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Serpenting Belt Noise

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Steve Horrillo - 21 Dec 2005 08:58 GMT
My '98 C-5 just had the A/C compressor replaced. Now the belt squeaks. They
replaced the tensioner a few months ago and the sqeaking stopped but has
returned since the compressor was replaced. The dealer said it needs a new
belt, (not that it's ready to break) just to stop the noise BUT won't
guarantee that it will fix the problem.

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sbright - 21 Dec 2005 14:12 GMT
That's the first place to start.. luckily there arent too many pulleys that
the A/C belt goes around (I think 3 crank, a/c compressor, and the
tensioner).  The belts make a small indentation in the pulleys where they
like to sit which could be the cause of the squeek.  You'll need patience
and a stethoscope to try to isolate where it's coming from if you dont want
to replace a bizzillion pulleys in your car.  Does it sqeek all the time or
when it's cold?  or when you give it gas?  Could the belt be loose?  Also
look at the belts and see if there is wear on either of the edges or on the
top of it.

-Stan

> My '98 C-5 just had the A/C compressor replaced. Now the belt squeaks.
> They
> replaced the tensioner a few months ago and the sqeaking stopped but has
> returned since the compressor was replaced. The dealer said it needs a new
> belt, (not that it's ready to break) just to stop the noise BUT won't
> guarantee that it will fix the problem.
PJ - 21 Dec 2005 15:53 GMT
> That's the first place to start.. luckily there arent too many pulleys that
> the A/C belt goes around (I think 3 crank, a/c compressor, and the
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>>belt, (not that it's ready to break) just to stop the noise BUT won't
>>guarantee that it will fix the problem.

I'm wondering if this is a misaligned tensioner or a/c compressor?

Back in the dark ages of 'vee' belts we used to attack a squeak by
applying a little parafin or lubriplate to the edge of the belt.
Probably not the best ploy with a serpentine but it might provide a clue
as to which edge is rubbing.

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Steve Horrillo - 22 Dec 2005 08:37 GMT
> That's the first place to start.. luckily there arent too many pulleys
> that
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>
> -Stan

Thanks' for the reply,

Now it squeaks all the time. When I'm in traffic I can only hear it if I'm
next to another car and the sound echos off the other car. The rpm's do seem
to alter the pitch of the sound. The belts don't look too bad but I'm at
97,000 miles.

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RicSeyler - 21 Dec 2005 18:38 GMT
Sometimes those serpentine belts just squeak with no obvious visual
indicators.....
Crappy answer huh? LOLOL
But it's true. :-)
Might have to just buy one and see.
<shrugs shoulders>

>My '98 C-5 just had the A/C compressor replaced. Now the belt squeaks. They
>replaced the tensioner a few months ago and the sqeaking stopped but has
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>
>  

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Steve Horrillo - 22 Dec 2005 08:49 GMT
Every time I get my car serviced at a dealer something else seems to go
wrong soon after. When I take the car back they alway find something
unrelated wrong then charge a over-priced charge to get it fixed. If I
treaten to take it somewhere else the service writer politely informs me
that to get my car back I'll have to pay diagnostic/teardown/rebuild costs.
In Florida is there anything I can do to prevent the dealer from holding me
up for these costs... other than to never take it to a dealer that is :)

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RicSeyler - 22 Dec 2005 16:18 GMT
Yes there is an arbitration board for auto repairs, see if you can
Google it.
And there are arbitration boards for everything that has property liens
involved,
like construction, etc.
This is not uncommon with the slash and burn tactics seen by more than a few
dealers and garages. Kill 'em all on the first visit and let God sort
'em out. LOLOL

Plus and other option would be to pay for the D/T/R with noted on the check
that you are paying under duress and have it also noted on the repair order,
write down all conversations and make a timeline and take them to small
claims
court..... If they see you preparing your self, (check notes and repair
order notes)
many many times they will cave before you actually end up in front of a
judge.
And even if you do end up in front of a Judge, chances are he has had to
deal
with unscrupulous dealers over their lifetime and will give you a very
fair shot.

>Every time I get my car serviced at a dealer something else seems to go
>wrong soon after. When I take the car back they alway find something
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>
>  

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'Key - 22 Dec 2005 20:27 GMT
> Every time I get my car serviced at a dealer something
> else seems to go
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> up for these costs... other than to never take it to a
> dealer that is :)

if you're unhappy with a dealer ?
take it up with GM.
http://www.gm.com/gmcomjsp/contactus/
at this time,
GM is very customer oriented.

happy holidays
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grayfox - 23 Dec 2005 00:18 GMT
Try to avoid the dealer at all costs...............in Palm Coast, Florida
try DOYLE AUTOMOTIVE...very honest very good mechanics..fair book
price....dealer estimated $1200 to fix my Cadillac Air ...Doyle found the
problem and charged me $89.00 for labor and a new ground wire..
Keter Pardes - 23 Dec 2005 00:32 GMT
On 22-Dec-2005, "grayfox" <grayfox24@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Try to avoid the dealer at all costs...............in Palm Coast, Florida
> try DOYLE AUTOMOTIVE...very honest very good mechanics..fair book
> price....dealer estimated $1200 to fix my Cadillac Air ...Doyle found the
> problem and charged me $89.00 for labor and a new ground wire..

My extended warranty's underwriter went bust so I'm on my own now. Thnks for
the reply.

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Keter Pardes - 23 Dec 2005 00:36 GMT
On 22-Dec-2005, "grayfox" <grayfox24@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Try to avoid the dealer at all costs...............in Palm Coast, Florida
> try DOYLE AUTOMOTIVE...very honest very good mechanics..fair book
> price....dealer estimated $1200 to fix my Cadillac Air ...Doyle found the
> problem and charged me $89.00 for labor and a new ground wire..

Why and how can the dealers get away with being so crooked. I SWEAR they
sabotage the car. It seems every time I bring it in something else goes
wrong. Often on the way home. My relative who was a chevy mechanic said h
never heard of sabotage but it happens way too often to be coincidance. I'm
considering mounting a couple of hidden cameras. :)

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sbright - 23 Dec 2005 13:28 GMT
How true..  The belts run about $20-25 if you want to do it yourself.  Of
course you could get your flashlight out, turn on the car and try to see if
you can see any of the pulleys woble.  Oh, also.. just thought of this..
(and I dont know if it applies since I havent really inspected the ac
compressor and its 30 degrees out) The pulley on my blower has different
offsets depending on which way you bolt it on.  If the ac pulley does the
same type of thing and it was put on back asswards then you'd have a 1/16in
variance and thereby get a squeel.  It would shred the edge of the belt
though probably.  Oh, and one more thing.. the a/c serp. belt sits behind
the main serp. belt.  We may all be talking about the a/c belt, when in fact
it's the other one squeeking since they would have prob. had it off to do
the a/c compressor.  Mechanics have a stethoscope that has an airtube
instead of the flat microphone thing your doc has.  If they want to.. (six
pack of beer..bottle of JD..etc) they can use it to get a real good idea of
where the squeek is.

-Stan

> Sometimes those serpentine belts just squeak with no obvious visual
> indicators.....
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>>belt, (not that it's ready to break) just to stop the noise BUT won't
>>guarantee that it will fix the problem.
Dave - 26 Dec 2005 04:27 GMT
Take both belts off and turn them around so they rotate in the other
direction. This may help. If not, new belts may be necessary.

Dave
WI

> My '98 C-5 just had the A/C compressor replaced. Now the belt squeaks. They
> replaced the tensioner a few months ago and the sqeaking stopped but has
> returned since the compressor was replaced. The dealer said it needs a new
> belt, (not that it's ready to break) just to stop the noise BUT won't
> guarantee that it will fix the problem.

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