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The American people are barbarian.  Signature<|[;o))METIS >The American people are barbarian. I don't think so because he was living for 25 years on death row with multiple chances to reverse his fate. It just sets an example that murder will not be tolerated to Tookie and others. If it doesn't, it should. Now if you said we are imperialistic, I'd have to agree sadly. Totally off topic but here is my opinion (not that anybody wants it) but if you are convicted of murder you should be put of death row for 1 year and if you have been unable to prove your innocence you should be put to death in the same manner as the person you killed on that 1 year anniversary, now if you killed multiple people you should be killed in the same manner as the worst case, as for child molesters they should be tortured until the only thing left is death, And last but not least if you admit to it or there is absolutely NO doubt in the case you should be put to death the same day as your conviction. Stop wasting our tax payers money on housing and feeding these killers.. And that's just my opinion.. Opinion are like a.sholes we all have 1....... SignatureZÿRiX (<>..<>) > The American people are barbarian. If we were true barbarians as you think, his body would be served as burgers in every McDonalds in the Crips territory. Pictures of his victims would be tattooed on every Crips members forehead and they would be neutered. That's the easy part, if any of them were caught breaking a law we would get really nasty and send them to France. Thankfully most of this kind of trash is still in France where it belongs, jerk! SignatureIMPORTANT: This email is intended for the use of the individual addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is confidential privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons with low self-esteem, no sense of humor or irrational religious beliefs. If you are not the intended recipient any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is not authorized (either explicitly or implicitly) and constitutes an irritating social faux pas. Unless the word absquatulation has been used in its correct context somewhere other than in this warning, it does not have any legal or grammatical use and may be ignored. No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the kelpie next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you. >> The American people are barbarian. > If we were true barbarians as you think, his body > would be served as burgers in every McDonalds in the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > them were caught breaking a law we would get really > nasty and send them to France. "Drawing and quartering is another punishment mentioned in kids' movies only because nobody realizes what's involved. The statutory punishment for treason in England from 1283 to 1867, D&Q was a multimedia form of execution. First the prisoner was drawn to the place of execution on a hurdle, a type of sledge. (Originally he was merely dragged behind a horse.) Then he was hanged. Cut down while still alive, he was disemboweled and his entrails burned before his eyes. (Some references, such as the Encyclopedia Britannica, say this step, and not dragging behind a horse, is what is meant by "drawn," but actual sentences of execution don't support this view.) "Finally the condemned was beheaded and his body cut into quarters, one arm or leg to a quarter. How exactly the quartering was to be accomplished was not always specified, but on at least some occasions horses were hitched to each of the victim's limbs and spurred in four directions. An assistant with a sword or cleaver was sometimes assigned to make a starter cut and ease the strain on the animals." Now that's barbaric! -Tip Re: "Thankfully most of this kind of trash is still in France where it belongs, jerk! " HAHAHAHA well said dad ! i wonder how 'MadHat' would feel if that bastard blew his family away at a 7/11 Now fellers, that is just as bad as the OP's statement. :-) Not all Frenchies are "Frenchies"! Chariac(sp) doesn't speak for all French people, no more than Bushie speaks for all of us....... >Re: "Thankfully most of this kind of trash is still in France where it >belongs, jerk! " [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove –SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson > Now fellers, that is just as bad as the OP's statement. :-) > Not all Frenchies are "Frenchies"! Chariac(sp) doesn't speak for > all French people, no more than Bushie speaks for all of us....... One of the few things I agree with you on, but I think you're sucking up hoping it will influence some young French chick. Although I doubt they are that desperate, then again maybe you can find one that's blind. I'm more than sure you having a C4 Corvette won't impress anyone that has a Vespa. ;-p > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >One of the few things I agree with you on, but I think you're sucking >up hoping it will influence some young French chick. Man.............. you know me too dang well!! LOLOLOL >Although I doubt >they are that desperate, then again maybe you can find one that's >blind. > >I'm more than sure you having a C4 Corvette won't impress anyone that >has a Vespa. ;-p LOL No more than your "Lil Rascal" with the optional basket, streamers & bike bell. hehehehe > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson Dad wrote: "RicSeyler" <ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net> wrote in message news:mrFnf.78591$Y82.7782@bignews4.bellsouth.net... Now fellers, that is just as bad as the OP's statement. :-) Not all Frenchies are "Frenchies"! Chariac(sp) doesn't speak for all French people, no more than Bushie speaks for all of us....... One of the few things I agree with you on, but I think you're sucking up hoping it will influence some young French chick. Man.............. you know me too dang well!! LOLOLOL Although I doubt they are that desperate, then again maybe you can find one that's blind. I'm more than sure you having a C4 Corvette won't impress anyone that has a Vespa. ;-p LOL No more than your "Lil Rascal" with the optional basket, streamers & bike bell. hehehehe Those are for the Italian gals. No wait, those streamers are their arm pit hair. > Dad wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Those are for the Italian gals. No wait, those streamers are their arm pit > hair. LMAO!!! You two are sick puppies!!! Gotta love it! >>>Now fellers, that is just as bad as the OP's statement. >>>:-) [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > basket, streamers & > bike bell. hehehehe no pun intended but the use of "html" is not really the norm for any text only group. Signature"Key" > no pun intended > but > the use of "html" > is not really the norm for any text only group. I knew someone would find it his duty to make note of the rich text post. It is the 21st century of computing. Get in the curret times. Back in the good ol days, the only option was text. Now that people can post in and read various formats, why not ? if you can't read html or rich text, then either buy better software, get a different machine or get off the 'Net and leave it for the experienced users. Plain text is still prefered over that "useless" feature. Just because you can post that crap, doesn't mean you should. And since you did it knowing that would annoy folks makes you particularly sorry. >>no pun intended >>but [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > Plain text is still prefered over that "useless" feature. > Just because you can post that crap, doesn't mean you > should. And since you did it knowing that would annoy > folks makes you particularly sorry. correct... I don't think he understands that text groups are text groups for a reason. Signature"Key" >>>no pun intended >>>but [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> different machine or get off the 'Net and leave it for >> the experienced users. I don't do it to purposely annoy anyone. I post to several newsgroups with friends all over the world, that I've know and shared interests with for years. And on almost all of the groups there are photos, news stories, political stories, etc posted and of course me doctoring and editing pics of members unwise enough to have a pic of themselves on the web that can be found. LOLOLOL (I own a graphics/print shop) And I'm not changing my newsreader settings each time I post to a different group, just to comply with some very very arcane formality for single person here that get upset for some reason over a measly couple Bytes. It's silly and if a person gets upset over that in the world of trolls, malicious viruses, spyware..... well...... I'd feel honored to be killfiled by 'em. > Plain text is still prefered over that "useless" feature. Just because > you can post that crap, doesn't mean you should. And since you did it > knowing that would annoy folks makes you particularly sorry. SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove –SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson Signature"Key" >I don't do it to purposely annoy anyone. > I post to several newsgroups with friends all over [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > stories, > political stories, etc if its allowed ? those are binarie or picture groups. not text only groups. > And I'm not changing my newsreader settings each time I > post [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a > measly couple Bytes. a "measly couple bytes" has absolutly nothing to do it. doesn't matter how you feel or how lazy your are to not change your newsreader settings. text groups are text groups. > It's silly and if a person gets upset over that > in the world of trolls, malicious viruses, spyware..... > well...... > I'd feel honored to be killfiled by 'em. "honored" ? spoken like a true troll.. -- "Key" >> Plain text is still prefered over that "useless" feature. >> Just because you can post that crap, doesn't mean you >> should. And since you did it knowing that would annoy >> folks makes you particularly sorry. Personally, I agree with Ric here. I believe there is validity to not posting pictures in a group that isn't a binary group, but HTML is not the same. HTML is just newer technology that allows pictures and links to be posted easier. I think it should be changed, it's much easier when you can insert a clickable link. SignatureCharlie !993 Corvette Convertible "Key" >I don't do it to purposely annoy anyone. > I post to several newsgroups with friends all over > the world, that I've know and shared interests with for years. > And on almost all of the groups there are photos, news stories, > political stories, etc if its allowed ? those are binarie or picture groups. not text only groups. > And I'm not changing my newsreader settings each time I post > to a different group, just to comply with some very very arcane formality > for single person here that get upset for some reason over a > measly couple Bytes. a "measly couple bytes" has absolutly nothing to do it. doesn't matter how you feel or how lazy your are to not change your newsreader settings. text groups are text groups. > It's silly and if a person gets upset over that > in the world of trolls, malicious viruses, spyware..... well...... > I'd feel honored to be killfiled by 'em. "honored" ? spoken like a true troll.. -- "Key" > Bob I wrote: > >> Plain text is still prefered over that "useless" feature. Just because >> you can post that crap, doesn't mean you should. And since you did it >> knowing that would annoy folks makes you particularly sorry. > Personally, I agree with Ric here. I believe there is > validity to not posting pictures in a group that isn't a > binary group, but HTML is not the same. HTML is just > newer technology that allows pictures and links to be > posted easier. I can see his and your point to an extent. however, the fact still remains that has not been changed in the charters to date. > I think it should be changed, it's much easier when you > can insert a clickable link. you can still insert a clickable link in plain text. Signature"Key" ---snip--- > Personally, I agree with Ric here. I believe there is validity to not > posting pictures in a group that isn't a binary group, but HTML is not the > same. HTML is just newer technology that allows pictures and links to be > posted easier. I think it should be changed, it's much easier when you can > insert a clickable link. HTML isn't needed to post a 'clickable link.' Modern newsreaders see the text string, detect the http protocol, highlight it and provide the association to the default web browser. No HTML needed or really desired. That said, I will admit that it's a bit clumsy always posting a foto to a web page and then linking to it. Aside from the occasional dial-up user, the real rationale in keeping NNTP as a text-predominant service is to preserve newsserver bandwidth and keep the costs of the service low (on a dollar per group offered basis). This gives the world a wide variety of available groups and topics. Cox is probably typical with 55,000 newsgroups to choose from. If we start sapping bandwidth with lots of pics, providers will seek to contain costs by doing things we might not like. OTOH, my old newsreader dates back to era when Lynx was the hottest web browser. Signature…PJ ’89 HookerCar, ’02 E-blu 6-spd Coupe That's cool 'Key.... <shrugs shoulders> I don't try to be a troll, buy hey whatever floats your boat, man. My point is if you killfile me you won't have to be bothered by my posts and one thing less you have disrupting you life........ SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove –SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson > That's cool 'Key.... <shrugs shoulders> > I don't try to be a troll, buy hey whatever floats your [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > my posts and one thing less you have disrupting you > life........ I didn't say you were a troll. just that you are acting like a troll. if I kill-file you or not, doesn't apply. the fact remains that html is not for text-only groups. Signature"Key" if its allowed ? those are binarie or picture groups. not text only groups. Many of the groups are chartered as "text groups" but we regular gang of posters have no problem with attachments as long at the posters are experienced with JPG Compression and pixel sizing. I can get a 300 pixel color graphic down to around 10-14k. And we keep the size down so the dialup guys aren't waiting and waiting for them to load. And I confess we gripe at people who reply with the pics still attached and don't trim unnecessary fat. That keeps the groups speedy for the dialup guys that it actually affects in a real way, not just an etiquette way. And I do try to be courteous to others, on the net and in real life... It does bother me to make others upset. That's why I don't do pics on here, and believe me Dad and the rest of us regular gang here are prime subjects and really need a few! hehehehe But literally a couple bytes..... That just comes off as a critique to me not an actual valid real world inconvenience. a "measly couple bytes" has absolutely nothing to do it. doesn't matter how you feel or how lazy your are to not change your newsreader settings. text groups are text groups. It's not a Lazy thing, it's a genuine real big hassle to change server settings each time you post to a different group, for just a spare byte here and there... "honored" ? spoken like a true troll.. But seriously 'Key, I don't want you come off to you as a common Troll. I don't like trolls either, and I do have a conscious. And I think there is something to Karma and what a person does and how a person treats others. SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson > ---snip--- I do understand your view point Ric. I wasn't griping about the few bytes you posted, just making a point about posting html on text only groups. try and go to one of the harley text only groups and post in html and you will see what I am talking about. we can agree that we don't agree, however, that doesn't change the fact that if a group is chartered as a text only group. html is not permitted. nuff said g'day Signature"Key" > no pun intended > but > the use of "html" > is not really the norm for any text only group. I knew someone would find it his duty to make note of the rich text post. It is the 21st century of computing. Get in the curret times. Back in the good ol days, the only option was text. Now that people can post in and read various formats, why not ? if you can't read html or rich text, then either buy better software, get a different machine or get off the 'Net and leave it for the experienced users. ============= Well Dave, its not me that needs to, as you say, "get in the curret times". text groups are text groups for a reason. A posting in a discussion group or mail should be text/plain, not multipart/alternative, not text/html, or anything else (and certainly not application/binary with a filename ending in .doc). While Usenet seems to have repulsed this attack, it is still going on in Email. Why is this a mistake? Many people use software and/or hardware that cannot display HTML and other junk formats in the way you envisioned. Now you may think that multipart/alternative with one alternative being text/plain may be the way to go. But if you can express the idea you want to convey in text/plain, why provide the alternative format? Also, with HTML, the problem is: Which HTML? If you want HTML, you certainly also want several of the latest plug-ins; but even if you have enough sense to stick with HTML 2.0, the next guy certainly will have other ideas and will produce messages that your browser won't display as intended. Also, these other formats often take many times the space (and, consequently, bandwidth) of plain text, leading to increased costs for mail and news servers, and shorter expiration times for news servers (mail servers that expire the mail also may be affected). For these reasons, posting in HTML or any format other than plain text is generally frowned upon, and is banned under many group Charters. above referenced from: http://tinyurl.com/9tjxk Signature"Key" Consider what era were these "charters" adopted??? >For these reasons, posting in HTML or any format other than >plain text is generally frowned upon, and is banned under [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove –SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson > Consider what era were these "charters" adopted??? doesn't apply... the charters are adopted for a reason. bottom line, if you don't see "binaries" in the group title. its a text only group. Signature"Key" >>For these reasons, posting in HTML or any format other >>than plain text is generally frowned upon, and is banned >>under many group Charters. >> >>above referenced from: >>http://tinyurl.com/9tjxk The era they were adopted doesn't apply?? PFFFFFFTTTTT There is a reason there aren't horse tie rails in front of any mall or civic center......... technology evolves.. > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson > The era they were adopted doesn't apply?? > PFFFFFFTTTTT > There is a reason there aren't horse tie rails in front > of any mall or civic center......... technology evolves.. thats where you're wrong. it still applies... Signature"Key" ---snip--- LOL 'Key baby, ya gotta get past the 1990's....... You keep calling me on this about every couple weeks or so.... A couple K of code can't be that valuable to ya, can it? I'll repost my last reply... guess I'll keep it in a draft folder for future use... Still Love Ya Though!!! :-) ______________________________________________________ 12/1/05 In 1993.......... sure. This is the 21st century... Even thought we don't have flying cars and meals in pill form or virtual reality sex partners we thought we would have, there is an overwhelming abundance of News Readers that show HTML. And even the lamest of dialup accounts are fast enough to read HTML formatted text without waiting too long for the 4 to 6k of HTML code. And I don't think there is an ISP outside of rural China that still charges by the byte.... >no pun intended >but >the use of "html" >is not really the norm for any text only group. > > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson Besides that you're a top poster, will you ever learn??? Finally! Proof of global warming! LOL 'Key baby, ya gotta get past the 1990's....... You keep calling me on this about every couple weeks or so.... A couple K of code can't be that valuable to ya, can it? I'll repost my last reply... guess I'll keep it in a draft folder for future use... Still Love Ya Though!!! :-) ______________________________________________________ 12/1/05 In 1993.......... sure. This is the 21st century... Even thought we don't have flying cars and meals in pill form or virtual reality sex partners we thought we would have, there is an overwhelming abundance of News Readers that show HTML. And even the lamest of dialup accounts are fast enough to read HTML formatted text without waiting too long for the 4 to 6k of HTML code. And I don't think there is an ISP outside of rural China that still charges by the byte.... 'Key wrote: no pun intended but the use of "html" is not really the norm for any text only group. SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson LOLOLOL And you didn't trim the fat from your reply..... shame shame shame... :-) > Besides that you're a top poster, will you ever learn??? > > Finally! Proof of global warming! SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson > LOL > 'Key baby, ya gotta get past the 1990's....... > You keep calling me on this about every couple weeks or > so.... > A couple K of code can't be that valuable to ya, can it? thats not my point. I have the resources on hand to handle just about type file. see my responce to Dave. news:YJ4of.71$g_6.58@tornado.texas.rr.com -- "Key" ---snip to trim--- > Re: "Thankfully most of this kind of trash is still in > France where it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > family away > at a 7/11 what goes around sure did come back around ! oh its true !!! Signature"Key" >> The American people are barbarian. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Thankfully most of this kind of trash is still in France where it >belongs, jerk! Maybe he was basing our barbarianism on Tookie's actions... -- lab~rat >:-) Do you want polite or do you want sincere? LOLOLOL >Maybe he was basing our barbarianism on Tookie's actions... >-- >lab~rat >:-) >Do you want polite or do you want sincere? > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove –SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson > The American people are barbarian. Tookie Williams is a barbarian. Tookie Williams took the lives of 4 innocent, law-abiding American citizens for no other reason than he got off on it. Tookie Williams is the kind of disease that the human race doesn't need. His own sick pleasure was the only reason. I used to live in a "peace, love and happiness" love everybody haze. But I've grown and I've decided that there are just some people on this planet who contribute nothing of value, do nothing but take, and sometimes murder others because their minds are patently defective. They are a cancer on this Earth and take sick pride in that fact. If Tookie Williams had killed someone in defense of his family or home, I'd think twice. He didn't. He cold bloodedly murdered innocent people and was convicted of the crime in a court of law by a jury of his peers. For that, I believe he should pay the ultimate price. We are all better off without people like him breathing our oxygen. Go post his drivel in alt.autos.renault, Pierre. "METIS" <metis15@wawadoogoo.fr> wrote OT in message ---snip the OT crap--- what's this have to do with vettes ? take your off-topic crap to private email or a group where it will be on-topic. Signature"Key" It's not as simple as that....... I hear what you are saying, but it's over simplistic and myopic statement in regards to Williams. There are more layers than an onion to the Williams situation.. > The American people are barbarian. SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson >The American people are barbarian. Just to add to my last post, I might have also agreed with you, had you said that SOME Corvette people in this newsgroup have an attitude problem. They do. Otherwise, I hate your French government since WWII and they can go where the sun doesn't shine. I wonder if you would feel that way if your sister, mother and father and been THREE of the FOUR people he killed? How many people has his gang killed? The only thing barbaric about his death was it took 30 years to late. a.shole! Greg >The American people are barbarian. The French are pussy faggots, and you would be a German if it weren't for the Americans. Bunch of cocksucking wimp-a.s winos Frogs. >The American people are barbarian. > The French are pussy faggots, and you would be a German if it weren't > for the Americans. > > Bunch of cocksucking wimp-a.s winos Frogs. > >>The American people are barbarian. Those are certainly all valid points. The French will forever be known as cowards in the eyes of the world. "Yahoo" <want.2.b.anon@gmail.com> wrote in message ---snip--- you could have made your point without all the cursing. Signature"Key" f#cking french faggot.. shut up and go away. tookie killed. tookie died for it > The American people are barbarian. > The American people are barbarian. Yep....45 million babies KILLED since 1973. Funny how the Religious Right are all for the Death Penalty but pass moral judgment on pro-choice/abortion issues... <rolls eyes> > > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson Hey, Tookie was a babe at one time maybe that's what he's saying. Oh no, we were all babies at one time. What will we do, what will we do? I know, lets all go drive our Corvettes over a few more of the current breeding stock. 1,406,250 abortions a year and we have a birth rate of 4,000,000, 1 in every three pregnancies aborted. Ok I give up, Tookie was right to wait until they were a bigger target and then shoot them in the back twice with a shotgun. Funny how the Religious Right are all for the Death Penalty but pass moral judgment on pro-choice/abortion issues... <rolls eyes> Mike wrote: "METIS" <metis15@wawadoogoo.fr> wrote in message news:mn.69f17d5cd93ac052.45464@wawadoogoo.fr > Hey, Tookie was a babe at one time maybe that's what he's saying. Oh no, > we were all babies at one time. What will we do, what will we do? I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Ok I give up, Tookie was right to wait until they were a bigger target > and then shoot them in the back twice with a shotgun. > Funny how the Religious Right are all for the Death Penalty > but pass moral judgment on pro-choice/abortion issues... > <rolls eyes> Right. Funny how the atheist left is in favor of aborting those 1,406,250 absolute innocents a year, but can't stand to pass morale judgement on a few dozens of proven really bad people and make them pay the ultimate penalty for their heinous crimes... <rolls eyes> Which side was it that's passing moral judgements, again? Heck, I'd even be willing to compromise: let's give all the bad guys a life sentence breaking rocks in a prison quarry (no parole and a limit of two appeals), in return for outlawing abortions in the US (no exceptions except to save life of mother, that necessity certified by a panel of doctors & jurists). (no > exceptions except to save life of mother, that necessity certified by a > panel of doctors & jurists). not that I agree or disagree with anything you have suggested butt.............. there ya go .... adding stipulations to laws. If the mother is in danger, it must be in the natural order of things . You either make the rule in stone or you add your stipulations and everyone else can add theirs Let it be written, let it be done kickstart > (no > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > kickstart Well, ...yeah, but... every law has stipulations. In this case the stipulation was meant to save a life, not to end one, and I guess I was trying to allow the people involved to make the choice of which of the two dies, while verifying that choice is a bonified necessity. I'm willing to drop the stipulation if that'll make you feel better. But by men though?............. Just seems wrong to me. >(no > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson The way I feel about abortion is.... I'm not a woman, so I'll never be put in that circumstance. I feel it should be settled among women, I just don't think we men have any right to say either way.. The the majority of women rule on that. It's not up to me to say. And I'm for the death penalty, but I feel it needs stronger restrictions on who (mental faculties) can be executed and for what reasons (specific crimes and how they were committed). >(no > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson > The way I feel about abortion is.... > I'm not a woman, so I'll never be put in that circumstance. > I feel it should be settled among women, I just don't think > we men have any right to say either way.. The the majority > of women rule on that. It's not up to me to say. Ric, I have been in this group for many, many years and that has to be the lamest comment you have every made. That is a total and complete copout on your part and frankly, I am surprised and disappointed in you. To say things like "I feel it should be settled among women" and "I just don't think we men have any right to say either way." and "It's not up to me to say." are all copouts Ric. It's like saying that woman can't have an opinion on mens' issues. Issues like men causing injury to men. Of course they can have an opinion on mens' issues and should have opinions on mens' issues. Where is your backbone man? Are you really so pussywhipped? Additionally, you would have us believe that a woman is the only one affected by an abortion. What about the spouse/boyfriend? What about the aborted child? Who speaks for the child? I wish that life were as simple as you'd like it to be Ric. What a copout! > And I'm for the death penalty, but I feel it needs stronger > restrictions on who (mental faculties) can be executed > and for what reasons (specific crimes and how they > were committed). It could be argued that abortion is the death penalty for the crime of being conceived. (Wow! That was profound!) Do you support conception Ric? > -------------------------------------- > "Ric no function beer well with." > - Peter Daly >> The way I feel about abortion is.... >> I'm not a woman, so I'll never be put in that circumstance. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > should have opinions on mens' issues. Where is your backbone man? Are > you really so pussywhipped? It's just how I feel about it. <shrugs shoulders> And it's not as simplistic as a Mens or Women's "Issue". It's ones own personal body and what a government can tell you to do with it, and on the other side, a potential life. That's more than an "Issue". And I see both sides to it, and why both sides are so fervent about it. > Additionally, you would have us believe that a woman is the only one > affected by an abortion. What about the spouse/boyfriend? What about > the aborted child? Who speaks for the child? I wish that life were as > simple as you'd like it to be Ric. What a copout! Again <shrugs shoulders> I don't bear children so whether it legal to not to choose to bear a child to me isn't my call. That's how I feel. Percieved as a cop out or not. I don't cow down to name callers either, there is "backbone" to that also.... Just curious, are you pro death penalty? >> And I'm for the death penalty, but I feel it needs stronger >> restrictions on who (mental faculties) can be executed [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> "Ric no function beer well with." >> - Peter Daly SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove –SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson The way I feel about abortion is.... I'm not a woman, so I'll never be put in that circumstance. I feel it should be settled among women, I just don't think we men have any right to say either way.. The the majority of women rule on that. It's not up to me to say. And I'm for the death penalty, but I feel it needs stronger restrictions on who (mentally faculties) can be executed and for what reasons (specific crimes and how they were committed). >> Hey, Tookie was a babe at one time maybe that's what he's saying. Oh >> no, we were all babies at one time. What will we do, what will we do? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> Ok I give up, Tookie was right to wait until they were a bigger >> target and then shoot them in the back twice with a shotgun. SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove –SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson Tookie was a lieing thieving murderer that made that so called life acceptable to other impressionable dumb sh.ts around the country I hope that bastard burns in hell and the idiot sort of actors esad!!!!!!!!!!1 > The American people are barbarian. Twas the night before Christmas and all through San Quentin, the crips were protesting, and liberals were ventin'. The cyanide hung by the chamber wth care, in hopes that the reaper soon would be there. The inmates were nestled all snug in their bed; except for Old Tookie, who soon would be dead. And me with my beer mug, dressed warm in my flannell, had curled up to watch it, on the Fox News Channel. I set up my TIVO to record the news station, and thoroughly loved the momentous occasion. It seemed lady justice had gotten her way, and that there would be one less savage today. When outside the jail there arose such a clatter, the cameras had turned to see what was the matter. When what to my civilized eyes did appear, but a lineup of actors, all liberal, half queer. The misguided freaks drew some curious looks, as they proclaimed his innocence; clutching his books. The tears then flew out from Sarandon's eyes, as she nominated him again for the Nobel Peace Prize. The actors were tethered to an ACLU sleigh, all towing the line of the urban decay. On Asner, on Penn, on liberal cop-haters, On Sharpton, on Jesse and other race-baiters. Then at 2:01 all curled up like a beetle, Tookie cried like a bitch as they gave him the needle. When up from the actors there arose such a cry, they had failed in their mission, and Tookie DID DIE !! I heard Bill O'Reilly say, as I turned out my light, Merry Christmas to all ... there was justice tonight !! > The American people are barbarian. |
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