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Help - battery discharge and noise, 99 C5

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charles - 29 Dec 2005 19:51 GMT
I'm hoping someone can help me and recognize what has failed on my 1999
Corvette.

No problems previously. I've had it parked in the garage for about a
week. When I went to start it the battery was dead. I plugged in a
charger and a clicking sound came from the front of the car, seemed
somewhere near the air filter. I couldn't find the source of the
clicking but left the charger on for a few hours.

When I came back, the clicking had stopped but there was a high pitched
whine/whistle coming from the same area. The battery is not providing
enough power to light the underhood lights. I disconnected the battery
and the sound stopped.

Even though I can't detect any power in the battery, now the high
pitched whine occurs whenever the battery is connected. If I fiddle with
the battery connection, I can change the pitch of the whine.

Has anybody seen this before? Any suggestions/theories? What's broken?

On the last day I drove the car prior to parking it I had brought it in
for the annual DMV inspection which it passed.

Many thanks for any ideas.
Dad - 29 Dec 2005 20:38 GMT
> I'm hoping someone can help me and recognize what has failed on my
> 1999
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>
> Many thanks for any ideas.

You can not trickle charge this battery. You have to hit it hard and
then charge it to its correct voltage.
charles - 29 Dec 2005 21:16 GMT
>> I'm hoping someone can help me and recognize what has failed on my
>> 1999 Corvette.

<snip>

>> Many thanks for any ideas.
>>
>You can not trickle charge this battery. You have to hit it hard and
>then charge it to its correct voltage.

Thanks Dad. On further thinking this through, I think that the battery
is now so enfeebled that whatever was clicking before can only whine
at this point.

I've disconnected the battery and am giving it a last shot with the
charger I have, which is not a full hit device. If that fails then
I'll buy a new battery.

The tech at the dealership says that he's seen a consistent 3 year
life on batteries in these cars and that's right on target for the one
in it now.

Thanks again.
Dad - 29 Dec 2005 23:08 GMT
>>> I'm hoping someone can help me and recognize what has failed on my
>>> 1999 Corvette.
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>
> Thanks again.

I'll have to tell the guy that has my '98, it still has the original
battery in it and seems to be doing just fine.

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charles - 30 Dec 2005 03:55 GMT
>>>> I'm hoping someone can help me and recognize what has failed on my
>>>> 1999 Corvette.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>I'll have to tell the guy that has my '98, it still has the original
>battery in it and seems to be doing just fine.

I bought the '99 new in Feb. of '99. In Oct. '02 I replaced the
original battery, which had corroded one of its terminals badly, with
a Sears' Gold Die-Hard.

I haven't had a chance to use the car much this year and probably
sitting too long contributed to the failure.
Dave - 30 Dec 2005 06:09 GMT
>>>>>I'm hoping someone can help me and recognize what has failed on my
>>>>>1999 Corvette.
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> I haven't had a chance to use the car much this year and probably
> sitting too long contributed to the failure.

Get yourself a new battery charger and recharge the battery. Get one
that will desulphate a battery and it will probably save it.

These cars will discharge a battery very quickly if they are not used
regularly. Use a Battery Tender (maintainer) (or your new charger) to
keep it charged when it sits for long periods and you will be fine.
Otherwise, drive it often like you're supposed to!

You also mentioned the corroded terminal on the original battery. While
you're fooling with the battery, check below it to see if any battery
acid leaked down onto the computer and wiring which sits directly under
the battery tray.

Dave
WI
grayfox - 01 Jan 2006 20:17 GMT
My den is right next to the garage wall..while my keys were in my desk
drawer I could hear the Vette locks cycling on and off...I now keep the keys
farther away...on  the laundry room rack.

ALSO BE CAREFUL...while unloading the Vette with the rear hatch open I
tossed the keys onto the console...and a second or two later both doors
locked ...I could see the keys but had to climb in throught the back to
reach them...now that could have turned into a real problem if the hatch was
not open....never leave your keys on the seat or console...

ALSO never give your wife one of those key chain remotes for the garage
door..my wfe cycled the door  while looking in her large handbag for her
cell phone or whatever..from the bedroom at the opposite end of the
house...door was open all night.
RicSeyler - 02 Jan 2006 17:39 GMT
> ALSO BE CAREFUL...while unloading the Vette with the rear hatch open I
> tossed the keys onto the console...and a second or two later both
> doors locked ...I could see the keys but had to climb in throught the
> back to reach them...now that could have turned into a real problem if
> the hatch was not open....never leave your keys on the seat or console...

Don't the C5s have the metal ball in the Fob?
On my C4 if I lock the key fob in the car (laying on the seat, etc) all
I have to do is shake the car and the doors will unlock.

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Steve Horrillo - 02 Jan 2006 13:47 GMT
On  2-Jan-2006, "grayfox" <grayfox24@earthlink.net> wrote:

> ALSO BE CAREFUL...while unloading the Vette with the rear hatch open I
> tossed the keys onto the console...and a second or two later both doors
> locked ...I could see the keys but had to climb in throught the back to
> reach them...now that could have turned into a real problem if the hatch
> was
> not open....never leave your keys on the seat or console...

What about if it's left in the ignition? Ever have it lock then?

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grayfox - 02 Jan 2006 15:28 GMT
No.... but thats a good ting to consider..didn't think of that ..
Cool Jet - 02 Jan 2006 17:08 GMT
Steve Horrillo SPAMMED us again when he feigned interest in this thread
by writing a minimal response:
> What about if it's left in the ignition? Ever have it lock then?
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Steve Horrillo, SPAMMER / C.Ht. =^..^=
> http://BrokerAgentTrainingSPAMMER.com http://wellunder100percent.com

Steve, start the New Year off right and stop SPAMMING us like a sleazy
Realtor might do! Your transparency has worn too thin and we are
getting annoyed by your SPAMMING. You lend credibility to everything
nasty we've ever heard about slimeball realtors.
'Key - 02 Jan 2006 21:45 GMT
---snip---

well "Cool Jet",
if you want to give your 2¢ ? that's fine,
this is an open forum.
but you are not the speaker for the entire group.
you certainly are not speaking for me.
if you don't like seeing someone's post ?
(mine included)
simply kill-file them and be done with it.

my2¢
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"Key"

Cool Jet - 02 Jan 2006 22:02 GMT
> ---snip---
>
> well "Cool Jet",
> if you want to give your 2¢ ? that's fine,
> this is an open forum.

Key, thanks for giving me your blessing to post my 2¢ in this open
forum. I didn't realize I needed your consent though. By the way, if
you read the charter, it's not an open forum for SPAM.

> but you are not the speaker for the entire group.

Nor do I portend to be the speaker for the entire group. Just the ones
who don't like to be bombarded with SPAM every time your friend Steve
posts his maeningless drivel, just so he can post his link again.
Strangely enough, from your past posts, I thought you also disliked
SPAM. I must be confusing you with someone else who has spoken out
against SPAM in the past.

> you certainly are not speaking for me.

Nor would I ever be tempted too. I don't share your views on SPAM.

> if you don't like seeing someone's post ?
> (mine included)
> simply kill-file them and be done with it.

Rather than share your apathy Key, I like to point out to SPAMMERS that
I don't like their SPAM. If you don't like to see me asking SPAMMERS to
stop SPAMMING, you would appear to know your options.

> my2¢

and mine ;-)

Cool Jet
'Key - 02 Jan 2006 23:36 GMT
Signature

"Key"

'Key wrote:
> ---snip---
>
> well "Cool Jet",
> if you want to give your 2¢ ? that's fine,
> this is an open forum.

Key, thanks for giving me your blessing to post my 2¢ in
this open
forum. I didn't realize I needed your consent though. By the
way, if
you read the charter, it's not an open forum for SPAM.

> but you are not the speaker for the entire group.

Nor do I portend to be the speaker for the entire group.
Just the ones
who don't like to be bombarded with SPAM every time your
friend Steve
posts his maeningless drivel, just so he can post his link
again.
Strangely enough, from your past posts, I thought you also
disliked
SPAM. I must be confusing you with someone else who has
spoken out
against SPAM in the past.

> you certainly are not speaking for me.

Nor would I ever be tempted too. I don't share your views on
SPAM.

> if you don't like seeing someone's post ?
> (mine included)
> simply kill-file them and be done with it.

Rather than share your apathy Key, I like to point out to
SPAMMERS that
I don't like their SPAM. If you don't like to see me asking
SPAMMERS to
stop SPAMMING, you would appear to know your options.

> my2¢

and mine ;-)

Cool Jet
'Key - 02 Jan 2006 23:42 GMT
Signature

"Key"

'Key wrote:
> ---snip---
>
> well "Cool Jet",
> if you want to give your 2¢ ? that's fine,
> this is an open forum.

Key, thanks for giving me your blessing to post my 2¢ in
this open
forum. I didn't realize I needed your consent though. By the
way, if
you read the charter, it's not an open forum for SPAM.

> but you are not the speaker for the entire group.

Nor do I portend to be the speaker for the entire group.
Just the ones
who don't like to be bombarded with SPAM every time your
friend Steve
posts his maeningless drivel, just so he can post his link
again.
Strangely enough, from your past posts, I thought you also
disliked
SPAM. I must be confusing you with someone else who has
spoken out
against SPAM in the past.

> you certainly are not speaking for me.

Nor would I ever be tempted too. I don't share your views on
SPAM.

> if you don't like seeing someone's post ?
> (mine included)
> simply kill-file them and be done with it.

Rather than share your apathy Key, I like to point out to
SPAMMERS that
I don't like their SPAM. If you don't like to see me asking
SPAMMERS to
stop SPAMMING, you would appear to know your options.

> my2¢

and mine ;-)

Cool Jet

looks like you missed my point.
the spam had nothing to do with my point.
I too don't like SPAM. I also do NOT know Steve.
the only thing I was responding to was that you appeared to
be talking for the group.
--
"Key"
Cool Jet - 03 Jan 2006 04:02 GMT
> Cool Jet
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> --
> "Key"

Key, I did indeed miss your point. I mistakenly thought you were
defending Steve's SPAMMING and responded accordingly. My apology if I
gave the impression that I was speaking on anyone's behalf, other than
my own.  The new wave of SPAMMERS p's me off by posting absolute
drivel, just so they can print a link to their websites.  This Steve
Horrillo guy posts the same nonsense in several automotive groups that
I subscribe to and always with a link to his real estate websites,
thinking that he is sneaking his SPAM past the various groups. My
apology also for ripping on you. I think we're on the same side of the
SPAM issue.
'Key - 03 Jan 2006 05:35 GMT
>> Cool Jet
>>
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> side of the
> SPAM issue.

ok, my bad too..
we are "on the same side of the SPAM issue".

happy new year to you & yours..
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"Key"

Steve Horrillo - 05 Jan 2006 03:41 GMT
> This Steve
> Horrillo guy posts the same nonsense in several automotive groups that
> I subscribe to and always with a link to his real estate websites,
> thinking that he is sneaking his SPAM past the various groups

That's BS. Those sites are for Realtor training and Realtor recruiting. Who
in a car goup would be interested? My sig is the same wherever I post.
Crying wolf as you are doesn't help reduce spam, it just ruins the
credibility of people with legitimate complaints. Choose your battles more
carefully and don't be such a crybaby. If I'm the biggest fish you have to
fry I feel sorry for you.

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Warmest regards,

Steve Horrillo, Realtor / C.Ht. =^..^=
http://BrokerAgentTraining.com http://over100percent.com

Cool Jet - 05 Jan 2006 07:27 GMT
> > This Steve
> > Horrillo guy posts the same nonsense in several automotive groups that
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> That's BS. Those sites are for Realtor training and Realtor recruiting. Who
> in a car goup would be interested? My sig is the same wherever I post.

Er . . . Steve, those are links to websites, not signatures. Quit
trying so hard to rationalize your indiscretions!

> Crying wolf as you are doesn't help reduce spam, it just ruins the
> credibility of people with legitimate complaints. Choose your battles more
> carefully and don't be such a crybaby. If I'm the biggest fish you have to
> fry I feel sorry for you.

Steve, crying wolf may not reduce SPAM, but alerting the SPAMMER that
they are SPAMMING helps when the SPAMMER is too, shall we say, stupid
to even realize that they are SPAMMING in the first place. Oh, and I
have never accused you of being a "big Fish" Steve. Au contraire, you
are a very small fish in a very big pond. Perhaps it's that aspect of
your inferiority complex that compels you to SPAM in the first place.

> --
> Warmest regards,
>
> Steve Horrillo, Realturd / C.Ht. =^..^=
> http://BrokeAgentWithTrainingWheels.com http://justover10percentsuccessful.com
Steve Horrillo - 05 Jan 2006 15:12 GMT
> Steve, crying wolf may not reduce SPAM, but alerting the SPAMMER that
> they are SPAMMING helps when the SPAMMER is too, shall we say, stupid
> to even realize that they are SPAMMING in the first place. Oh, and I
> have never accused you of being a "big Fish" Steve. Au contraire, you
> are a very small fish in a very big pond. Perhaps it's that aspect of
> your inferiority complex that compels you to SPAM in the first place.

My business is local. There's an almost zero chance of getting an actual
custome. I have all the business I can handle by word of mouth. If it's spam
then you can get my isp to shut me down. Fact is, it's not in violation of
any TOS agreement or even netiquette. So just crawl back under the porch and
let corvette the discussion continue.

You've wasted enough of everone's time. Get a life then have a nice life.
BYE

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Warmest regards,

Steve Horrillo, Realtor / C.Ht.
http://BrokerAgentTraining.com http://over100percent.com

'Key - 05 Jan 2006 19:29 GMT
>> Steve, crying wolf may not reduce SPAM, but alerting the
>> SPAMMER that
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> under the porch and
> let corvette the discussion continue.
---snip---

agree Steve, they are NOT spam !
links in signatures have always been excepted in every n/g
that I have ever been to.

g'day to ya
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"Key"
"To the world you may be one person,
but to one person you may be the world"

'Key - 05 Jan 2006 19:25 GMT
>> > This Steve
>> > Horrillo guy posts the same nonsense in several
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> signatures. Quit
> trying so hard to rationalize your indiscretions!

"Cool Jet",
have to go along with Steve on this one.
a link that's in a signature is part of the signature.
its excepted as such in every n/g that I have ever been to.
it doesn't matter that the link points to.

no pun intended
Signature

"Key"
"To the world you may be one person,
but to one person you may be the world"

Cool Jet - 05 Jan 2006 22:25 GMT
> "Cool Jet",
> have to go along with Steve on this one.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>  "To the world you may be one person,
> but to one person you may be the world"

I appreciate your feedback Key, but there's certainly evidence that
others consider it SPAM. Dad for example, who I have a lot of respect
for has killfiled Steve.  PJ presented strong evidence of same in the
string entitled "OT: Is a sig considered spamming". I guess the
question has to be asked is why or if Steve would want to alienate
other group members by doing something some members find offensive.
Time will tell I guess. But either way, I shant rant anymore.
'Key - 06 Jan 2006 03:16 GMT
>> "Cool Jet",
>> have to go along with Steve on this one.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Time will tell I guess. But either way, I shant rant
> anymore.

well, I still haven't seen any evidence.
its not evidence just because a few (well respected folks)
post their opinion the opposite way.
also,
PJ posted his opinion. it wasn't backed up anything
official.

again, no pun intended
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"Key"
"To the world you may be one person,
but to one person you may be the world"

RicSeyler - 29 Dec 2005 22:44 GMT
This clicking / whining sound is happening with nothing
turned on or keys in the ignition?

>I'm hoping someone can help me and recognize what has failed on my 1999
>Corvette.
>
>  

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charles - 30 Dec 2005 03:53 GMT
>This clicking / whining sound is happening with nothing
>turned on or keys in the ignition?

Nothing on and no key in the ignition.

Clicking happened when I first attached the charger. Now the whining
occurs when the battery is fully connected.

I'm pretty much putting it down to a dead battery at this point. If it
doesn't charge overnight I'll pull it out and either bring it to a
full strength charger or just replace it.

At first the whining sound got me concerned that some electrical
component had blown and that I'd have to find and replace it or have
the car flat bedded somewhere.

We'll see tomorrow.
RicSeyler - 30 Dec 2005 16:23 GMT
My thought was if you are hearing something with nothing
turned on or key in it, that is probably what is draining your battery.

>  
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>  

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charles - 30 Dec 2005 19:07 GMT
>Many thanks for any ideas.

Well after an overnight charge with the battery disconnected with the
1.5 amp charger I've had since grammar school everything is fine.

I think what happened is that I had left the keys on the fob emitter
too near the car since it's been parked. I know that in the past it
has clicked on and off occasionally, why I had set it not to sound the
horn on activation. My theory is that that cycling is what caused the
battery drain.

Well I've put the fob in a shielded bag when not in use and I always
do try to drive the vette as often as I can.

Thanks to everyone who responded.
 
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