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Does anyone take up two parking spaces at a parking lot ?

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dave - 25 Aug 2006 18:59 GMT
Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two parking spaces in
a parking lot * PROVIDING they park quite a distance from  the place
they are going into , and,  if the parking lot is fairly empty ? (
*please note the qualification).
The point of doing this is to avoid people dinging your car because
theyve parked too close to you , and not show off or be flashy.

If you dont park double, and if you park single...do you try to park in
a corner and if so, have you had people park too close to you and/or
have you gotton vandalized with your Vette being so far out in the
parking lot ?

Lastly, if  you know youll be parking in a parking lot for some
time...do you just take your tin car instead of the vette ?

What is your preference out of the above ?

Thanks.
Tikbalang - 25 Aug 2006 20:02 GMT
I use the handicapped parking space to avoid door dings.

My doctor signed the papers to get me a handicapped placard because
"most people are handicapped because of morbid obesity and they need
to walk farther."

(Let the flames begin!)

>Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two parking spaces in
>a parking lot * PROVIDING they park quite a distance from  the place
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Thanks.
CardsFan - 25 Aug 2006 20:20 GMT
>I use the handicapped parking space to avoid door dings.
>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>>
>>Thanks.

At work, I park in a parking garage, and I always take an end space and put
it as far away from the next spot as I can.  When parking in a shopping
center lot, I park far away where there are no other cars.  This still
doesn't work though.  I've parked a half-mile out with no other cars in
sight and when I went back to the car, there were two cars right next to
mine.  Maybe they were checking to see if it was locked, maybe just looking
it over, there was no damage to it.  Still, aggravating...

Here at work, taking up two spots will get you a $20 parking ticket.  At the
mall, taking up two spots is asking to get keyed, even if you're parked out
in the boondocks.  JMO.

AJM
'93 Ruby coupe, 6 speed (both tops)
dave - 25 Aug 2006 22:37 GMT
'I use the handicapped parking space to avoid door dings.
My doctor signed the papers to get me a handicapped placard because
"most people are handicapped because of morbid obesity and they need to
walk farther."
(Let the flames begin!)'

REPLY:  Well, how much would i have to weigh in order to get a legal
Handicapped Placard due to morbid obesity ?  Might be worth eating
Hostess Twinkies and Pecan Pie morning, noon, and night for the next 4
years ; but then i wouldnt be able to get in and out of the Vette !
Tikbalang - 25 Aug 2006 23:31 GMT
You'd have to weigh 300 pounds. Didn't you see the episode of the
Simpson's where Homer gained #300 to get on disability?

>'I use the handicapped parking space to avoid door dings.
>My doctor signed the papers to get me a handicapped placard because
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Hostess Twinkies and Pecan Pie morning, noon, and night for the next 4
>years ; but then i wouldnt be able to get in and out of the Vette !
dave - 26 Aug 2006 13:27 GMT
'You'd have to weigh 300 pounds. Didn't you see the episode of the
Simpson's where Homer gained #300 to get on disability?'

REPLY:  I dont think Doctors consider 300 lbs. 'morbid obesity' ;  a man
over 6'5" could weigh 300 and just look well-covered.  No, i dont watch
The Simpsons and the only Homer i know is from the Beverly Hillbillys.
newbie2@aohell.com - 27 Aug 2006 01:58 GMT
>'You'd have to weigh 300 pounds. Didn't you see the episode of the
>Simpson's where Homer gained #300 to get on disability?'
>
>REPLY:  I dont think Doctors consider 300 lbs. 'morbid obesity' ;  a man
>over 6'5" could weigh 300 and just look well-covered.  No, i dont watch
>The Simpsons and the only Homer i know is from the Beverly Hillbillys.

There was a fat guy (400+) who owned my C4 before me. He broke the
left side of the tilt wheel (pivot pin) by using the steering wheel to
pull himself out of the car (he would then walk over to the passenger
side of the car to remove the small oxygen tank and cart). He also
ruined the driver seat due to his weight. In some cases there is more
damage done to the car by the driver than the people who park next to
it.
Dad - 27 Aug 2006 02:13 GMT
> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 07:27:36 -0500, Fast1970Vette@webtv.net (dave)
>>REPLY:  I dont think Doctors consider 300 lbs. 'morbid obesity' ;  a man
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> damage done to the car by the driver than the people who park next to
> it.

Homer in the Beverly Hillbillies??? You must be thinking of Ellie May?
ZÿRiX - 27 Aug 2006 10:59 GMT
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>> On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 07:27:36 -0500, Fast1970Vette@webtv.net (dave)
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> Homer in the Beverly Hillbillies??? You must be thinking of Ellie May?

Here it is
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0522608/

"The Beverly Hillbillies"
The Courtship of Homer Noodleman (1968)
Dad - 27 Aug 2006 17:36 GMT
>>>>The Simpsons and the only Homer i know is from the Beverly Hillbillys.
>>>
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> "The Beverly Hillbillies"
> The Courtship of Homer Noodleman (1968)
Gooollleey Sarge, I need to spend more time watchen dem dare shows mure closer.
ZÿRiX - 27 Aug 2006 23:21 GMT
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>>>>>The Simpsons and the only Homer i know is from the Beverly Hillbillys.
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> Gooollleey Sarge, I need to spend more time watchen dem dare shows mure
> closer.

Hahahahahahah gotta love it yyeeeeehhaaaaawww
BDragon - 27 Aug 2006 23:22 GMT
> >>>>The Simpsons and the only Homer i know is from the Beverly Hillbillys.
> >>>
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> > The Courtship of Homer Noodleman (1968)
> Gooollleey Sarge, I need to spend more time watchen dem dare shows mure closer.
(I don't see any Homer on the list, though)  Probably out dinging doors.
RicSeyler - 28 Aug 2006 19:48 GMT
PFFFFFTTTT HAHAHAHA!
Ole Dave isn't the most "socially aware" of the bunch

>  
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PJ - 28 Aug 2006 20:06 GMT
> PFFFFFTTTT HAHAHAHA!
> Ole Dave isn't the most "socially aware" of the bunch

Astute observation!  Hey Ric, you gittin' battened down?

Good news this a.m. is that Ernesto might just graze the east
coast and stay tame.

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RicSeyler - 29 Aug 2006 19:32 GMT
Yea it looks like it might just fizzle out. I think by tomorrow we
should be able to tell if it stays formed.
I have everything I need except for gas. I have a whole system for
preparing for no electricity. All
extension cords, plug adapters, box of flashlights, 2 pedestal fans and
generator. I can be up watching
DirecTV and fridges running with fans blowing in a half an hour. :-) Got
plenty of practice and been through
enough to have all the components I need worked out.

If it gets into the Gulf and looks like it will stay formed, I'll shoot
to the gas station and fill my 10 gas cans
before the rush. I can always use the gas next summer for yard work, etc.

>> PFFFFFTTTT HAHAHAHA!
>> Ole Dave isn't the most "socially aware" of the bunch
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> Good news this a.m. is that Ernesto might just graze the east
> coast and stay tame.

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'Key - 26 Aug 2006 03:59 GMT
> 'I use the handicapped parking space to avoid door dings.
> My doctor signed the papers to get me a handicapped
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> years ; but then i wouldnt be able to get in and out of
> the Vette !

you can take up motorcycling.
I got a tag on everything.
comes in handy too...
bad leg from 41+ years of  motorcycles :-)
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Dad - 26 Aug 2006 14:42 GMT
Only when I'm pulling my trailer with my pulling tractor on it.

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My Names Nobody - 26 Aug 2006 02:27 GMT
> Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two parking spaces in
> a parking lot * PROVIDING they park quite a distance from  the place
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Thanks.

Leave the Vette at home.

I knew a guy in high school many years ago, that would drive right up next
to any car parked in more than one spot, and intentionally park close and
smash his door into that car, he would then get out and leave his 5 tone
Junker rust bucket Camaro right next to the offending car...

Why make your car any more of a target for bad attitudes and actions?
'Key - 26 Aug 2006 04:03 GMT
>> Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two
>> parking spaces in
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> Why make your car any more of a target for bad attitudes
> and actions?

same thing happen a few times to a friend of mine.
although, he was driving a cadillac...

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Billzz - 26 Aug 2006 04:48 GMT
>>> Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two parking spaces in
>>> a parking lot * PROVIDING they park quite a distance from the place
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> same thing happen a few times to a friend of mine.
> although, he was driving a cadillac...

We lived in Texas, for a while, and I parked at the mall, and saw an elderly
lady park her Cadillac, away from all other cars, and made her way slowly to
the mall entrance.  I was thinking that she probably could have parked in
the disabled spaces, when a pickup truck came up to park, next to her car,
and the driver deliberately smashed his door into the Cadillac.  I went to
say something but quickly realized that he probably had a gun in his glove
compartment (this being Texas) and decided that discretion was the better
part of valor.  She was probably driving the Cadillac because it was her
only car, and her husband was now dead, but she could not let go of the
past, or the car.  The Luddite "rednecks" did not care.  It was an insult to
their failure to make anything of their life, and so they had to attack
anyone who had a better life.  I hoped she had insurance, and she probably
did.

My friend just bought a 2006 Corvette, with all the bells and whistles, and
can even call me, from the car, using some gee-whiz system.  I was
interested in a Ferrari, but after looking at the specs, I am getting much
more interested in a Corvette (who knew that they raced at Le Mans and are
really serious cars?)

Anyway, I told him to be very careful where he parks it.  The low-lifes are
all around.
dave - 26 Aug 2006 13:33 GMT
'when a pickup truck came up to park, next to her car, and the driver
deliberately smashed his door into the Cadillac. I went to say something
but quickly realized that he probably had a gun in his glove compartment
(this being Texas) and decided that discretion was the better part of
valor. She was probably driving the Cadillac because it was her only
car, and her husband was now dead, but she could not let go of the past,
or the car. The Luddite "rednecks" did not care.'

REPLY: Im assuming the Truck then took off after doing the crime (?) .
If so, i would have recorded their license plate number and left it on
the ladies Cadillac telling her you were an eye witness . Or, i would
have waited for her to come back out to her car and tell her personally.
These sorts of crimes should not be let go so easily ;  it screams out
for justice.
'Key - 27 Aug 2006 06:51 GMT
>>>> Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two
>>>> parking spaces in
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> and so they had to attack anyone who had a better life.  I
> hoped she had insurance, and she probably did.

well, if you were un-armed he would have been wrong if he
pulled his gun.
also. if ya really felt bad for the old-lady ?
you could have told mall security..

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Kickstart - 28 Aug 2006 12:02 GMT
> well, if you were un-armed he would have been wrong if he pulled his gun.
> also. if ya really felt bad for the old-lady ?
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> --
> "Key"
not if he was  the guy driving the pick up

sounds more like it to me
kickstart
Redbull - 26 Aug 2006 03:34 GMT
Whenever I see a Vette or MB etc taking up two spots I try to squeeze my old
pickup truck in next to them...if they are parked out in the boondocks I
park as close to them as possible....

I guess it's a Redneck thing....when I have to park my Vette I use the
regular spaces..it's only a car and a few dings are not worth worrying
about....I have owned 30-40 cars/trucks..so what is the big deal ...my only
regret is selling my 1967 Shelby GT-500...now that was the blunder of a life
time.
RicSeyler - 29 Aug 2006 19:34 GMT
> Whenever I see a Vette or MB etc taking up two spots I try to squeeze
> my old pickup truck in next to them...if they are parked out in the
> boondocks I park as close to them as possible....
>
> I guess it's a Redneck thing....

No it's rank envy in it's purest form........

> when I have to park my Vette I use the regular spaces..it's only a car
> and a few dings are not worth worrying about....I have owned 30-40
> cars/trucks..so what is the big deal ...my only regret is selling my
> 1967 Shelby GT-500...now that was the blunder of a life time.

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Dad - 30 Aug 2006 00:41 GMT
>> Whenever I see a Vette or MB etc taking up two spots I try to squeeze my old
>> pickup truck in next to them...if they are parked out in the boondocks I park
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>> what is the big deal ...my only regret is selling my 1967 Shelby GT-500...now
>> that was the blunder of a life time.

What number was yours? With only 2048 built it would be fun to track it down.
This could turn out to be some story.

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RicSeyler - 30 Aug 2006 16:07 GMT
>  
>
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>This could turn out to be some story.
>  

LOLOLOLOL Oopesy :-)

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benf802961@aol.com - 27 Aug 2006 00:43 GMT
> Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two parking spaces in
> a parking lot * PROVIDING they park quite a distance from  the place
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Thanks.

Taking up 2 spaces is just asking for your car to get keyed or your a.s
kicked.
Your vette is just a car. Don't be so anal.
'Key - 27 Aug 2006 06:59 GMT
>> Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two
>> parking spaces in
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> Taking up 2 spaces is just asking for your car to get
> keyed.

whats wrong with taking two spaces on the outside of the
parking lot where there are no cars usually parked there to
begin with.
also,
keying a car is a crime and should be prosecuted.

> or your a.s kicked.

nah, if someone tried to kick my a.s for the way I park.
they would probably be in for a big suprize :-)
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ZÿRiX - 27 Aug 2006 11:06 GMT
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>>> Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two parking spaces in
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> nah, if someone tried to kick my a.s for the way I park.
> they would probably be in for a big suprize :-)

Big suprize or little metal suprize that goes bang?
'Key - 28 Aug 2006 04:35 GMT
>>>> Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two
>>>> parking spaces in
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
>
> Big suprize or little metal suprize that goes bang?

big surprise...
can't really shoot someone over a parking space ...

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ZÿRiX - 28 Aug 2006 11:40 GMT
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>>>>> Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two parking spaces
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> big surprise...
> can't really shoot someone over a parking space ...

I come from LA it happens all the time...

Now I am in Texas (big pointed boots in the a.s) hehehehehehe
My Names Nobody - 28 Aug 2006 19:14 GMT
>> Taking up 2 spaces is just asking for your car to get keyed.
>
> whats wrong with taking two spaces on the outside of the parking lot where
> there are no cars usually parked there to begin with.

The same thing that is wrong with walking around flipping people off.  Both
activities draw a bunch of negative attention to you or your car.  If you
like that kinda thing have at it...
larrybud2002@yahoo.com - 31 Aug 2006 13:08 GMT
> whats wrong with taking two spaces on the outside of the
> parking lot where there are no cars usually parked there to
> begin with.

If there are no cars usually parked there, why do you need two spots?

What makes you more special than anyone else in taking up 2 spots?
dave - 31 Aug 2006 17:11 GMT
'whats wrong with taking two spaces on the outside of the parking lot
where there are no cars usually parked there to begin with. '

If there are no cars usually parked there, why do you need two spots?

REPLY: In case more cars come and park next to yours. (?) .  A lot might
be fairly empty at one point, but an hour later it can be different.

What makes you more special than anyone else in taking up 2 spots?

REPLY:  Its not an issue of being special (although thats what may go
thru on Observers mind) ; its a matter of trying to keep your new Car
from getting devalued by numerous dings and scratches from careless
people.  Frankly, I dont mind if non-Corvette Owners want to take up
more than one space so long as they are tactful about it .  If someone
is trying to look after their new car that they worked hard to get,
then, i appreciate their concern.
My Names Nobody - 31 Aug 2006 19:16 GMT
> 'whats wrong with taking two spaces on the outside of the parking lot
> where there are no cars usually parked there to begin with. '
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> is trying to look after their new car that they worked hard to get,
> then, i appreciate their concern.

"tactful"  In most peoples minds is everyone (no matter how special they
think they or their car is) parking it in ONE spot.

You might think you and your car are special, many more people think your
gluttonous parking habits are rude, selfish and shouldn't go unnoted,
weather that be commenting directly to you, or damaging your precious car or
whatever.

You asked if anyone takes up two parking spaces, the OVERWHELMING
consensuses is, taking up two spots is rude, selfish and inappropriate, and
that was here in the corvette group.  You are free to behave that way,
although now you can't do it in ignorance.  Nor can you be surprised if some
dolt damages your car because of your arrogant behavior.
PJ - 31 Aug 2006 19:52 GMT
Short answer -- Yes!

Last evening was one of intellectual enrichment.  I glanced across the
restaurant parking lot and noted that someone in a nicely painted truck
had straddled two parking places.  (Thought:  Ah ha, Dave bought a truck
 -- wrong!)  My bride pointed out that the truck had a handicapped
plate and that all the handicap slots were taken.  She then "explained"
that the Calif. Vehicle Code provides for straddling two places when
...etc.,  etc. ...

I love these little "learning" sessions!

So, Dave -- see your doc, name your ailment and go for it.

Another option:  In my younger years, an uncle used to take me down to
Cicero for recreational pursuits.  He always hired a street bum to
"watch" his car.  Change your eateries from the "corner diner" to
something in South Chicago.

I'm outta this thread!

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Randy - 03 Sep 2006 18:04 GMT
PJ wrote: So, Dave -- see your doc, name your ailment and go for it.

Can't ya  just see him:
"Doc.
I have a severe mental defect that prevents me from ever acting like a
normal intelligent human being and need a handicapped sticker"

Randy
Dad - 31 Aug 2006 21:47 GMT
>> 'whats wrong with taking two spaces on the outside of the parking lot
>> where there are no cars usually parked there to begin with. '
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
> can't do it in ignorance.  Nor can you be surprised if some dolt damages your
> car because of your arrogant behavior.

I think you need to say what you really think and not choke it back to this kind
of woosie answer. Then again anyone that would be naive enough to be serious
about asking a question like this most likely won't understand a plain answer,
as has been seen on the replies so far.

I always park by the cart return stalls, nobody goes near them.

I'm with PJ, this tread is a dead end...........
dave - 01 Sep 2006 23:19 GMT
Dad :'Then again anyone that would be naive enough to be serious about
asking a question like this most likely won't understand a plain answer,
as has been seen on the replies so far.'

REPLY:  I sense by the sarcasm that you still havent forgiven me Dad .
So again, I hereby apologize for any offense toward yourself or your
kinfolk in the past .
'Key - 01 Sep 2006 02:25 GMT
>> whats wrong with taking two spaces on the outside of the
>> parking lot where there are no cars usually parked there
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> If there are no cars usually parked there, why do you need
> two spots?

key word was "usually".
didn't say cars never park there.

> What makes you more special than anyone else in taking up
> 2 spots?

also didn't insinuate  anything about being special.

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larrybud2002@yahoo.com - 05 Sep 2006 20:33 GMT
> >> whats wrong with taking two spaces on the outside of the
> >> parking lot where there are no cars usually parked there
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> key word was "usually".
> didn't say cars never park there.

> > What makes you more special than anyone else in taking up
> > 2 spots?
>
> also didn't insinuate  anything about being special.

The fact that you believe you have a right to take two spots absolutely
insinuates that you think you're special.

Second, you're trying to rationalize that it's OK since "no cars
usually parked there".  You're arguing in circles.  If cars don't park
there, then you don't need two spots.  If cars do park there, your
rationalization for taking two spots goes up in smoke.
'Key - 06 Sep 2006 02:18 GMT
>> >> whats wrong with taking two spaces on the outside of
>> >> the
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> there, your
> rationalization for taking two spots goes up in smoke.

you don't know me and
you actually don't know what I believe.

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Larry Bud - 06 Sep 2006 13:50 GMT
> >> >> whats wrong with taking two spaces on the outside of
> >> >> the
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> you don't know me and
> you actually don't know what I believe.

I know what you've said, and it's clear what you believe.
'Key - 06 Sep 2006 19:38 GMT
>> >> >> whats wrong with taking two spaces on the outside
>> >> >> of
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>
> I know what you've said, and it's clear what you believe.

what I said can be taken two ways.
I guess you also you don't know me and don't know what I
believe.

my2¢
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dave - 06 Sep 2006 21:12 GMT
'what I said can be taken two ways.
I guess you also you don't know me and don't know what I believe.
my2¢
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REPLY: Well, tell him and us your beliefs so we can all know you !

'Key - 07 Sep 2006 02:45 GMT
'what I said can be taken two ways.
I guess you also you don't know me and don't know what I
believe.
my2¢
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REPLY: Well, tell him and us your beliefs so we can all know
you !

I believe he sure can't know what I believe without
personally knowing me.
surely not from my comments on this or any n/g...
if everyone really believed everything they read on an n/g ?
this place would be even more screwed up than it is :-)
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My Names Nobody - 08 Sep 2006 00:02 GMT
> 'what I said can be taken two ways.
> I guess you also you don't know me and don't know what I believe.
> my2¢

Unless you are typing lies, We all know what you believe...
'Key - 08 Sep 2006 00:15 GMT
>> 'what I said can be taken two ways.
>> I guess you also you don't know me and don't know what I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Unless you are typing lies, We all know what you
> believe...

hmmm ???

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fh - 27 Aug 2006 18:34 GMT
I try to park next to the other Vettes. NO vette owner would ding anothers
doors.

>> Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two parking spaces in
>> a parking lot * PROVIDING they park quite a distance from  the place
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> kicked.
> Your vette is just a car. Don't be so anal.
PJ - 28 Aug 2006 19:41 GMT
> Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two parking spaces in
> a parking lot * PROVIDING they park quite a distance from  the place
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Thanks.  

Spend 5 bucks, use the valet!

Short note to Chevy -- any MSRP over $ 35K deserves
a valet key or separate keyed lockable storage.

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dave - 30 Aug 2006 16:00 GMT
'Spend 5 bucks, use the valet! '

REPLY:

1.  What good would that do if a Valet Jock parks the vette next to
another car ?! Thats what im trying to avoid . Reread my OP.

2.  There is no 'valet parking' at the corner diner .  

The Orig. post is a serious topic , and shame to you folks who chose to
revert to sarcasm ;   waving to your fellow Vette Hobbiest and putting
him down on a public Forum is the epitomie of hypocrisy. Dont do it for
the sake of the Hobby .
My Names Nobody - 30 Aug 2006 20:36 GMT
> 'Spend 5 bucks, use the valet! '
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> him down on a public Forum is the epitomie of hypocrisy. Dont do it for
> the sake of the Hobby .

Well, this is a really simple issue.  It is either just a car, and you park
it like one, or it is way more than just a car to you, and your options are
slim, you don't take it to places you have to leave it parked unattended.

My daily driver is a 2005 black very large Class 4 MDT truck, it's 10 feet
wide (counting the mirrors, the bed is 98 inches wide) & 23 feet long.  I
ALWAYS park it in-between the lines (sometimes actually touching the lines
on each side).

One of my pet peeves is someone driving a big pickup (even the largest
one-ton dully crew cab is still smaller than my truck) who can't get it
straight into one parking spot, if they get in or out while I am there,
though I would NEVER vandalize their rudely parked vehicle, I do tell them
"If you can't park it, don't drive it".

If you don't mind attracting the over abundance of negative attention that
parking in more than one parking spot draws, out of many people, for many
different reasons, (not unlike cutting in line or flipping people off) go
ahead and try to justify that to yourself.  Just don't be surprised when
someone does something nasty to your car.

You asked a question Dave, there is my answer, with NO sarcasm or hypocrisy.
lab~rat  >:-) - 31 Aug 2006 12:57 GMT
>> 'Spend 5 bucks, use the valet! '
>>
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>
>You asked a question Dave, there is my answer, with NO sarcasm or hypocrisy.

I had my car keyed in High School for taking up two spots in a 2/3
full lot.  Learned my lesson.  So did the jackass that keyed my car
and was dumb enough to brag about it.
--
lab~rat  >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
dave - 31 Aug 2006 17:06 GMT
'I had my car keyed in High School for taking up two spots in a 2/3 full
lot. Learned my lesson. So did the jackass that keyed my car and was
dumb enough to brag about it.
Signature

lab~rat >:-)'

REPLY:  How did the Perpetrator learn his lesson out of curiosity ?

lab~rat  >:-) - 01 Sep 2006 14:11 GMT
>'I had my car keyed in High School for taking up two spots in a 2/3 full
>lot. Learned my lesson. So did the jackass that keyed my car and was
>dumb enough to brag about it.

I retaliated in kind.  Freakin' high school kids...
--
lab~rat  >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?
'Key - 01 Sep 2006 17:54 GMT
> On Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:06:11 -0500,
> Fast1970Vette@webtv.net (dave)
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> lab~rat  >:-)
> Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

what else would you expect from
"high school kids" ...

my2¢
Signature

"Key"
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dave - 31 Aug 2006 17:04 GMT
'Well, this is a really simple issue. It is either just a car, and you
park it like one, or it is way more than just a car to you, and your
options are slim, you don't take it to places you have to leave it
parked unattended.'

REPLY:  To me (and every other 'new' Vette owner that ive met), it is
not just a car and is much more. True, options are slim ;  I try not to
take it to places where it will be unattended for very long. But,  i do
take it to places where i might be away from it for up to 30 minutes.

'You asked a question Dave, there is my answer, with NO sarcasm or
hypocrisy.'

REPLY: ANd that i appreciate. Thanks.
Tom in Missouri - 04 Sep 2006 06:13 GMT
There are so many comments, I don't know where to begin.

Yes, Dave, I occasionally take up two spaces. Try parking a 23 ft long truck
in an 18 ft long space and see what happens.  Try it when you get a parking
lot made for compacts, i.e., 7 ft wide spaces instead of $8 ft, because some
smart architect discovered he could add 20 extra spaces in the same lot.
Also when they decide to use a 10 ft aisle instead of a 15, because again,
they can add more spaces in the same lot.

Show up with a trailer. You will have to take two spaces, or more.  A 24 ft
enclosed trailer is no way going to fit with tow vehicle in two spaces end
to end, so you end up out at the far edge taking about 4 spaces side by
side. Or occasionally you can take two end to end plus an aisle.

But as everyone has said, you put a Vette in two spaces, and no one will
like you. It is rude, self-centered, and illegal in some places.

Take your tin car instead. If you hadn't voted for mandatory insurance back
in 1985 in Illinois, you would afford to own a beater that you could license
for $48 a year and use it for only going to the mall once every few weeks.
Even insuring it, pre-mandatory insurance would have cost you about $60 for
a 15 year old beater. Post-mandatory insurance has driven that up to about
$400.

Or you could buy a bunch of touch up paint for the Vette.

> Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two parking spaces in
> a parking lot * PROVIDING they park quite a distance from  the place
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Thanks.
dave - 04 Sep 2006 17:54 GMT
'Take your tin car instead. '

REPLY:  Ive already decided to do exactly that ;  its just a shame that
people arent careful when you park something like a new Corvette in a
single space.  But thats the way the world has gone now isnt it ?
rob - 06 Sep 2006 12:48 GMT
>'Take your tin car instead. '
>
>REPLY:  Ive already decided to do exactly that ;  its just a shame that
>people arent careful when you park something like a new Corvette in a
>single space.  But thats the way the world has gone now isnt it ?    

Yes it is ashame.  People don't seem to nowadays respect each other's
property or each other's lives.  

You know, it just crossed my mind, if we are getting fatter as a
society, our car doors will have to open more inorder to get us out
and that means more chance of a ding on the parked car beside us
unless they widen the parking stripes.  Perhaps this is more reason
not to park your Corvette in any parking spot???
dave - 06 Sep 2006 16:49 GMT
'You know, it just crossed my mind, if we are getting fatter as a
society, our car doors will have to open more inorder to get us out and
that means more chance of a ding on the parked car beside us unless they
widen the parking stripes. Perhaps this is more reason not to park your
Corvette in any parking spot??? '

REPLY:  True.  Thats why i always park parallel to the curb whenever i
can.
'Key - 06 Sep 2006 19:33 GMT
> 'You know, it just crossed my mind, if we are getting
> fatter as a
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> curb whenever i
> can.

they should just make all car doors open upward :-)

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dave - 06 Sep 2006 21:11 GMT
'they should just make all car doors open upward :-)
Signature

"Key"'

REPLY: Agree. ANd i think there should be a Law that says if a
could-care-less person dings another persons car , then the Offender has
to shell out for Lambo Doors that go upward.

rob - 06 Sep 2006 12:40 GMT
>Just wondering if anyone with their Vette takes up two parking spaces in
>a parking lot * PROVIDING they park quite a distance from  the place
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>Thanks.


What's the logic in taking 2 spots far away from the store if there
aren't any cars around there?  And then regardless of the parking
stripes, someone can do the same thing and park next to you.  

I once had a metallic red car that I parked far away but within the
stripes and would you believe I had a guy park "real" close to me that
made it difficult for me to get into my car?  It was funny because
when you saw where I parked, it was sorta in the boonies relative to
the store front and yet here were two cars side by side.  Of course
even worst (if taking up two spots) is attracting too much attention
which in today's world seems to be bad attention which may translate
into keying.  You get the idea.  

And then further, there is the thought that if you worry that much
about the car, how can you really enjoy it?  Of course this is up to
the individual so I don't mean to criticize on this point.  I have
this problem too which is why I hate to buy new cars regardless what
they are.  Yeah, I buy them but unlike most people, don't enjoy it
that much.
dave - 06 Sep 2006 16:48 GMT
'What's the logic in taking 2 spots far away from the store if there
aren't any cars around there? And then regardless of the parking
stripes, someone can do the same thing and park next to you.'

REPLY:  Ill answer this question,even though ive decided NOT to take a
double parking spot and will most likely take my tin car if i have to
park for a long time. The rationale is simple :  You pay alot of hard
earned money for a brand new Corvette and you dont want anyone parking
next to you because of the increased could-care-less people out there
who would open their door(s) onto your car.  I repeat ...i have decided
NOT to double park with my new Vette.

'And then further, there is the thought that if you worry that much
about the car, how can you really enjoy it? '

REPLY:  I can enjoy the car immensely but i dont take pleasure in having
dings on it within a few months. I repeat...i have decided NOT to double
park with my new vette .
Tom in Missouri - 07 Sep 2006 08:14 GMT
ROFL.  I think the point they are trying to make, Dave, is that if there is
no one around, why park across the line?  There is no one next to you!

And second, if there is no one around, and you park across the line, there
is no other cars to prevent a guy parking right next to you if he wants.  He
has plenty of room to do so.

http://www.parkinglessons.com/

http://www.mistupid.com/pictures/page037.htm

http://www.lemonzoo.com/content/P/13213-content.jpg

http://media3.guzer.com/pictures/strange_truck_crash.jpg

http://www.mousepal.com/ParkPics/Indy%20Speedway%20parking.jpg

> 'What's the logic in taking 2 spots far away from the store if there
> aren't any cars around there? And then regardless of the parking
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> dings on it within a few months. I repeat...i have decided NOT to double
> park with my new vette .
Dad - 07 Sep 2006 14:32 GMT
> ROFL.  I think the point they are trying to make, Dave, is that if there is no
> one around, why park across the line?  There is no one next to you!
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
>> dings on it within a few months. I repeat...i have decided NOT to double
>> park with my new vette .

Those are funny but I'm not sure all of them were Dave. With his declaration
that he is giving us all a break and not taking up two spaces the world may now
stabilize. The only truly rude, but somewhat acceptable, parking scenario would
be one double parked in the handicapped spots at a psychiatric facility.

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Dad
05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
All presently parked correctly.

dave - 07 Sep 2006 23:25 GMT
'ROFL. I think the point they are trying to make, Dave, is that if there
is no one around, why park across the line? There is no one next to
you!'

REPLY:  Simple. There may be no one close to you when you double park,
but, within an hour there could be .

'And second, if there is no one around, and you park across the line,
there is no other cars to prevent a guy parking right next to you if he
wants. He has plenty of room to do so.'

REPLY:   If im double parked and someone else wants to park next to me
in a single space,  he would have plenty of room to do so with no chance
of him opening his car door against mine.

DISCLAIMER :  Please note !  Attention !  I hereby , from this moment
forward, will NOT double park my new Corvette . I will take my tin car
instead.  (any subsequent posts made by me are only hypothetical
situations).   Lastly,  Dad....Again, i hereby apologize to you and your
kin-folk for any offense i may have caused you .
Unquestionably Confused - 08 Sep 2006 16:31 GMT
dave, wrote the following at or about 9/7/2006 5:25 PM:
> 'ROFL. I think the point they are trying to make, Dave, is that if there
> is no one around, why park across the line? There is no one next to
> you!'
>
> REPLY:  Simple. There may be no one close to you when you double park,
> but, within an hour there could be .

And that's the point everyone is trying to make, I guess.  If you're
merely anal about your car when you park it, you become a rude a.shole 
an hour later when the lot fills up.

> 'And second, if there is no one around, and you park across the line,
> there is no other cars to prevent a guy parking right next to you if he
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> in a single space,  he would have plenty of room to do so with no chance
> of him opening his car door against mine.

Unless he decides to pimp you, which I suspect is what was being
suggested.  He just straddles the line of one of the two parking spaces
you're hogging and leaves you about six inches in which to open your
card door against his 1986 Ford F-150 with all the dents and rust on it.

Once had a guy from our office drive his nice new tin car Honda out to
the country club for a luncheon.  Not satisfied to merely park it in a
parallel slot, he took the last two out of the middle in a line of seven
spots. Unfortunately for him, the luncheon was late and by the time a
couple more of us arrived both the car behind him and the one ahead of
him were leaving.  We boxed him in and then stayed late for some b.s.ing
and drinks after the luncheon.  He, on the other hand, had a court
appearance up that afternoon for which he was a bit late since it took
him awhile to figure out whose cars were blocking him in and, of course,
it took us a bit to come out and move them.<G>

Bottom line is that people (and I KNOW you will never take up two
parking spaces so you can stop repeating that mantra) that take up two
parking spaces attract vandals who are somehow incensed by people who
feel that they are "more entitled" to real estate covered with asphalt
because they drive a nice car than the rest of the working stiffs who don't.

I try to park my 'Vette in an out of the way place or parallel park, but
the next time I take up two spaces with ANY car will be the first time.
dave - 08 Sep 2006 18:38 GMT
'And that's the point everyone is trying to make, I guess. If you're
merely anal about your car when you park it, you become a rude a.shole
an hour later when the lot fills up.'

REPLY:  A person wouldnt need to qualify as such, if others would have
respect for ones expensive and meaningful possesion.

'Unless he decides to pimp you, which I suspect is what was being
suggested. He just straddles the line of one of the two parking spaces
you're hogging and leaves you about six inches in which to open your
card door against his 1986 Ford F-150 with all the dents and rust on
it.'

REIPLY:  If youre parked on an angle taking up two spaces., he cant hit
your car door if he pulls straight in a space between the lines now can
he ?

'Bottom line is that people (and I KNOW you will never take up two
parking spaces so you can stop repeating that mantra) that take up two
parking spaces attract vandals who are somehow incensed by people who
feel that they are "more entitled" to real estate covered with asphalt
because they drive a nice car than the rest of the working stiffs who
don't.'

REPLY:  That may be the bottom line to the Disrespectors of others
personal property...however to the owner of a New Vette who has to live
in a world of undesirables (people who could care less), the bottom line
is protecting his/her investment. And it is  : 1. Not to look kew-wull
2. Not to rub it in  3.  Not be a smarty-pants and 4. Not to invite
trouble.
In this country of ever increasing degradation,  there are many steps in
which people protect their material investments :  Own guns , put up
fences , put triple locks on doors,  buy the wife a huge ring so others
are less inclined to hit on her, car alarms, outdoor cameras,
flootlights galore, et al.. ;   the world is filled with LawLess
individuals . One must take measures to protect themselves as well as
what they own.  

'I try to park my 'Vette in an out of the way place or parallel park,
but the next time I take up two spaces with ANY car will be the first
time.'

REPLY:   This is what i now try to do.  So again , as i concur with you
:  I hereby do not park double in a parking lot any longer and I am only
discussing this topic with hypothetical scenarios for the edification of
the NG.  And Dad,  i still hereby apologize to you and the Kin folk.
My Names Nobody - 08 Sep 2006 21:11 GMT
> 'Unless he decides to pimp you, which I suspect is what was being
> suggested. He just straddles the line of one of the two parking spaces
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> your car door if he pulls straight in a space between the lines now can
> he ?

Unless he is "just like you" entitled to ignore the lines and park at an
angle as you are. Right?
Tom in Missouri - 09 Sep 2006 05:59 GMT
Dave, you will find a lot more respect for your car out alone if you are
right in the middle of the space.

Park alone correctly and most will assume you simply don't want doors
smashed into yours.

Park at an angle or across two lines, and people instantly know you think
you are better than them.

And when you are parking a mile away from everyone, you open yourself to two
new threats:

1. Shopping carts. On a windy day, or if you are downhill, a cart can get
rolling pretty fast and make a lot of damage.  With no cars on either side
to protect you, you get hit.  I saw one once that the wind started it going
downhill, and must have been doing 30-35 mph when it hit the side of a new
car all the way out in nowhere.  Heck of a dent.  My first thought was the
poor lady telling her husband "Really, I parked at the far end away from
everyone!"

2. Car theft. All alone, away from everything, it is so easy to run a
rollback up and take you away.  And most people won't look twice. They will
assume you are a mile away because the car quit there last night or it died
and you coasted into the lot only that far.  Plus your car becomes highly
visible to anyone looking to remove it.  Hide it between two SUVs, and they
have to be right at your car to see it.

If you want it safe, park where the employees park. Often they park at the
far end or the far side lot. Find a space, you blend in, have shopping cart
protection, and no worries about them coming out and bashing a door while
you are in shopping.

> REPLY:  A person wouldnt need to qualify as such, if others would have
> respect for ones expensive and meaningful possesion.
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> discussing this topic with hypothetical scenarios for the edification of
> the NG.  And Dad,  i still hereby apologize to you and the Kin folk.
dave - 09 Sep 2006 20:37 GMT
'Dave, you will find a lot more respect for your car out alone if you
are right in the middle of the space.
Park alone correctly and most will assume you simply don't want doors
smashed into yours.
Park at an angle or across two lines, and people instantly know you
think you are better than them.
And when you are parking a mile away from everyone, you open yourself to
two new threats:
1. Shopping carts. On a windy day, or if you are downhill, a cart can
get rolling pretty fast and make a lot of damage. With no cars on either
side to protect you, you get hit. I saw one once that the wind started
it going downhill, and must have been doing 30-35 mph when it hit the
side of a new car all the way out in nowhere. Heck of a dent. My first
thought was the poor lady telling her husband "Really, I parked at the
far end away from everyone!"
2. Car theft. All alone, away from everything, it is so easy to run a
rollback up and take you away. And most people won't look twice. They
will assume you are a mile away because the car quit there last night or
it died and you coasted into the lot only that far. Plus your car
becomes highly visible to anyone looking to remove it. Hide it between
two SUVs, and they have to be right at your car to see it.
If you want it safe, park where the employees park. Often they park at
the far end or the far side lot. Find a space, you blend in, have
shopping cart protection, and no worries about them coming out and
bashing a door while you are in shopping.

REPLY:  Thanks Tom.  Good tips.  Ive decided not to take my new Vette to
parking lots if i can avoid it; ill take my tin SUV and still park it
quite some distance .

________________________________
"dave" <Fast1970Vette@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:26116-4501AA80-89@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net...
REPLY: A person wouldnt need to qualify as such, if others would have
respect for ones expensive and meaningful possesion.
REPLY: That may be the bottom line to the Disrespectors of others
personal property...however to the owner of a New Vette who has to live
in a world of undesirables (people who could care less), the bottom line
is protecting his/her investment. And it is : 1. Not to look kew-wull
2. Not to rub it in 3. Not be a smarty-pants and 4. Not to invite
trouble.
In this country of ever increasing degradation, there are many steps in
which people protect their material investments : Own guns , put up
fences , put triple locks on doors, buy the wife a huge ring so others
are less inclined to hit on her, car alarms, outdoor cameras,
flootlights galore, et al.. ;   the world is filled with LawLess
individuals . One must take measures to protect themselves as well as
what they own.
REPLY:   This is what i now try to do. So again , as i concur with you
    I hereby do not park double in a parking lot any longer and
I am only
discussing this topic with hypothetical scenarios for the edification of
the NG. And Dad, i still hereby apologize to you and the Kin folk.'
rob - 08 Sep 2006 16:47 GMT
>'ROFL. I think the point they are trying to make, Dave, is that if there
>is no one around, why park across the line? There is no one next to
>you!'
>
>REPLY:  Simple. There may be no one close to you when you double park,
>but, within an hour there could be .

The assumption here is that you leave within the time you think cars
will be closing in on your car.

>'And second, if there is no one around, and you park across the line,
>there is no other cars to prevent a guy parking right next to you if he
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>in a single space,  he would have plenty of room to do so with no chance
>of him opening his car door against mine.

But if you double park, the next car "may" choose to do the same and
therefore be parked right beside you as close as he chooses to be.
Remember that the lines aren't walls so anyone can park over a line as
is often the case with parked cars.  This is a matter of opinion (and
may depend on where you reside) but my opinion is that you attract
unnecessary attention when you double park especially with a well
waxed car.  Disclaimer:  this is only my opinion and not etched in
stone as gospel.
dave - 08 Sep 2006 18:45 GMT
'Simple. There may be no one close to you when you double park,
but, within an hour there could be .

The assumption here is that you leave within the time you think cars
will be closing in on your car.

REPLY:  Yes. If you are able to . This is a good idea.

'If im double parked and someone else wants to park next to me
in a single space, he would have plenty of room to do so with no chance
of him opening his car door against mine.'

But if you double park, the next car "may" choose to do the same and
therefore be parked right beside you as close as he chooses to be.
Remember that the lines aren't walls so anyone can park over a line as
is often the case with parked cars. This is a matter of opinion (and may
depend on where you reside) but my opinion is that you attract
unnecessary attention when you double park especially with a well waxed
car.'

REPLY: True, this is a distinct possibility of occuring.  And id be fine
with that . In fact, (before i made this original post), i parked next
to a very nice looking 1966 Chevelle that was parked on an angle taking
up 2 spaces toward the bottom of the parking lot.  I allowed alot of
room between the two cars.

'Disclaimer: this is only my opinion and not etched in stone as gospel.'

REPLY:  Disclaimer to the disclaimer :  It is only your opinion, but
since it sounds quite rational, etch it in concrete as gospel.
rob - 09 Sep 2006 04:51 GMT
>'Simple. There may be no one close to you when you double park,
>but, within an hour there could be .
[quoted text clipped - 26 lines]
>REPLY:  Disclaimer to the disclaimer :  It is only your opinion, but
>since it sounds quite rational, etch it in concrete as gospel.

Thank you as I'm flattered but perhaps there are others who disagree
and depending on where you live or park, they might be right.
Unfortunately I live on the outskirts of a major city and people seem
to care less what you drive or where you park (as disrespect) so if
you have a nice car, you better park it away for starters and pray
when you leave it.
Jim Henry - 17 Sep 2006 01:18 GMT
Dave,

I went to the theater a few months ago. Since I've seen the old ladies
hitting anything in the vicinity in the theater parking lot, I decided
to park in the pay lot across the street. I pulled in, and I was the
only car in the lot. There are at least 200 spots in the lot. When I got
back there were two of us. My car, and the one next to it.

I returned to the theater again a few weeks ago, and when I returned to
the lot, there were about 10 cars in it. Again, one was right next to mine.

I think that a lot of people have a herding instinct.

Regards,
Jim
Bob I - 17 Sep 2006 15:13 GMT
> Dave,
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> I think that a lot of people have a herding instinct.

You are certainly are dead on in that respect!

> Regards,
> Jim
John Moore - 07 Sep 2006 16:56 GMT
thats gay just drive the car it can be fixed.
 
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