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Old & in the way.... - 26 Apr 2006 19:14 GMT
Now that I have it, I am wondering how up tight I should be about being able
to protect it from the bad guys. My C6 has all the stock techno deterrents,
but I am wondering if I should be looking to anything else.

My home/storage is good, so I am mainly concerned about is those times when
I am on the road and having to park my coupe in a motel parking lot or on a
city street.

What works?

Thanks, brian
Dad - 26 Apr 2006 20:11 GMT
> Now that I have it, I am wondering how up tight I should be about being able
> to protect it from the bad guys. My C6 has all the stock techno deterrents,
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>
> Thanks, brian

Luck, and don't be stupid, travel where there are lots of nice cars with
nice people. Don't leave anything in it you can't/don't want to lose. I've
been lucky enough to live in a rural setting most of my life and have had
very little trouble. I pick where I park and try to be a little
inconspicuous and never ever take up more than my parking space.

Within a week of getting the C6 I came out of a store to see a jacked up
black pickup park on the right side of me, nearly empty lot and I'm in the
middle. The broad falls out of the thing hitting the top of my passenger
door with her door. Yep, nice door ding in the paint about 2 inches down
from the glass. Got in and left, it's still there and I've still not had to
explain why they shouldn't revoke my CCW. Bad situations are best left at
that level.

When it comes right down to it people pay little or no attention to what
you're driving. Those that know what it is appreciate it and leave it alone
for the most part.

Dad
Tom in Missouri - 27 Apr 2006 06:45 GMT
Anytime you have it serviced, anywhere, record who had it and if they had
the key.  A guy on Corvette Forum in Miami just had one stolen and they
drove off with it, so it is figured the guy had access to the key somewhere
along.

If you are in a major metro area or travel to them, check on LoJack.  It
really works.  However, some PDs are apparently reluctant with it. This you
need to know before spending the bucks.

Alarm. A good old silent paging alarm that lets you know someone is in it or
attempting is good. Then 911. The temptation is to pull the 9 mm or .45 and
save the world some trouble, but that just makes a lot for you.  Although, I
think Florida recently passed a law letting you protect your property in an
armed fashion.

If you have the alarm, maybe you can wire in a remote kill along with (or
instead of) the remote start that so many have.  This way if it does start
at night and the guy is driving away, you can kill the car while dialing
911. Really be a bad day for him if he is trying to restart it a block away
when the red lights show up.

Insure it. If they want it, there is nothing you can do. Rollback and it is
gone.

What is really needed is a personal GPS that can answer to a call and report
the location. Then you can call your car, let it tell you where it is, and
make a few people have a bad day when the boys in blue show up.

> Now that I have it, I am wondering how up tight I should be about being
> able to protect it from the bad guys. My C6 has all the stock techno
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>
> Thanks, brian
Vette Guy - 27 Apr 2006 16:15 GMT
YES....Florida has a new law in 2006 that allows you to shoot ( KILL )..any
one that you feel is a threat to your life.....they do not have to
armed..you can have a hand gun at home ..you do need a carry permit if you
want to have a concealed hand gun on your person. Garage sales/flea markets
here often sell guns  to anyone...I bought a beautiful AK-47 at a garage
sale also a WWII Luger ( $150 ).....so watch your a** if you screw around
with Fl residents...and yes you can carry a hand gun in your car ( with some
restrictions )..and these Rednecks are fast to react ...!
lab~rat  >:-) - 27 Apr 2006 19:00 GMT
>YES....Florida has a new law in 2006 that allows you to shoot ( KILL )..any
>one that you feel is a threat to your life.....they do not have to
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>with Fl residents...and yes you can carry a hand gun in your car ( with some
>restrictions )..and these Rednecks are fast to react ...!

It's a good deterrent to keep the bad guys guessing...
--
lab~rat  >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
'Key - 28 Apr 2006 01:57 GMT
> YES....Florida has a new law in 2006 that allows you to
> shoot ( KILL )..any one that you feel is a threat to your
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> your car ( with some restrictions )..and these Rednecks
> are fast to react ...!

law doesn't apply in his situation.
if they are attempting to steal his car when he is NOT in it
?
they are NOT threatening his life.

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Old & in the way.... - 28 Apr 2006 03:15 GMT
> law doesn't apply in his situation.
> if they are attempting to steal his car when he is NOT in it ?
> they are NOT threatening his life.

Ya mean that I'll have to sleep in the thing?

brian
'Key - 28 Apr 2006 04:43 GMT
>> law doesn't apply in his situation.
>> if they are attempting to steal his car when he is NOT in
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>
> brian

if you want to shoot them legally :-)
I was serious about having good insurance....
I have been in the locksmith security business for the past
24 years and I can tell you for a fact,
that NOTHING is really safe these days.

g'day brian
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Old & in the way.... - 28 Apr 2006 06:04 GMT
"'Key" <Key@Ya.Net> wrote
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> I was serious about having good insurance....
> I have been in the locksmith security business for the past 24 years and I
> can tell you for a fact,
> that NOTHING is really safe these days.
>
> g'day brian

You know, I never figgured that the world would work out this way (I'm 60).
It was suposed to be paradise by now, but that dream is quickly book'in a
ride out of town.....

And so I am cynical, very cautious. I understand all that you guys have
said, both about the technology and its limits and about how I have to
relate to the actual situation as it developes around the car.

Thanks guys, Brian
Dad - 28 Apr 2006 14:20 GMT
> "'Key" <Key@Ya.Net> wrote
> ...........................
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>
> Thanks guys, Brian

Oh to be a young 60 again. You think it's booking out of town now, hang on,
the roller coaster hasn't hit the peak yet and will scare the sh.t out of
you in a couple of years. Yep, it's all down hill from here on, just learn
to accept those things you can no longer change and enjoy those you can. I
think the worst rut to get into is that "the party is about over" feeling.

Don't fret about that car, they make them every day, but there is only one
of you. Enjoy it and start making up reasons to drive it every chance you
get, it's no fun in the garage. Taking the '72 to Michigan to one of my 5
granddaughter's birthday tomorrow. Must have put 300 miles on the '05 this
last week, to many other hobbies to drive it more right now.

Good luck,

Dad
'Key - 28 Apr 2006 14:40 GMT
> "'Key" <Key@Ya.Net> wrote
> ...........................
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>
> Thanks guys, Brian

you're welcome Brian.
the world is also not how I envisioned it.

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RicSeyler - 28 Apr 2006 17:48 GMT
Yea it's the 21st Century, we were suppose to have Flying Cars,
Meals in Pill Form, and Robot Sex Partners by now! LOL
<shakes fist>

> You know, I never figgured that the world would work out this way (I'm 60).
> It was suposed to be paradise by now, but that dream is quickly book'in a
> ride out of town.....
>
> Thanks guys, Brian

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Old & in the way.... - 28 Apr 2006 20:31 GMT
> Yea it's the 21st Century, we were suppose to have Flying Cars,
> Meals in Pill Form, and Robot Sex Partners by now! LOL
> <shakes fist>

Well some of us got the pills anyway............ ;-)

brian
Old & in the way.... - 27 Apr 2006 17:24 GMT
> Anytime you have it serviced, anywhere, record who had it and if they had
> the key.  A guy on Corvette Forum in Miami just had one stolen and they
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> report the location. Then you can call your car, let it tell you where it
> is, and make a few people have a bad day when the boys in blue show up.

All good suggestions, especially the GPS/cell set up. I have insurance, Low
Jack and whatever Chevy puts stock into the new Vette for an alarm. I have
always been careful with any car or truck that I have had when parking or
servicing, but......... there are times when I have to walk away from it in
a unfamiliar area (especially when traveling) to eat or sleep. During these
times the risk is highest and I am thinking an obvious mechanical devise,
such as a club or shifter lock might be good.

What do you think of such lo tech, high visibility, things? What is
available and where can they be found? Any experiences with good or bad
locks?

Thanks, brian
'Key - 28 Apr 2006 01:59 GMT
>> Anytime you have it serviced, anywhere, record who had it
>> and if they had the key.  A guy on Corvette Forum in
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>
> Thanks, brian

the club is a joke and most locks are a joke too...

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PJ - 27 Apr 2006 18:26 GMT
> Now that I have it, I am wondering how up tight I should be about being able
> to protect it from the bad guys. My C6 has all the stock techno deterrents,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Thanks, brian

San Diego competes annually as the U.S. car theft capital.  We've got
good talent on all sides of the issue--thieves, cops, alarm salesmen
etc.  Fortunately 4WD is the big target but, in 35 years I've been
thrice ripped off.  One beetle, one truck & a 911 (Alpine alarm).  911
was from the front of the house during a Sunday afternoon pool party.
Neighbor called as it was hauled away on a white flatbed with a
fictitious garage name on the side of the cab.

All had passive alarms, the truck had a 'club' on the wheel.  We got the
beetle and the truck back after they were used to haul illegal aliens.
The Club had cheese-whiz forced into the lock!  Buddy's Crossfire with
lo-jac vanished from the gated corporate garage.  He also had a silent
alarm that was linked to a beeper on his belt--he heard nothing.  We get
a theft insurance discount for VATS on the 'vettes and for OnStar but my
insurance guy says that OnStar can be defeated with a roll of aluminum foil.

If they want it, they will take it. Do the right stuff, lock it, enjoy
it but don't fall in love with it.  Sensible works -- "up-tight" doesn't
work.  Always carry cab fare.  Enjoy the C6 and remember to wave -- even
at C4s.

--
PJ
'89 Hookercar '02 e-blu 6-spd
Old & in the way.... - 27 Apr 2006 19:34 GMT
>> Now that I have it, I am wondering how up tight I should be about being
>> able to protect it from the bad guys. My C6 has all the stock techno
>> deterrents, but I am wondering if I should be looking to anything else.

> San Diego competes annually as the U.S. car theft capital.  ..........in
> 35 years I've been thrice ripped off.

> All had passive alarms, the truck had a 'club' on the wheel.

> If they want it, they will take it. Do the right stuff, lock it, enjoy it
> but don't fall in love with it.

I had only one taken (in SD), a one month old '65 396 Vette. And it was
taken from the dealer's lot during a service appt.

All good advise PJ, thanks. But too late, I've already fallen in
love.............

brian who does the wave.
Charlie - 27 Apr 2006 19:48 GMT
Leave an empty pistol holster on the passenger seat.  Keep then wondering...

>>> Now that I have it, I am wondering how up tight I should be about being
>>> able to protect it from the bad guys. My C6 has all the stock techno
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>
> brian who does the wave.
CardsFan - 28 Apr 2006 02:21 GMT
>> Now that I have it, I am wondering how up tight I should be about being
>> able to protect it from the bad guys. My C6 has all the stock techno
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> work.  Always carry cab fare.  Enjoy the C6 and remember to wave -- even
> at C4s.

I'm wondering how many years will have to go by before people get off the
case of C4 owners.  I don't understand that kind of elitism.  They even call
ZR-1s bass boats.  Sheesh.

AJM
'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
'Key - 28 Apr 2006 04:38 GMT
>> I'm wondering how many years will have to go by before
>> people get off the
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> AJM
> '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp

about 10 more years when those c-4's are worth the big bucks
:-)

my2¢
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Kickstart - 28 Apr 2006 11:27 GMT
> I'm wondering how many years will have to go by before people get off the
> case of C4 owners.
Sheesh.

> AJM
> '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp
sure .... that's easy for you say

kickstart
79 C-3
Tom in Missouri - 28 Apr 2006 17:06 GMT
> San Diego competes annually as the U.S. car theft capital.  We've got good
> talent on all sides of the issue--thieves, cops, alarm salesmen etc.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> as it was hauled away on a white flatbed with a fictitious garage name on
> the side of the cab.

The flatbed is a sure-fire way.  Short of driving a telephone phone through
the center of the car, the flatbed has it.  Your only hope is to have LoJack
tracking it as it goes, have some annoyed by the alarm enough to call the
police, or to just walk up on them as they are getting it.  The last may not
be safe.

I used to work with an ex-car thief.  He used to tell me he could steal mine
in under a minute. Ex-friends of his, he said, could take it faster.  I
played poker with him instead, since I didn't want him just moving it around
the lot like he joked he'd do, and didn't want his ex-friends finding a
potential car.  He assumed I had kill switches, gas shut-off, etc., so he
would begin telling me where they were probably hidden.

I told him just be careful.  I liked him a lot, but wouldn't want him
splattered all over the inside.  When he asked how, I told him I had it all
wired to a bang stick. Do things in the wrong sequence, or not do them and
try to take the car, and BANG!, it was all over.  He didn't know what a bang
stick was.  I told him it was that pole with a 12 gauge shotgun shell that
divers use to kill sharks. He never moved the car, none of his friends ever
touched it.

Of course, you can't depend on that except where you know the threat.
Jeff - 28 Apr 2006 00:30 GMT
Idiot proof EVERYTHING.  Park in the lone stall, go to the other end of the
parking lot,park in loading docks.  By all means stay away from everyone.
Use your imagination and common sense otherwise you'll wind up with a beat
up piece of junk.

> Now that I have it, I am wondering how up tight I should be about being able
> to protect it from the bad guys. My C6 has all the stock techno deterrents,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Thanks, brian
'Key - 28 Apr 2006 01:49 GMT
> Now that I have it, I am wondering how up tight I should
> be about being able to protect it from the bad guys. My C6
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Thanks, brian

good insurance policy...

no pun intended
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