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billccm - 02 Oct 2006 17:32 GMT
Hello All:

I have the oppurtunity to buy from the original owner a 1984 Corvette.
She has all the history and documents on the car, the original paint is
beautiful, the interior is pristine, everything works including the AC
and DELCO tape deck. She has the glass top and body color top. The car
just turned over 61K miles. Her husband joked that it has never been
driven in the rain, nor ran through a car wash. Color is light blue;
paint and body is pristine without a crack, chip, or blemish. It has
been driven by a mature women only. Never been in an accident.

My brother, who has owned a 1972, 1979, 1984, and 1989 Corvettes does
not have much good to say about the 1984, and does not like the Cross
Fire V8 at all. He claims that I would be better off with a high
mileage 1989 that needs work than a low mileage cream puff 1984 that
needs nothing for about the same price.

So, I am looking for a few opinions.

What is a realistic offering price for this car? I have been told
anywhere from $1400 to $5000 from the local Corvette club president
(who also believes that the 1984 is not a good car).

I have alwyas wanted a Corvette, and value this particuliar car due to
it's one owner, low mileage, and well cared for history. My wife has
been friends with this women for several years, so we trust what she is
telling us about the car. Most C4 Corvettes I have looked at are at
100K miles, or more, and need TLC and comestic repairs, and run in the
$6000 to $14000 range depending on the year.

Thanks for any inputs! Take care, and have  anice day,

Johnny
ZombyWoof - 02 Oct 2006 23:04 GMT
>Hello All:
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>Johnny

Listen to your brother or you may end up never listening to your wife
again.  Which I guess could have its upsides.
--

You can run, but you'll only die tired.

ZombyWoof
fweddybear - 03 Oct 2006 01:00 GMT
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> ZombyWoof

   Hi.... As an original owner of a 1984 vette.....I have kept the car
pristine also....mine is a 4 plus 3 tranny with only 22,000 original miles
on it.. .every thing works also and it has every option available at the
time I ordered it.... my opinion?? well it rides really rough.... you feel
every bump....it rides like a truck.... the good thing about it is the
stereo.... cept it doesnt have a cd player... just the cassette... lol...
remember those??  I ve got tons of cassettes....never had really any
problems with it, although I did have it repainted due to an accident.
Paint is not original, but repainted original color (2 tone
charcoal/grey).... Would I sell it?  not right now...but yes probably within
the next 8-10 yrs....oh .. i do drive it too...even has the orginal tires on
it... ugh...
   So.. I prefer to drive my caravan than the vette....its a more
comfortable ride... on the other hand.. a buddy of mine gets a new one every
two years... and yes the newer ones are much better than the older ones....
they are kinda getting out of the price range though...but better on
maintenance and the ride are greatly improved....

Fwed
WayneC - 03 Oct 2006 00:50 GMT
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> Johnny

Chevy sold a ton of these in 84, and I don't recall them all being denounced
as lousy cars at the time. Yes, the later models have a better fuel
injection and
a stronger transmission, and you may encounter difficulty finding someone
who can work on the crossfire (should that misbehave), but I don't think
there's
anything inherently wrong with an 84 as a boulevard driver. price guides
say the
car is probably in the $7k to $10k range...
http://www.manheimgold.com/car_lo.html

I'd suggest you buy it.
'Key - 03 Oct 2006 01:47 GMT
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> I'd suggest you buy it.

Price Line is sure different than NADA
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listen to your brother.

I also have an 84...
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Charlie - 03 Oct 2006 01:44 GMT
I had an 84 before my 93, I enjoyed it, would own another if I found the
right one.  It's a rougher ride, but handled magnificently.  Never had
problems with the cross-fire, but will admit that the TPI is better.  I'd
suggest you get it, you won't find many in that shape again.

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> Johnny
Crabs - 03 Oct 2006 02:02 GMT
> Hello All:
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> mileage 1989 that needs work than a low mileage cream puff 1984 that
> needs nothing for about the same price.
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Johnny:

Deciding to buy a Corvette is not something that you do with your mind
as much as you do with your heart.
If this car speaks to you, buy it.

Yes, it'll cost you more for upkeep than a Toyota or a Honda, but at the
end of the day, you'll be driving a Corvette, YOUR Corvette.
It probably won't be your last Corvette, but it will be your first, always.
Buy it and don't look back.
Don't expect to make a dime on it when and if you ever sell it.
This way you won't be disappointed if it is worth less when you pass it
along to the next owner, and pleasantly surprised if it's worth more.
At any rate, a Corvette IS NOT a wise investment financially speaking.
(unless you had a time machine and could go back to 1969 and buy one of
the only 2 Corvette ZL1's made, but I digress).

As that it's the first year for the C4 design, there were still bugs to
be worked out, and the design improved a great deal until '95 when it
was replaced with the C5.

The L83 350 engine was not a world class performer, HP was rated at
205hp @ 4300rpm with 290lb-ft torque. That can be improved somewhat with
bolt-ons, but to significantly improve performance requires heart and
lung transplant surgery.  Not trivial (or cheap), but certainly a handy,
mechanical kinda guy with lots of tools wouldn't find it too much of a
challenge.
The Doug Nash 4+3 transmission was not the greatest design, a lot of
people had problems with them while others did not. If it's never been
repaired or replaced then you may be one of the lucky ones.
The Crossfire fuel injection system was another problematic item, a lot
of people replaced them with newer FI systems or carburetor systems. If
you do take it off, box it up and store it away in a dark corner of your
garage. You'll want to keep it for the next owner, he may want to put it
back on. I've always liked the air cover lid, I think it looks really cool.

Good luck!
Welcome aboard.

TomC
'90ZR1 #792
billccm - 03 Oct 2006 05:40 GMT
Thanks for the replies and advice.

I am not looking for an 'investment', but rather a daily driver to
enjoy. I do not expect Honda reliability, but also cannot afford a car
that is constantly in the shop, either. I am pretty handy with my cars
such as belts, hoses, brakes, and maintenance, but high tech electronic
glitches do stump me (and many mechanics for that matter).

My idea was to get the car at a price that I could afford, and enjoy
it. If I bought a newer Corvette, for more money, I would constantly be
babying the car and probably would not enjoy it as much.

This car is an auto trans, so I need not worry about the 4+3 issues.

I just looked at eBay for completed listings on 1984 Corvettes with
less than 70K miles; most did not sell, or meet reserve even in the
$8,000 to $9,000 range. Then I see a few here and there that sold on
the $5,000 range I was thinking about $7,000, but now I am really not
sure what it is worth?

I am still thinking about the car; my brother is adamant that I run
away as fast as I can, and see some of you agree.

Thanks again for your time in your replies! Have a nice day,

Johnny

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> TomC
> '90ZR1 #792
ZombyWoof - 03 Oct 2006 14:24 GMT
>Thanks for the replies and advice.
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>Johnny

There are real good reasons that a lot of `84's have low milage.  They
have the harshest ride of all C-4's among their other flaws such as
the lowest HP of the series.  Take this one for a ride and then go
drive a 90's series.  The differences are obvious.

Like most cars in a series the first year model, especially those with
as great a re-do as the C3 to C4 transitions have bugs that need to be
worked out in successive model years.

While this particular vehicle maybe a good candidate to "Time Capsule"
I can assure you it is not a good candidate to become a daily driver.
Who knows what value time may bring to this car, but rest assured that
your bank account will devaluate quickly if you try to place it in
service as a daily driver.

Here is an example of a good candidate for a daily driver from e-bay
http://tinyurl.com/lw9zv @ 10k (+/-) for a `92 with 80,xxx and a
6-speed it will be a lot more fun and a lot less worries.  Plenty of
other examples are out there in the `89 - 92 range.  Such as
http://tinyurl.com/nznon with only 40k on the clock.  I'm sure
www.autotrader.com has plenty of examples in your local area as well.

In the end you're going to have to go with your heart, but if you
value your brothers advice you just might want to listen.  If price is
your only consideration remember that the expenditures are just
starting with the purchase price.
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You can run, but you'll only die tired.

ZombyWoof
Maddog - 04 Oct 2006 14:23 GMT
DO NOT BUY A 1984......better off with a 1985-87..which are also very very
cheap....I REPEAT DO NOT BUY A 1984....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! been there
done that and it was a BIG mistake.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
George - 09 Oct 2006 08:31 GMT
I've been there done that, looking for another. They're great! Least cost to
buy, and no less reliable than a Toyota.

Most problems people have with these are from their screwing with it and
trying to make it something it isn't.

Daily driver, sure. Race car, no.

I remember the night I brought my 84 home. Kept walking out to the garage,
looking, smile, back in the house...

I had a Vette, I didn't have a lease obligation, nor a mortgage on it. It
was all mine.

Johnny...this is your conscience speaking...buy it. You won't go wrong, and
if it has problems...sell it. And as for your brother...I wonder what he'd
say if it were his friend wanting to sell it.

-GeorgeC
RED/RED 92 C4 (with the gawd awful LT-1)

(BTW, there's one to really stay away from, the early 90's LT-1 engine)

> DO NOT BUY A 1984......better off with a 1985-87..which are also very very
> cheap....I REPEAT DO NOT BUY A 1984....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! been
> there done that and it was a BIG mistake.
> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CardsFan - 09 Oct 2006 20:34 GMT
> I've been there done that, looking for another. They're great! Least cost
> to
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> (BTW, there's one to really stay away from, the early 90's LT-1 engine)

What's wrong with the LT-1 other than the optispark?  Less that, pretty much
standard small-block Chevy, which is to say a thoroughly tested design.

AJM
'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
RicSeyler - 12 Oct 2006 21:32 GMT
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>standard small-block Chevy, which is to say a thoroughly tested design.
>  

The LT1 is a hell of an engine. Some have had OptiSpark issues, but
other than that its a great engine.
Now having said that if you are hot rodding an Gen2 LT1 it can get more
expensive because many parts
are specific to it.

>AJM
>'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
>
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George - 15 Oct 2006 19:00 GMT
I was specifically referring to the Opti-Spark.

Mine went out at about 125K. There just had to be a better way to do that.

Other than LT-1 valve noise(its a 92) it's been (knock on simulated wood
grain) fine. OK, alternator expired at 92K. No big deal, 20 minutes to fix.

The only real issue with my 92 was a failure of teh clear coat on the
drivers door and a spot on the hood. But it's a 15 year old car this month,
I'll make allowances.

But my point on the 84 is that for the money spent, its fun. And the
cross-fire is no big deal to make work right.

If a person wants to try the size out, and not spend a lot, its great. If
you aren't a motor-head, you may want to take out a mortgage on a newer
one.

But an 84 is something most can write a check for.

But sorry to mislead on the LT-1. It hauls fine. This one is still pretty
tight, passes Texas smog test with no issues.

-GeorgeC

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tww - 14 Oct 2006 22:49 GMT
> Thanks for the replies and advice.
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> such as belts, hoses, brakes, and maintenance, but high tech electronic
> glitches do stump me (and many mechanics for that matter).

You might want to consider a Honda S2000 if you want to avoid having "a car
..constantly in the shop." On the other hand, as a one-time Vette owner back
in the late 60s -- through the mid 70s I found the old C3s of that era
pretty reliable and relatively easy to work on. My 71 454 roadster was near
bulletproof -- wish I still had it when you consider I paid around 6,200 for
it new.

> My idea was to get the car at a price that I could afford, and enjoy
> it. If I bought a newer Corvette, for more money, I would constantly be
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> > '90ZR1 #792
Dad - 03 Oct 2006 15:04 GMT
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> Johnny

You and your wife should take it for a drive and if she likes it and you're
still interested then only the price should make up your minds. What other
people think will have nothing to do with how the car will treat you and yours.

Sure, there is always things that are changed to make a new model better and
that happened in '84 as well as any other year, first year or not. Yes, it is a
stiff ride and it has a unique injection system that has been pulling that car
around for 22 years, no reason it can't do it another 30 years.

If the cars turns the two of you on and you can do it without a high price it
can be a great pleasure car. Don't forget that it will need a garage to stay in
and lots of loving care.

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72 Shark Black/Black/4spd

Tom in Missouri - 03 Oct 2006 15:15 GMT
Many will denounce the '84 simply because it is the '68 Corvette of the C4.

A car in the condition you describe is always an intriguing buy.  But I take
exception to the "buy with your heart" comment someone made.  That is the
fastest way to get in trouble.

Arrange for you and your wife to drive it some day. Since they are friends,
maybe they would turn you loose with it for a few hours so both of you can
see just what you are getting into.  It will be stiff.  However, either most
who describe the ride are real pansies or they have never driven an older
Corvette.  My first drive in an '84 reminded me of a big block '67 or '68.
Not the power, the ride, the feel-every-pebble ride.  It really isn't much
different than most C2s and early C3s in ride.  But it may not be what you
or your wife want.

At the same time, arrange to drive some others within a few days for
comparison.

The Cross Fire is cursed by many, but really, there is nothing wrong with
it.  It just is not a performance injection system. It is basically the same
parts as most Chevy vehicles from the same time period up into the '90s with
the TBI, except there are two TBIs on a cross ram manifold that has poor
flow.

Most problems with the '84 are possible in most of the C4s - LCD display,
4+3, Bose, and so on.  So buying an '85 or 88 won't automatically protect
you.

And you know the history.  It is in great shape.  That is better than most
of what you find.

That said, the value on '84 is basically very low.  I don't know if they
will ever increase.  After all, they are 22 years old now, so it isn't like
we have to wait until they are old.  Hopefully your friend isn't expecting a
huge price.  It would have to be something like less than 5,000 miles or
still on the MSO for that.

I also agree that a daily driver is not what this car should be. Of course,
that depends on what you define as a daily driver. A friend had a '72
convertible as a daily driver up until 4 years ago.  But he worked across
the street from his house. Now he works 8 miles from home, and a '68 Chevy
pickup is his daily driver. The Corvette is the evening and weekend car.

I wouldn't suggest a 20 mile one-way commute each day in rush hour traffic.
For one, those 61,000 miles will rapidly become 100,000.

I also wouldn't suggest modifying it. While most do to make the '84 perform,
the value of this car will be its present condition.  Any changes, excessive
miles, body changes, engine changes, etc, will just drop the value unless
you do something like drop $20,000 into creating a Pro Street or some such
out of it.

Good luck.

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billccm - 04 Oct 2006 15:42 GMT
Good thread, and I do value all of the opinions! It seems the tally is
to pass on this car. The seller is in no hurry, nor am I as a buyer. I
have offered to help her sell the car, either on eBay, and/or locally.
She wants someone who will take care of it, and in a way, really wants
someone she knows to buy the car. It has been her babied pride and joy
for almost 22 years, and I don't blame her for wanting to see someone
she knows get the car. On the other hand, she is expecting top dollar
for this car, and she is in for a disapointment when we start revieiwng
the market values for this car. I think locally she might get $6,500,
and eBay will be a crap shoot between $5,000 and $8,000?

Harsh ride is not an issue for me (my favorite car so far has been a
1985 Shelby Charger that I drove 14 years and put 111k miles on it).
Relibility is an issue for me, though. I do not need Honda relibility,
but also cannot tolerate expensive repairs (BTW, I drive Chrysler and
Chevy cars daily, never owned a Honda, but hear it is total bliss).

My only reasoning for this particuliar car is that I value the owner's
history and low miles. The car is almost a time capsule survivor kind
of car, and I thought I could justify buying a less desired year 1984
due to this cream puff's history.

Cars are emotional, and I understand the buy with your heart comments,
but the emotion can swing both ways when you buy a car that becomes a
money pit immediately. I have always wanted a Corvette, and good things
come to those who wait. I'll keep shopping.....

Thank you all again for your time and comments.

Johnny

> Many will denounce the '84 simply because it is the '68 Corvette of the C4.
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> > Johnny
'Key - 05 Oct 2006 02:10 GMT
> Good thread, and I do value all of the opinions! It seems
> the tally is
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> get $6,500,
> and eBay will be a crap shoot between $5,000 and $8,000?

if the car is what you have said it was ?
she shouldn't sell it to someone else less than NADA.
High Retail  $14.8K
http://tinyurl.com/k2oyg
in about 8 years, the first C4 in that type shape should
bring a lot more $$$$'s...

> Harsh ride is not an issue for me (my favorite car so far
> has been a
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> Johnny

I at first said to listen to your brother,
but the more you talk about this car, It does sound like a
cream-puff.
you really are not going to find many 84's in that shape.
most are in the poor shape because someone didn't maintain
to car as they should have.
sounds like your friend has done the proper maintaince.
Fred C. Dobbs - 05 Oct 2006 14:20 GMT
>Many will denounce the '84 simply because it is the '68 Corvette of the C4.
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>Good luck.

Tom in Missouri has given the best answer.
Having bought an 84 with less than 60k miles on it back in 2000 kept
it 3 years . It was my first Corvette. Since then I have 98 and a
2005.
Do you want to know something. My Wife and I think about going out to
find another 84.
Why? Because it is one of the best values out there. It is a Fun Car
Everybody stays away from them because of all the dimwitted answers
you heard here. But let me tell you something.
Of course the ride is a little harsh.  What do you expect from a car
that for it's time has a suspension that is set up as close as you can
get to a race car and still drive it on the street. It sticks to the
road like glue. Not unlike an old Chevy Blazer or Ford Bronco but more
fun to drive.    Do not forget that at the time it came out it was the
most critically acclaimed car of its day. It set the bar very high for
handling after years of Corvettes being kind of a joke.  When I was a
kid of the 64 Sting Ray was a marvel and I like many others fell in
love it. I wanted to own a Vette when I got older. But by the time I
could afford one, they were toothless. Just a shadow of its former
self. The 84 C4 was a new kind of Vette. A clean slate, a Modern Vette
and an Engineering Marvel.  Think back of what other cars were around
at that time that had any kind of appeal. The Datsun Z? it too was a
shell of it's former self. A Toyota Supra, Please give me a Break.
This car was being compared to Porsche's 911 and was coming out ahead
for the First time.
So to all you snobby nay-sayers out there I say "Laugh it up
Fuzzballs"  Keep the prices low. That will make owning a Corvette
affordable for a newbie.   I'll keep looking and maybe I will find
another 84 in good condition cheap and buy it so my wife and I can go
out and have fun.
Fred C. Dobbs - 05 Oct 2006 14:42 GMT
>>Many will denounce the '84 simply because it is the '68 Corvette of the C4.
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>another 84 in good condition cheap and buy it so my wife and I can go
>out and have fun.

Fixed my reply to make a little more sense
Bob G. - 05 Oct 2006 14:29 GMT
Actually I find the 1984 to be an interesting car in that it was the
first of the NEW BREED "world class" Corvettes ...

The ride was harsh...and it was harsh because it was meant to be
Firm...real firm !   ajust turns out that many people would rather had
the car handle a tad less so their own personal rear end was more
comfortable... so GM softened it up in 1985.

The cross fire engine is fine...really not a big deal in my opinion...
and I never heard of many 82 owners who complained about misfiring >>>
the big drawback is that there are not alot of after market bold on
suppliers who supply parts for the engine...

Personally I would not mind buying a 84....if it were low milage and
in very very good shape... BUT NOT AS A DRIVER... not even as a fun
car to take out in the evening on the local twisties and relieve my
tensions ..  The deal maker for me would be if it had the original
tires with the indented lettering...and that darn star wars dash
better work .. LOL

Bob G.
fweddybear - 05 Oct 2006 18:44 GMT
ok.. so make me an offer ( I can't refuse)....minse still have the original
tires...

Fwed

> Actually I find the 1984 to be an interesting car in that it was the
> first of the NEW BREED "world class" Corvettes ...
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> Bob G.
tww - 06 Oct 2006 13:28 GMT
> Hello All:
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> Johnny

Concur with you assessment of prices for early C4s.  Mid 80s with around
100k miles in the mid GA area per Auto-Trader have asking prices around
ranging 10 -15k.An 85 with 2400 miles had an asking prices of 19. If you can
find something nice at a good price, I would jump on it.
RicSeyler - 12 Oct 2006 22:19 GMT
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I don't know if I'd buy a 2400 mile '84 for 19 grand..... There is a lot
of things that deteriorate
with age. Not with mileage or use. Dunno. I just don't think I would. I
think I would look for
a decent c5 iffin I was out to spend 19K.

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truebluebowtie - 15 Oct 2006 15:47 GMT
Makes me think I'm not asking enough for the mint 87 I have for sale with
18,000 miles.
ssome - 08 Nov 2006 21:29 GMT
The first year of a new model is always the most valuable 30 yrs in the future

ssome

 tww wrote:

 
Hello All:

I have the oppurtunity to buy from the original owner a 1984 Corvette.
She has all the history and documents on the car, the original paint is
beautiful, the interior is pristine, everything works including the AC
and DELCO tape deck. She has the glass top and body color top. The car
just turned over 61K miles. Her husband joked that it has never been
driven in the rain, nor ran through a car wash. Color is light blue;
paint and body is pristine without a crack, chip, or blemish. It has
been driven by a mature women only. Never been in an accident.

My brother, who has owned a 1972, 1979, 1984, and 1989 Corvettes does
not have much good to say about the 1984, and does not like the Cross
Fire V8 at all. He claims that I would be better off with a high
mileage 1989 that needs work than a low mileage cream puff 1984 that
needs nothing for about the same price.

So, I am looking for a few opinions.

What is a realistic offering price for this car? I have been told
anywhere from $1400 to $5000 from the local Corvette club president
(who also believes that the 1984 is not a good car).

I have alwyas wanted a Corvette, and value this particuliar car due to
it's one owner, low mileage, and well cared for history. My wife has
been friends with this women for several years, so we trust what she is
telling us about the car. Most C4 Corvettes I have looked at are at
100K miles, or more, and need TLC and comestic repairs, and run in the
$6000 to $14000 range depending on the year.

Thanks for any inputs! Take care, and have  anice day,

Johnny

   
Concur with you assessment of prices for early C4s.  Mid 80s with around
100k miles in the mid GA area per Auto-Trader have asking prices around
ranging 10 -15k.An 85 with 2400 miles had an asking prices of 19. If you can
find something nice at a good price, I would jump on it.

 
 I don't know if I'd buy a 2400 mile '84 for 19 grand..... There is a lot of things that deteriorate
 with age. Not with mileage or use. Dunno. I just don't think I would. I think I would look for
 a decent c5 iffin I was out to spend 19K.

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dave - 08 Nov 2006 23:51 GMT
'The first year of a new model is always the most valuable 30 yrs in the
future
 
ssome
'

REPLY: Its usually the most problematic (at the time it comes out) too.
dave - 08 Nov 2006 23:52 GMT
'The first year of a new model is always the most valuable 30 yrs in the
future
 
ssome
'

REPLY: Its usually the most problematic (at the time it comes out) too.
Tom in Missouri - 09 Nov 2006 13:44 GMT
The answer is simple - don't buy the first year when new.  Give them 4 or 5
years to find the bugs, fix them, and then buy it used.

Does anyone really think '53s, '63s, '68s, '84s, and '97s are running around
with the production issues they had today?

First, any daily driver at the time would have had the dealer fix under
warranty all the bugs and goofs in the first year or two.  Second, any
restored car would have had those issues fixed.

'The first year of a new model is always the most valuable 30 yrs in the
future

ssome
'

REPLY: Its usually the most problematic (at the time it comes out) too.
billccm - 24 Nov 2006 03:54 GMT
Well, I saw the owner today after church, and I may make an offer soon.
I'll keep you guys psoted. Happy Thanksgiving. Bill

> The answer is simple - don't buy the first year when new.  Give them 4 or 5
> years to find the bugs, fix them, and then buy it used.
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> REPLY: Its usually the most problematic (at the time it comes out) too.
 
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