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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Corvette / August 2005

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'76 tuning/timing question

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daveo76 - 11 Aug 2005 06:11 GMT
I've got a '76 L-48, 4-spd, stock except for the exhaust.  The new
exhaust is a true dual setup, 2 1/2" with magnaflow mufflers.  I love
the performance and sound, but under deceleration and compression
braking I get those light backfires and pops (sounds like a ratty old
Ford with glasspacks) through the pipes.  Anything I can do to
eliminate those?  I've got the timing set at 8 degrees BTDC now, should
I play around with it either direction?  Any way to richen the idle
mixture a bit with a stock emissions Q-jet?  I've never checked the
compression on this motor, I suppose it could be a burned valve or
something and I just didn't notice it with the single exhaust.  It runs
pretty good otherwise, though.  

Dave
Dad - 11 Aug 2005 15:41 GMT
> I've got a '76 L-48, 4-spd, stock except for the exhaust.  The new
> exhaust is a true dual setup, 2 1/2" with magnaflow mufflers.  I love
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>
> Dave

Do you have an equalizer, (H), pipe on it?

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05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd

daveo76 - 12 Aug 2005 05:30 GMT
> > I've got a '76 L-48, 4-spd, stock except for the exhaust.  The new
> > exhaust is a true dual setup, 2 1/2" with magnaflow mufflers.  I love
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> 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
> 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd

No H-pipe, would that help?  The exhaust is from a catalog (labeled
"for off-road use only") so I'd have to get a shop to weld a pipe in.
Not sure most shops would do it since I'm missing the cat(s).  Any way
to compensate for the lack of an equalizer?
Dad - 12 Aug 2005 06:21 GMT
>> > I've got a '76 L-48, 4-spd, stock except for the exhaust.  The new
>> > exhaust is a true dual setup, 2 1/2" with magnaflow mufflers.  I love
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> Not sure most shops would do it since I'm missing the cat(s).  Any way
> to compensate for the lack of an equalizer?

Can't guarantee it would but my '98 C5 with the Corsa Indy mufflers had the
popping and a motorboat sound until I opened up the crossover pipe. The C6
is the same way but I haven't taken the time to open up the crossover on it
to say that it will do it every time. On the other side of the coin the '72
don't have the popping and it don't have a crossover. Of course it don't run
as hot as the later cars do. Sorry, not much help, you might have to fish
around a bit to see what works after you make sure it is tuned properly.

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05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd

Big Al - 12 Aug 2005 08:04 GMT
>>> > I've got a '76 L-48, 4-spd, stock except for the exhaust.  The new
>>> > exhaust is a true dual setup, 2 1/2" with magnaflow mufflers.  I love
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>>> >
>>> > Dave

My guess is an exhaust leak upstream around the manifolds. If air is drawn
in it will pop. Speaking of air, what did you do to the smog pump and AIR
system?

Al
BDragon - 12 Aug 2005 22:27 GMT
> > > I've got a '76 L-48, 4-spd, stock except for the exhaust.  The new
> > > exhaust is a true dual setup, 2 1/2" with magnaflow mufflers.  I love
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Not sure most shops would do it since I'm missing the cat(s).  Any way
> to compensate for the lack of an equalizer?

My '77 made noises like that.  It turned out to be the check valves in the
exhaust lines from the pump, but I doubt you have those in yours.
Nevermind.
BDragon - 12 Aug 2005 22:30 GMT
> > > I've got a '76 L-48, 4-spd, stock except for the exhaust.  The new
> > > exhaust is a true dual setup, 2 1/2" with magnaflow mufflers.  I love
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Not sure most shops would do it since I'm missing the cat(s).  Any way
> to compensate for the lack of an equalizer?

Wait, I had you mixed up.  You have the '76.  Take a look at the pump and
the lines that go down to your exhaust manifolds.  If one of the check
valves freezes up, it will cause the car to backfire for a while, until it
burns a hole in the line anyway.   There's a check valve on a line leading
to each manifold.
daveo76 - 13 Aug 2005 19:55 GMT
Actually, some non-Calif, L-48, 76's did not have smog pumps.  I'm one
of those lucky ones - so that's not the problem.  It does have EGR,
however.  I'll do some investigating about an exhaust leak.  When I was
putting on the exhaust system, I broke a stud in the right side exhaust
manifold so I had to remove it.  It's possible that there is a leak
now.  I did not use a gasket, (per stock and advice of a Corvette
shop).  Any good ways to check for leaks?  Should I use a gasket?
Thanks for the posts.

Dave
Bill Gander - 13 Aug 2005 23:25 GMT
My 75 L48 did this also. The car had 40k original miles when
we got it four years ago. Someone had removed the pump, the
cat converter, and it has true dual exhaust. I always
thought the popping on compression was caused by one of
those changes. But it ran great so I figured, what the heck.

But early this year, it backfired through the carb when it
was cold and ran really badly for a few miles afterward. It
turned out that it was the vacuum advance. It was locked
full advance. We got that fixed and the popping through the
exhaust on compression stopped (for a while). It started
popping again and this time, the distributor got fully
rebuilt. Problem has not come back.

Bill - 75 and 02 coupes.

> Actually, some non-Calif, L-48, 76's did not have smog
> pumps.  I'm one
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>
> Dave
daveo76 - 15 Aug 2005 05:20 GMT
My distributor is brand new and it made the same popping sounds with
the old one as well, so that's probably not it.  I still may try to
play around with the base timing a little bit, but I am wondering now
if it's an exhaust leak around the manifold.  Hope I don't have to take
it off since it was a bear the first time - A.C. compressor is in the
way.
 
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