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Anon - 03 Jun 2006 23:27 GMT
OK;  didn't measure the sway bar yet,  but did the MPH.

55 MPH = 1,500 rpm
75 MPH = 2,000 rpm

I didn't see a speed to rear end ratio calculator,  BTW.

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Bob I - 04 Jun 2006 01:50 GMT
http://www.idavette.net/tech/ratioc.htm

> OK;  didn't measure the sway bar yet,  but did the MPH.
>
> 55 MPH = 1,500 rpm
> 75 MPH = 2,000 rpm
>
> I didn't see a speed to rear end ratio calculator,  BTW.
Anon - 04 Jun 2006 02:08 GMT
> http://www.idavette.net/tech/ratioc.htm

I am totally scratching my head.  I found a tire diameter calculator,  and
if I put in 275 - 40 - 18"   I end up with a diameter of 26.661417322834644,
which means my ratio is 2.116.   The tire diameter website is
http://www.americanracing.com/techcenter/DiameterCalculator/DiameterCalculator.htm

That doesn't get me even close to 2.73 or 3.15.   What on earth am I doing
wrong?   (2,000 rpm = 75 and 1,500 rpm = 55).    Should I have been in 3rd
gear and not 4th gear (overdrive)?

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PJ - 04 Jun 2006 07:31 GMT
>> http://www.idavette.net/tech/ratioc.htm
>
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> wrong?   (2,000 rpm = 75 and 1,500 rpm = 55).    Should I have been in 3rd
> gear and not 4th gear (overdrive)?

Third is straight through.  Fourth (OD) is 0.70 on the idavette site. My
owner's manual doesn't have the transmission ratios.
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Anon - 04 Jun 2006 17:52 GMT
>>> http://www.idavette.net/tech/ratioc.htm
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> Third is straight through.  Fourth (OD) is 0.70 on the idavette site.
> My owner's manual doesn't have the transmission ratios.

OK,  thanks.  Lemme try it again.  So I take the inverse of the .7  and
that's what my 3rd gear would have been doing;  then use the ratio program
again?    If I do that,  I get an inverse of 1.4 and when I multiply that by
the 1,500 rpm I get 2,100 rpm.  the tire is 26.7 inches and the speed is 55
mph.  I get a ratio of  3.04.    If I was doing an extra 75 rpm's (2,175) I
am right at 3.15 ratio.  I must have that,  no?    I am much closer to that
than to 2.73.

One other thing,  doing that website it appears that having the 3.15 ratio
means that top speed on the car is 147 mph instead of 174 mph.  Is that
correct too?    Or did Chevrolet do something with 4th gear so you don't
lose all of your high speed capability?

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Dad - 04 Jun 2006 20:22 GMT
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> again?    If I do that,  I get an inverse of 1.4 and when I multiply
> that by the 1,500 rpm I get 2,100 rpm.  the tire is 26.7 inches and
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> Is that correct too?    Or did Chevrolet do something with 4th gear
> so you don't lose all of your high speed capability?

Fourth gear will not pull up to the 174, I can tell you that with the
3:15 it will go to nearly 150 in third. Right at 6,000 RPM, I say
nearly because I didn't have HUD and didn't spent much time looking at
the dash. A very slight dip in the road made my decision to shut it
down. I had traveled that stretch a few time to get the feel of the
road before I open it up and it didn't seem that bad at normal speeds.
The Corvette suckeddown tight as your speed increases but when you
bottom out the frame it can get scary real quick.

I did a search on this group and found an old post that might be of
interest to you.
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Interesting mix,

Gear Ratios
           LS1-2/M6     LS6-7/M6      LS2/M6      LS1-2/A4  LS2/A6
1st Gear  2.66:1          2.97:1         2.97:1          3.06:1
4.02:1
2nd Gear 1.78:1          2.07:1         2.07:1          1.63:1
2.36:1
3rd Gear  1.30:1          1.43:1         1.43:1          1.00:1
1.53:1
4th Gear  1.00:1          1.00:1         1.00:1             .70:1
1.15:1
5th Gear  0.74:1          0.84:1               -
.85:1
6th Gear  0.50:1           0.56:1               -
.67:1
Reverse   2.90:1           3.28:1         3.28:1            2.29:1
3.03:1
                 Std             Z06            Z51
Auto                 Auto
Rear gear for the       LS1-2 A4 is 2.73 optional 3.15
                               LS1 M6 is 3.42

                               LS6  M6 is 3.42

                               LS2  A6 is 2.56 no options yet

                               LS7  M6 is 3.42
Anon - 04 Jun 2006 20:35 GMT
> Fourth gear will not pull up to the 174, I can tell you that with the
> 3:15 it will go to nearly 150 in third. Right at 6,000 RPM, I say
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> The Corvette suckeddown tight as your speed increases but when you
> bottom out the frame it can get scary real quick.

I would be extremely curious to see top speeds by gear depending on rear end
ratio.    So far,  I have only taken this car to about 130.   That felt
extremely fast;  considering that it was not a limited access highway.  I
hope the car can do 150,  but 170 would be even better!     I was at the
Chevy dealer the other day,  and they gave me the big brochure for the 2006
C6.  It said the car could do 198.  Can you imagine that?

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Bob I - 05 Jun 2006 01:59 GMT
>>Fourth gear will not pull up to the 174, I can tell you that with the
>>3:15 it will go to nearly 150 in third. Right at 6,000 RPM, I say
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> Chevy dealer the other day,  and they gave me the big brochure for the 2006
> C6.  It said the car could do 198.  Can you imagine that?

That 198 would be the C6 ZO6, the C6 coupe 6sp manual will only do about
186 as it is about 105 hp shy of the ZO6.
Bob I - 04 Jun 2006 17:03 GMT
Sounds like you have the performance axle (3.15) You have .70 for the
gearing in "4th" through the auto. Also, I put a tape across our rear
tire diameter and got 26" as opposed to 26 2/3 inches, so that would
make the math a little different.

http://www.idavette.net/facts/c5specs/#trans

>>http://www.idavette.net/tech/ratioc.htm
>
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> wrong?   (2,000 rpm = 75 and 1,500 rpm = 55).    Should I have been in 3rd
> gear and not 4th gear (overdrive)?
Tom in Missouri - 05 Jun 2006 03:27 GMT
Tire calculators are neat toys, but if you want accuracy, you have two
options - measure it or use the manufacturer's data.  Each manufacturer
makes different sizes, even if they are all the same numbers, i.e.,
255/60-16 is not the same for everyone.

The most accurate measurement is to mark the tire and the ground, roll the
tire one revolution, then mark the ground where the tire mark hits.  Better
to do two or three and then divide, so that you take some of the error out.
Remember C = pi * D.

Remember you want loaded rolling diameter, so it has to be on the car and
rolling on the ground.  You can't just wrap a measuring tape around the
tire.

I have found this axle calculator close enough plus it lists several other
axles.  There is also a list with transmission ratios, which need to be
figured it, especially with an OD.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl/procrastination/rear.html

>> http://www.idavette.net/tech/ratioc.htm
>
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> wrong?   (2,000 rpm = 75 and 1,500 rpm = 55).    Should I have been in 3rd
> gear and not 4th gear (overdrive)?
 
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