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Secuirty Light Stays On

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AnytimeAnywhere - 20 Nov 2005 20:06 GMT
The security light on my '98 has recently started to stay on after I start
the engine.  What it does is come on after I have been driving a few miles.
What kind of problem would this indicate?  My alarm arms and disarms fine.

Thanks,

John
ZÿRiX - 22 Nov 2005 00:36 GMT
I would like to here an answer to this as I have the same problem...

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> The security light on my '98 has recently started to stay on after I start
> the engine.  What it does is come on after I have been driving a few
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> John
Dad - 22 Nov 2005 00:42 GMT
What code does it set?

>I would like to here an answer to this as I have the same problem...
>
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>> John
ZÿRiX - 22 Nov 2005 01:29 GMT
None for me It is just on...

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> What code does it set?
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>>> John
Key@Ya.Net - 22 Nov 2005 06:45 GMT
> None for me It is just on...

if its on ? it usually throws up a code.
there are so many things that can cause the security light
to come on..

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"Key"

>> What code does it set?
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>>>> John
sbright - 22 Nov 2005 12:24 GMT
Check to see if the resistor is "squished" on your key.  It may be ok to
start for a while but then if that's the case you'll be dealing with the
column lock bug.  Try using your other key and see what happens.

-Stan

>> None for me It is just on...
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>>>>> John
ZÿRiX - 22 Nov 2005 13:42 GMT
I have new keys but sometimes with any of my keys new and old I turn the key
and dash light go seat moves but it will not crank so I pull it out put it
in and try again and agin untill it starts and other time it starts the
first time no problem... My understanding this has been the nature of this
car for atleast 4 years... when the dealer did the column they said the the
tumbler was worn some but the electrical was good, They did not open up
housing they just ran test on the wires...

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Key@Ya.Net - 22 Nov 2005 16:42 GMT
>I have new keys but sometimes with any of my keys new and
>old I turn the key and dash light go seat moves but it will
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>electrical was good, They did not open up housing they just
>ran test on the wires...

if your tumblers were worn ?
the lock would probably not want to turn sometimes.
or you would have to jiggle your key.

try cleaning the contacts in your lock.
use WD-40.
do NOT use graphite..

my2¢
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ZÿRiX - 22 Nov 2005 17:59 GMT
I do have to jiggle it...
Thanks for the tip on WD-40

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>>I have new keys but sometimes with any of my keys new and old I turn the
>>key and dash light go seat moves but it will not crank so I pull it out
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> my2¢
Charles Spitzer - 22 Nov 2005 18:03 GMT
do NOT use wd-40. it isn't for locks. it is a water displacement material,
and the leftovers will gunk up locks.

>I do have to jiggle it...
> Thanks for the tip on WD-40
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>> my2¢
Key@Ya.Net - 22 Nov 2005 19:26 GMT
> do NOT use wd-40. it isn't for locks.

wrong !!!
it is great for cleaning out locks.

> it is a water displacement material,

correct...

> and the leftovers will gunk up locks.

wrong again,
wd washes itself with every use.

been using it all my life and for the lsat 24+ years
as a Locksmith....
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Key@Ya.Net - 22 Nov 2005 19:21 GMT
>I do have to jiggle it...
> Thanks for the tip on WD-40

the cause of the jiggle is either your key, lock or a little
of both.

I would first try and have your key cut back to factory
specs.
(just a plane ole cheap mechanical key will do)
you will then have a key with NO ware, just like when it was
new.
(all ya want to see is if it helps eliminate the jiggle)
I would say 90% of the time,
re-cutting the key back to specs will solve the jiggle
problem.

remember, the wd-40 will not help the jiggle :-)
but it will clean out your lock..

happy holidays
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>>>I have new keys but sometimes with any of my keys new and
>>>old I turn the key and dash light go seat moves but it
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>> my2¢
sbright - 23 Nov 2005 11:50 GMT
If that's the case you kind of know your answer... I had a similar problem
in a New York parking garage. They put a gizmo onto your key which
compressed the resistor.  The dash would light up, but the car wouldn't
crank.  After being stuck there for 8 hours, a locksmith came out and cut me
a new key for $110 on the spot.  Car fired up just fine.  Sounds to me like
your problem is in the resistor being read by the car.  I just had a key cut
at the dealer for $40 (using my VIN not the old key).  I'd try that first.
Then replace the tumbler if it's worn out.  Seems hard to believe though.  I
have roughly 80,000mi on each of my cars and the tumblers work fine.

-Stan

>I have new keys but sometimes with any of my keys new and old I turn the
>key and dash light go seat moves but it will not crank so I pull it out put
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>tumbler was worn some but the electrical was good, They did not open up
>housing they just ran test on the wires...
ZÿRiX - 23 Nov 2005 13:39 GMT
I have over 100,000 miles on mine but I think I will go have a key cut by
the dealer because when I got the car they only had one key and it was the
original one very worn so I had 2 more made but they where cut from that key
so I'll try the dealer...

Thanx

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> If that's the case you kind of know your answer... I had a similar problem
> in a New York parking garage. They put a gizmo onto your key which
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>>the the tumbler was worn some but the electrical was good, They did not
>>open up housing they just ran test on the wires...
PJ - 23 Nov 2005 18:27 GMT
> I have over 100,000 miles on mine but I think I will go have a key cut by
> the dealer because when I got the car they only had one key and it was the
> original one very worn so I had 2 more made but they where cut from that key
> so I'll try the dealer...
>
> Thanx

Another option that might be more reasonable is having a master
locksmith cut a "key to code."  Rather then make a copy of your key, the
locksmith will measure the depth of each notch in your key, determine
what the original depth was for each pin position, then cut a new key
that will match the original. Like a key-to-code from the dealer this
will slow down tumbler wear in the lock.    ... PJ
Key@Ya.Net - 23 Nov 2005 18:52 GMT
>I have over 100,000 miles on mine but I think I will go
>have a key cut by the dealer because when I got the car
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> Thanx

Dealer can only help you if the code is available.
if its not ?
go to your local locksmith. He can read your key and cut it
back to specs.
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RicSeyler - 23 Nov 2005 22:50 GMT
"Key wrote:

>Dealer can only help you if the code is available.
>if its not ?
>go to your local locksmith. He can read your key and cut it
>back to specs.

How would he know what the original specs were? By measure how far the
tumblers
inside the lock cylinder move before bottoming out or something of the such?

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Key@Ya.Net - 24 Nov 2005 06:52 GMT
> "Key wrote:
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> inside the lock cylinder move before bottoming out or
> something of the such?

the locksmith should be able to just look at the bitting
(cut-depths)
on the old key and read the correct factory bitting.
then, with the assistance of a code cutter,
transfer the correct factory bitting to a new key blank.

g'day
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RicSeyler - 24 Nov 2005 21:04 GMT
Interesting stuff!

"Key wrote:

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'Key - 25 Nov 2005 03:36 GMT
> Interesting stuff!

more interesting is that a good locksmith can look at the
old key,
hand file a key to the correct bitting without the use of a
code cutter
and do it without measuring anything.
the skill comes with many years of making keys..

g'day
--
"Key"

> "Key wrote:
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>>--
>>why ya think they call me "Key" ?
PJ - 24 Nov 2005 20:40 GMT
> "Key wrote:
>
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> tumblers
> inside the lock cylinder move before bottoming out or something of the such?

The the big problem with copying a key is that slight errors in the copy
machine (or operator error in seating the "originaL" key) cause the
notches in the key to be a couple of 1000s of an inch in error.  Ditto
the effect of wear--particularly for the shallower notches.  This gets
worse at places like KMart, or Home Depot.

To make a "key-to-code" my locksmith measures each notch and, knowing
what the depth should be for each of the 10 or so different notch
depths, picks the closest notch value for each pin position.  He then
uses a "nipper" sort of tool to cut notches in a new blank to the
precise depth.  He then smooths the transitions between each notch.
This is as precise as an original key from the factory.

I once had a copy made from a copy that was so far in error that it
wouldn't always work and was probably chewing up the pins inside the
lock.  The key to code wouldn't work at all.  Locksmith tnen adjusted
one notch depth and cut another key -- worked perfectly.

Key can probably explain this with fewer words as I don't know the
vocabulary to describe each of the above items.

PJ
'Key - 25 Nov 2005 03:31 GMT
>> "Key wrote:
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> notch. This is as precise as an original key from the
> factory.

a good locksmith shouldn't have to measure anything.
should be able to just do tell the bitting just by looking
at the key..

my2¢
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PJ - 25 Nov 2005 05:32 GMT
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> my2¢
Hmmm,
    Maybe you've hit on something.  I think I'm probably paying for
some "showmanship."  $$$$$  HEHEHE  $$$$$

PJ
'Key - 25 Nov 2005 18:37 GMT
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> PJ

probably not.
many locksmiths do have to have the assistance of machines
and measuring equipment.
either way, its not "showmanship."
it takes many years of training and experience to  master
any profession.
it also takes major investment $$$$$'s
in training, tools & equipment, insurance, parts, licensing
etc...

g'day to ya
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AnytimeAnywhere - 23 Nov 2005 01:20 GMT
No code is displayed.  Also, the security light hasn't come on since.

> What code does it set?
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> >> John
-->Jonathan! - 09 Dec 2005 05:02 GMT
(not sure if it has all ready been answered.. and too lazy to check.. :P)

But there is some feature.. I believe its like securelock.. or
passlock.. or something. i dont remember off the top of my head.. but it
is having problems..

> The security light on my '98 has recently started to stay on after I start
> the engine.  What it does is come on after I have been driving a few miles.
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>
> John

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-->Jonathan!

 
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