I'm wondering if anyone can tell me that they are very pleased with their
new C4 exhaust replacement.
Why?
What kind is it?
I thought I read someone was happy with a straight pipe.
I thought my alternator was going out again, but the squeeking was a broken
loose stock muffler swinging on the pipe!
TroY - 23 Apr 2006 03:50 GMT
i tried 3 different cat back systems on my 88--coupe..
the first 2 caused a cloud exhaust vibration inside the car.. talked to the
guys at Corvette Central and they recommended Magnaflow cat-back system.. no
complaints...
EXHAUST - CAT BACK WITH LT1 TIP MANAFLOW part #324136 cost $324.95
troy
> I'm wondering if anyone can tell me that they are very pleased with their
> new C4 exhaust replacement.
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> I thought my alternator was going out again, but the squeeking was a
> broken loose stock muffler swinging on the pipe!
Bob Gee - 23 Apr 2006 08:49 GMT
I have an 86 coupe and installed the Magnaflow cat-back system. I am really
pleased with the quality and sound of the Magnaflow system. Great product
and I would recommend it wholeheartedly.
Bob G. - 23 Apr 2006 09:50 GMT
>I'm wondering if anyone can tell me that they are very pleased with their
>new C4 exhaust replacement.
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>I thought my alternator was going out again, but the squeeking was a broken
>loose stock muffler swinging on the pipe!
====================
I ran my 95 with the eliminators (guess you could say straight pipes)
on her for a good 10 years before selling it not long ago...
I had actually purchased a cat back system and when I started to
install the system I stopped after I had removed the original
mufflers...just to start up the car to see how it sounded without the
mufflers...
Well at idle it sounded almost stock...under moderate throttle it
sound good, under WOT it sounded great... End result I returned the
cat back system and installed the eliminators with the tips....
Car did not have excessive resonance on the highway...never a problem
have a conversation with my wife... and it always passed the emission
tests...
When I sold the car I gave the new owner the original mufflers &
tips... told him it was his choice...
Bob G,
64 72 & 98 Rag tops
76 & 79 Coupes
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RicSeyler - 23 Apr 2006 21:29 GMT
Great Issue!
TUFF TUFF Car to get sounding great like the dozens of frikkin Mustangs
we hear every day..... LOL
The way the pipes travel down the trans tunnel it sets up resonance very
very easily,
and seems to be worse in the ragtop.
I tried the B&B TriFlow complete system (rubs fingers together $) and it
lasted on the car
exactly 2 days and was shipped back... Had a droning idle and got
QUIETER when rompin on it.
And had terrible resonance right at the RPM used on the highway and
around town.
I've yet to hear with my own ears anything C4 I'd put on. Still waiting :-)
When my buddie get's back from England (green card issues), he has
a complete shop with lift and TIG, MIG. I'm thinking about finding
a junkyard C4 system (1 piece no clamps at the rear bends, I HATE the look
of those clamps) and cutting the tops of the mufflers off removing the guts,
MIGING in a straight pipe to connect the inlet to exit, MIGING on the
top again,
so it looks stock but has the Muffler Eliminator sound..... I don't like
to looks of the
muffler missing back there.
>I'm wondering if anyone can tell me that they are very pleased with their
>new C4 exhaust replacement.
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Dad - 23 Apr 2006 21:43 GMT
> Great Issue!
> TUFF TUFF Car to get sounding great like the dozens of frikkin Mustangs we
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> When my buddie get's back from England (green card issues), he has
> a complete shop with lift and TIG, MIG.
That should be the easy part, finding a C4 in the junk yard, then you might
try this.... http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/kb/question.php?qstId=534
>I'm thinking about finding
> a junkyard C4 system (1 piece no clamps at the rear bends, I HATE the look
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> to looks of the
> muffler missing back there.
At the very least it won't sound like a hot Maytag.
;-)))
Dad
Joevett - 24 Apr 2006 00:21 GMT
I put the Magnaflow catback on my '86 about a year ago with the
cat/converter gutted out and like the sound but feel the cockpit is a
"little" loud but o.k for conversation (I don't have to YELL: ) THe first
couple of months the system seemed to clear out black dust which ended up on
the back of the car and had to be constantly cleaned. I'm not sure if it
was the gutted converter or new Magnaflow system but may have been the
former. I do like the sound and looks of the stainless steel pipes which
are easy to clean.
> I'm wondering if anyone can tell me that they are very pleased with their
> new C4 exhaust replacement.
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> I thought my alternator was going out again, but the squeeking was a
> broken loose stock muffler swinging on the pipe!
Mike - 24 Apr 2006 00:22 GMT
Thanks Troy and Bob. Mines an 88 and the 324 price tag is not too shabby
when compared to 1000+ for something that would be to noisy. I am however
anxious to see what it sounds like when I do remove the mufflers. Makes
sense, if you leave everything in place, the resonance probably "sets up" on
the trip down the tunnel. If the exhaust makes it to the rear (mufflers)
without annoyance, then maybe it matters not what you put back there.
Thanks Dad for the URL. I'll read it over and see if it's feasible for my
garage. I would love to tack on a few horsies to the 245. BTW you owe us
an apology for the crack about C4's and junk yards. My crummy C4 shines
above the best of stangs. ;-)
Dad - 24 Apr 2006 04:41 GMT
> Thanks Troy and Bob. Mines an 88 and the 324 price tag is not too shabby
> when compared to 1000+ for something that would be to noisy. I am however
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> an apology for the crack about C4's and junk yards. My crummy C4 shines
> above the best of stangs. ;-)
I do apologize, but I'm not as sorry as I was when I was driving a C4. ;-))
You need to tell me what's wrong with my Mustang, 65, Wimbledon white, blue
interior, huge 200 CID six with three on the floor. Promo car with a special
price of $1965 with all of the 64 1/2 goodies except the 2 number code for
interior color, darn.
All kidding aside I have the tools, the lift, and the MIG welder to do that
job, bring it on, we can make it purr.
Dad
xpert - 24 Apr 2006 14:47 GMT
Look on ebay and see what people are selling..those are the after market
ones to avoid.....Borla etc..create so much resonance that after one or two
days they are history..Resonance is the problem not the exhaust tone
...drives you crazy at normal highway speeds. Sold mine at 50% loss after
one week...lucky I kept the original mufflers..and did the installation
myself. I have my own lift in a three car garage.( Most of the new homes in
our area have three car garages and some have 3+ a motor home garage with 10
foot doors)
The Reverend Natural Light - 24 Apr 2006 21:51 GMT
'91 C4: I used Flowmaster replacement mufflers - "American Thunder"
series, I think. I'm very dissatisfied with them. The resonance at
cruising speed overpowers everything and even makes interior parts
rattle. They get quieter at higher RPMs and the full throttle sound is
okay.
I had an '87 C4 with a chambered exhaust of unknown origin that sounded
really good. Wish I knew what it was. It was supposedly factory
installed but I've never heard of that elsewhere.
-rev
PJ - 25 Apr 2006 16:47 GMT
> '91 C4: I used Flowmaster replacement mufflers - "American Thunder"
> series, I think. I'm very dissatisfied with them. The resonance at
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>
> -rev
Ditto. C4 had Flowmasters from first owner. One round trip to LAX was
enuf. A local muffler shop did a 'temporary fix' with a pair of used
resonators taken off a Lincoln limo conversion (this is no-s**t folks).
The 'temporary fix' has been on the car for over 5 years. I finally
had tips added to the exhausts making it sort of permanent. At WOT this
C4 sounds more like a city bus than a free flowing sports car.
Has anyone found an exhaust system that provides a nice rumble ('60s
glaspak sound) from idle to 35 mph then quiets down above 1800 ? A deep
rumble in creeping traffic would be nice and I'd like to cruise at 70-75
with mostly tire noise. Muffler guy claims that he has never been able
to produce that sound on a C4 without removing the CAT. Which, seems to
be how this thread is evolving.
--
PJ
'89 Hookercar '02 e-blu coupe
88C4RagTop - 26 Apr 2006 08:16 GMT
We're back to the CAT thing again. I'd like to cut mine off or at least gut
it to stop the bloody rattling :)
There seems to be different school of thought regarding the CAT. I was
told I'd have to 'chip' my car if I wanted to replace the CAt with a
straight piece of stainless steel.
BTW, I have a Dyna-Max exhaust? It was on the car when I bought it so I
don't know what model it is. Sorry. I love the sound at any RPM and it
isn't too noisy in my convertible. And yes it has a nice deep rumble when
crawling in traffic.
88C4RagTop
>> '91 C4: I used Flowmaster replacement mufflers - "American Thunder"
>> series, I think. I'm very dissatisfied with them. The resonance at
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> PJ
> '89 Hookercar '02 e-blu coupe
Vette Guy - 26 Apr 2006 15:41 GMT
You do NOT have to change a chip...just look up google and buy a $40 "ss
test pipe"....don't listen to idiots that don't know what they are talking
about...you will have NO problems except a bit louder exhaust....( REMEMBER
FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY )..next these experts will be telling you that you
need to change the chip every time you replace a light bulb or clean the
windshield.
belrophon@hotmail.com - 26 Apr 2006 18:04 GMT
Thanks Vette Guy. You are going to laff at me for sure, but I don't
get the (REMEMBER FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY) Does that mean you wouldn't
reccomend replacing the CAT with a straight pipe unless it's for track
use only? I don't race my Vette and it's just for everyday driving.
Is this still an option for me? My apologies for being 'noobish' :)
C4RagTop
Dad - 26 Apr 2006 18:17 GMT
> Thanks Vette Guy. You are going to laff at me for sure, but I don't
> get the (REMEMBER FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY) Does that mean you wouldn't
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>
> C4RagTop
It's the sellers way of getting around the legal way of repairing your car,
a legit shop can't put one on and let you out the door. Put a catalytic
converter on it and forget about it. An after marker converter isn't that
bad price wise and you can get a high flow while you're at, the labor is the
same both ways. I tried the "test" pipe once and then went back and did it
right to get it to sound less ugly.
Dad
Steve Horrillo - 26 Apr 2006 20:05 GMT
> Thanks Vette Guy. You are going to laff at me for sure, but I don't
> get the (REMEMBER FOR OFF ROAD USE ONLY) Does that mean you wouldn't
> reccomend replacing the CAT with a straight pipe unless it's for track
> use only? I don't race my Vette and it's just for everyday driving.
> Is this still an option for me? My apologies for being 'noobish' :)
He means to be street legal you should have cats. IMO a little back pressure
is a good thing anyhow. Also sound wise it's better to have cats or a
resonator especially if you have no mufflers. But I'd pick one or the other.
If I were to put mufflers on my C5 the cats would be history.

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Mike - 28 Apr 2006 01:34 GMT
I'd be greatfull for a lead to a dyna-max cat back system.
BTW Dad, that system is too complicated for my schedule and budget. I'd be
tempted however if you resided relatively near me. (SF bayarea)
??Would you be the same "old dad" that was popular in this group back in the
early-mid 90's??
Mike - 08 May 2006 02:39 GMT
FWIW I took recommendations from a few posters and bought and installed a
Magnaflow cat back. Best price I could find was $613. Easy installation.
I've had the car for 13 years now and it finally sounds like I'd always
wished it would. Looks a bit obtrusive compared to the stockers but the
stainless looks cool and love the sound.
Thanks all