 |
 | Home | Contact Us | FAQ | Search & Site Map | Link to Us |
 | Sign In | Join | Other 45 Sites in Network |
Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Corvette / November 2006Mini Petrol Powered Corvette 'Go-Kart' For Sale (7ft Long) On UK Ebay
Hi There, I am selling, on behalf of a family member, a Mini Petrol Powered Corvette You can sit in it and it will run at about 22 mph It has never been run or used but has been in storage for over 10 years. It is listed on ebay and can be found using the following link http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Mini-Petrol-Powered-Corvette-Go-Kart-Style-Car-7ft-Long_W0 QQitemZ120055945178QQihZ002QQcategoryZ9883QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Happy bidding if you are interested and thank you in advance for looking. Ian > Hi There, > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Ian Wonder why you would put that on ebay and not list shipping to the US of A. Much bigger market and would assume a much better price. Also the assumption that it is a 1996 missed the mark by about 6 years. > > Hi There, > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > > > It is listed on ebay and can be found using the following link <snip spam> > > Happy bidding if you are interested and thank you in advance for looking. > > > > Ian > Wonder why you would put that on ebay and not list shipping to the US of > A. Much bigger market and would assume a much better price. Are you right in the head? - The cost of shipping would be more than the toy is worth. > Also the assumption that it is a 1996 missed the mark by about 6 years. How so? - The C4 (I think - can anyone confirm it's a C4?) Corvette had a very long production span. From 1983 to 1996, ISTR.  SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >> > Hi There, >> > [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > Corvette had > a very long production span. From 1983 to 1996, ISTR. there was no 1983 corvette.. Signature"Key" ===== >> > Hi There, >> > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Are you right in the head? - The cost of shipping would be more than the > toy is worth. No, I'm not right in the head, I'm talking to you, ain't I? I also shipped to and from the UK on a regular basis and the "toy" as you call it is worth about $1000 used in the US. Unless they rip you off on packaging it's still a good buy at the $70us that is bid and I'd go much more. That's why it would help if the shipping cost was stated. http://www.metropartsmarket.com/catalogs/image_minicar_1_62931.html >> Also the assumption that it is a 1996 missed the mark by about 6 years. > > How so? - The C4 (I think - can anyone confirm it's a C4?) Corvette had > a very long production span. From 1983 to 1996, ISTR. You need to get your head out of your a.s and take a look at it. Hint, notch back and vertical gills. No 1983 Corvettes were produced. Now back in your hole I must apologize for not paying attention and cross posting to other news groups. Never meant to bring the fools out of the woodwork. >> How so? - The C4 (I think - can anyone confirm it's a C4?) Corvette had >> a very long production span. From 1983 to 1996, ISTR. > > No 1983 Corvettes were produced. Nice one. Not too many people know that, and as a result, it's a good pub bet. Bonus points for knowing why. > >> How so? - The C4 (I think - can anyone confirm it's a C4?) Corvette had > >> a very long production span. From 1983 to 1996, ISTR. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bonus points for knowing why. But it's completely wrong. The car was produced in 1983, but sold as a 1984 model. HTH. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >> >> How so? - The C4 (I think - can anyone confirm it's a C4?) Corvette had >> >> a very long production span. From 1983 to 1996, ISTR. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > >The car was produced in 1983, but sold as a 1984 model. So, show me a Corvette with 1983 on its title. There were none. Most of not all of the Corvettes that GM built in 1983 were crushed. Do you know why? ExtraSuperBonusQuestion: GM in the USA recently started selling a new engine in their Impala range. The engine has a notable "first," feature, not just for GM, but for any engine maker. It's not necessarily a forward step... Anyone else know what it is? >>> >> How so? - The C4 (I think - can anyone confirm it's a C4?) Corvette >>> >> had [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > feature, not just for GM, but for any engine maker. It's not > necessarily a forward step... Anyone else know what it is? it can run on ethanol or petrol On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:44:08 GMT, "mrcheerful ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote: >> ExtraSuperBonusQuestion: GM in the USA recently started selling a new >> engine in their Impala range. The engine has a notable "first," >> feature, not just for GM, but for any engine maker. It's not >> necessarily a forward step... Anyone else know what it is? > >it can run on ethanol or petrol Nope. Like I said, it's not necessarily (or at all) a forward step in engine development, though it is definitely a significant first. Someone I know just bought one, and when he told be what it was I bet him there was no such thing, and I lost a dollar in the process. > On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:44:08 GMT, "mrcheerful > ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Someone I know just bought one, and when he told be what it was I bet > him there was no such thing, and I lost a dollar in the process. What was it then? ..and don't say displacement on demand. >On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:44:08 GMT, "mrcheerful >." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >engine development, though it is definitely a significant first. > Variable displacement? Like the ole '81 Cadillac V8/6/4? >Someone I know just bought one, and when he told be what it was I bet >him there was no such thing, and I lost a dollar in the process. > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson "RicSeyler" <ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net> wrote in message > Variable displacement? Like the ole '81 Cadillac V8/6/4? > >Someone I know just bought one, and when he told be what it was I bet > him there was no such thing, and I lost a dollar in the process. Just looked it up - the variable displacement motor was not only in the V8-6-4 but is also a feature of the Dodge Hemi since 2004, on the Mercedes V-12 in the 1990's, and on more recent Hondas. Of note is that some manufacturers turn off entire banks of cylinders and others turn off opposing cylinders. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > "RicSeyler" <ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net> wrote in message >> Variable displacement? Like the ole '81 Cadillac V8/6/4? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > some manufacturers turn off entire banks of cylinders and others turn off > opposing cylinders. <cross-posting trimmed> Are you saying the cylinders do not operate at all, or that no fuel is fed into them and so they do not combust? AJM >> "RicSeyler" <ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net> wrote in message >>> Variable displacement? Like the ole '81 Cadillac V8/6/4? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Are you saying the cylinders do not operate at all, or that no fuel > is fed into them and so they do not combust? You have to refer that to Dad. I don't have a clue how they do it. If they just shut off fuel; then what would happen on the exhaust stroke? Is it possible it stops the function of the valves themself? Signature_____________________________________________ "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." >> Ronald Reagan, 1911-2004 SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:44:08 GMT, "mrcheerful > ." <nbkm57@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Someone I know just bought one, and when he told be what it was I bet > him there was no such thing, and I lost a dollar in the process. Hmmm, can't see anything on the website other than the active fuel management stuff which shuts down unneeded cylinders but that's not new. Gonna give us a clue? Tim >>>> ExtraSuperBonusQuestion: GM in the USA recently started selling a >>>> new engine in their Impala range. The engine has a notable "first," >>>> feature, not just for GM, but for any engine maker. It's not >>>> necessarily a forward step... Anyone else know what it is? >> Someone I know just bought one, and when he told be what it was I bet >> him there was no such thing, and I lost a dollar in the process. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Gonna give us a clue? Variable valve timing. ...on a pushrod engine. Fourth paragraph here: http://www.automedia.com/2006/Chevrolet/Impala/rts20051001ci/1/ >>>>> ExtraSuperBonusQuestion: GM in the USA recently started selling a >>>>> new engine in their Impala range. The engine has a notable "first," >>>>> feature, not just for GM, but for any engine maker. It's not >>>>> necessarily a forward step... Anyone else know what it is? >>> Someone I know just bought one, and when he told be what it was I bet >>> him there was no such thing, and I lost a dollar in the process. >>Hmmm, can't see anything on the website other than the active fuel >>management stuff which shuts down unneeded cylinders but that's not new. >> >>Gonna give us a clue? > Variable valve timing. > > ...on a pushrod engine. Somebody's still making pushrod lumps...? FFS! >Somebody's still making pushrod lumps...? FFS! Yep. Even GM's top of the line LS7 Corvette motor is a 16 valve pushrod. Mind you, it does crank out 505 hp and 475 ft/lb of torque. >> Somebody's still making pushrod lumps...? FFS! > > Yep. Even GM's top of the line LS7 Corvette motor is a 16 valve > pushrod. Mind you, it does crank out 505 hp and 475 ft/lb of torque. Now that is a nice engine, pushrods or not. Mmmmm. >> >> How so? - The C4 (I think - can anyone confirm it's a >> >> C4?) Corvette had [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > HTH. Officially, There were no 1983 Corvettes. There were forty seven 1983 Corvettes made but none were ever sold. The National Corvette Museum has the only 1983 known at this time. The new Corvette plant in Bowling Green, KY closed in October of 1982 to begin retooling for the 1984 Corvette. Production began in January of 1983 and the press received their first view of the 1984 Corvette in January of 1983. In February, the first production 1984 Corvettes were sold to the public. In March of 1983, the 1984 Corvette officially went on sale in the United States, except for California and a month later, in April, the 1984 Corvette went on sale in California. By October of 1983, the plant was in full speed production. Trivia: Pop music singer "Prince" released the song, "Little Red Corvette". Signature"Key" ===== > Officially, There were no 1983 Corvettes. There were forty > seven 1983 Corvettes made but none were ever sold. The [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Trivia: Pop music singer "Prince" released the song, > "Little Red Corvette". forgot the reference. http://tinyurl.com/y2k9hn Signature"Key" ===== >> >> How so? - The C4 (I think - can anyone confirm it's a C4?) Corvette had >> >> a very long production span. From 1983 to 1996, ISTR. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > HTH. So what you're saying is that there was no 1983s built, isn't that what was stated? Had to be the first time the new model was built ahead of its model year, or does that happen every year? Must be the car makers aren't doing it right, should they build 1984s and sell them in 1982? How can it be said in a manner that will make you right? > > But it's completely wrong. > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > right, should they build 1984s and sell them in 1982? How can it be said in a > manner that will make you right? It's due to the f.cked up way the Merkins market cars. Around the middle of the year, most makers start selling cars as the current year+1 model year cars. eg. Audi will quite happily sell you a 'model year 2007' A6 as early as August 2006. Hence, there were Corvettes built in 1983, but they were the '1984 model year' cars, even though produced in 1983. The rest of the world doesn't feel the need to have a 'model year' to make themselves feel good. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >Hence, there were Corvettes built in 1983, but they were the '1984 model >year' cars, even though produced in 1983. > >The rest of the world doesn't feel the need to have a 'model year' to >make themselves feel good. Quite. We Brits just have the *registration* year prominently displayed on our cars, front and rear, to make us feel good and our friends and neighbours jealous. >> Hence, there were Corvettes built in 1983, but they were the '1984 model >> year' cars, even though produced in 1983. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > displayed on our cars, front and rear, to make us feel good and our > friends and neighbours jealous. Err. Mine are S and T. How does that make my neighbours jealous? ;-) >>> Hence, there were Corvettes built in 1983, but they were the '1984 model >>> year' cars, even though produced in 1983. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Err. Mine are S and T. How does that make my neighbours jealous? You obviously need to buy two new cars. You're lowering the tone of the neighbourhood. >>>> The rest of the world doesn't feel the need to have a 'model year' >>>> to make themselves feel good. >>> Quite. We Brits just have the *registration* year prominently >>> displayed on our cars, front and rear, to make us feel good and our >>> friends and neighbours jealous. >>Err. Mine are S and T. How does that make my neighbours jealous? > You obviously need to buy two new cars. You're lowering the tone of > the neighbourhood. What the hell am *I* doing, then, with my fleet? Parked outside at the house :- N (96) E (88) V (80) G (69) In garages :- X (82) M (73) pre-suffix (62) damn my newest car is an L reg >>>>> The rest of the world doesn't feel the need to have a 'model year' >>>>> to make themselves feel good. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > M (73) > pre-suffix (62) >>>>> The rest of the world doesn't feel the need to have a 'model year' >>>>> to make themselves feel good. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > M (73) > pre-suffix (62) or mine: no reg year bikes times two B reg (first time)1964 Viva H reg trials bike (unique) K reg (first time)1972 times two Cortina and a Shilton (the only one ever made. P reg (first time)1976 Land |Rover V reg (first time) times two 1979 Ferari and Suzuki bike W reg first time 1981 Metro Y reg (first time) times two 1982 Metro and a camper C reg at the beginning times two 1985 XR4x4 and Van E reg at the beginning 1987 Van N reg at the beginning 1995 Metro P reg at the beginning 1995 Lexus oh god, I am a pikey. Mrcheerful mrcheerful. (nbkm57@hotmail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : > P reg at the beginning 1995 Lexus > > oh god, I am a pikey. Indeed. Illegal plates. Very naughty... P started Aug '96. > mrcheerful. (nbkm57@hotmail.com) gurgled happily, sounding much like > they were saying : [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > P started Aug '96. mis-type, it is actually a 1997 (just) When it came to me it had a L reg on the front and a p on the back, the guy had taken off his vanity plates from one end only!!! the land rover is the best: it is an historic vehicle as it was built in 1972, but was not registered till 1976 mrcheerful Sorry for the cross post, but this registration thing really seems wacky. It isn't in order according to the years that have been posted. Letter - Sequence Year - Posted Years F - 67 - G - 68 - 69 H - 69 - - I - 70 - - J - 71 - - K - 72 - - L - 73 - - M - 74 - 73 N - 75 - - O - 76 - - P - 77 - - 76 Q - 78 - - R - 79 - - S - 80 - - T - 81 - - U - 82 - - V - 83 - 80 W - 84 - - 81 X - 85 - 82 Y - 86 - - 82 Z - 87 - - A - 88 - - B - 89 - - C - 90 - - 85 D - 91 - - E - 92 - - 87 F - 93 - - G - 94 - - H - 95 - - You will notice there is a discrepancy in the M, V, W, X, and W tags. I was there in '82 so I know that X should be an '82.Most likely I and O are not issued, as confusion with numbers. But that still leaves big holes in P through V. Also, I had an M-reg and it was registered 19/07/74, so how is M a '73? I also had an H-reg and it was build in '69 and registered in '69, so it wasn't a '70. >>>>>> The rest of the world doesn't feel the need to have a 'model year' >>>>>> to make themselves feel good. [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Mrcheerful > Sorry for the cross post, but this registration thing really seems wacky. > [quoted text clipped - 83 lines] >> >> Mrcheerful The years originally started at january the first but got changed at about d reg to august. so most of the letters have a possible two year date. Without looking things up I can't remember every year of every car I own. They did miss out I, Z, and O, Q is only used on undateable oddball stuff. originally the letter was at the end, then at the beginning. When at the beginning there is further confusion as the later letters changed every 6 months. AAAAAARGHH too many possibles mrcheerful > I was there in '82 so I know that X should be an '82.Most likely I and > O are not issued, as confusion with numbers. But that still leaves big > holes in P through V. Also, I had an M-reg and it was registered > 19/07/74, so how is M a '73? I also had an H-reg and it was build in > '69 and registered in '69, so it wasn't a '70. The letter changed (for the most part) on the 1st August... A-suffix (ABC123A) came in on 1/1/63, and continued through to 31/12/63 E was a short one - 1/1/67 to 31/7/67, and F started the 1st August dates. I,O,Q,U,Z weren't issued. It turned around to A-prefix on 1/8/84, and continued through until they moved to a twice-yearly system with T on 1/3/99. Since then, it's been 1/3 and 1/9 as the change dates. After Y-prefix, it moved to the current scheme - AB51CDE - where the two digits tell you when it was registered. 51 was the first, starting on 1/9/01, then 02 started 1/3/02, 52, 03, 53, 04 - take the two digit year for a summer plate, add 50 for a winter plate. That'll see us through to 2049... Q-prefix was (and still is) issued, but to vehicles of indeterminate age - kitcars, write-offs rebuilt using a second hand shell, etc. > It turned around to A-prefix on 1/8/84, Because the E suffix ran for less than a year, I think the A prefix actually started from 1/8/83. Chris SignatureRemove prejudice to reply. > It turned around to A-prefix on 1/8/84, and continued through until they > moved to a twice-yearly system with T on 1/3/99. Since then, it's been 1/3 > and 1/9 as the change dates. Or you could say that S reg was the first of the 6-monthly prefixes - obviously not quite, but it certainly didn't last a year. > After Y-prefix, it moved to the current scheme - AB51CDE - where the two > digits tell you when it was registered. 51 was the first, starting on > 1/9/01, then 02 started 1/3/02, 52, 03, 53, 04 - take the two digit year > for a summer plate, add 50 for a winter plate. That'll see us through to > 2049... Aye, there's nothing like proper future-proofing. Signature"For want of the price of tea and a slice, the old man died." The message <Xns98839CBBE7DA0adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170> from Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> contains these words: > A-suffix (ABC123A) came in on 1/1/63, and continued through to 31/12/63 A wasn't a full year. The scheme didn't start till 1/2/63. SignatureRoger Chapman > The message <Xns98839CBBE7DA0adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153.244.170> > from Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> contains these words: > >> A-suffix (ABC123A) came in on 1/1/63, and continued through to 31/12/63 > > A wasn't a full year. The scheme didn't start till 1/2/63. A and B were only used in Middlesex so I believe , E was the short year from 1 Jan to the 31st of August. Now we can all start a heated discussion on the letter sequences , for example JA and DB are often given as Greater Manchester, but were actually allocated to Stockport Cheshire. Of course theres also the Nortern Ireland numbers that use all the letters like I and Z that we didnt use on the mainland. steve the grease >>>> Hence, there were Corvettes built in 1983, but they were the '1984 >>>> model [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You obviously need to buy two new cars. You're lowering the tone of > the neighbourhood. Me too, mine are 54 for the car and 05 for the bike. I feel a right pikey. SignatureDan Formerly DanTXD > > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >The car was produced in 1983, but sold as a 1984 model. > PFFFFFFTTTTTT Co'mon man that was a lame attempt to save face. Find a Vette title that states it's an '83. >HTH. > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson > Find a Vette title that states it's an '83. Easy. That'll be any UK registered (in fact, probably any non-US- registered) Corvette that was first registered between 1/1/83 and 31/12/83. Next. > RicSeyler (ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net) gurgled happily, sounding much like >> Find a Vette title that states it's an '83. > > Easy. That'll be any UK registered (in fact, probably any non-US- > registered) Corvette that was first registered between 1/1/83 and > 31/12/83. Registration date <> model year. http://www.idavette.net/facts/83.htm 1983 Corvette Officially, There were no 1983 Corvettes. There were forty seven 1983 Corvettes made but none were ever sold. The National Corvette Museum has the only 1983 known at this time. The new Corvette plant in Bowling Green, KY closed in October of 1982 to begin retooling for the 1984 Corvette. Production began in January of 1983 and the press received their first view of the 1984 Corvette in January of 1983. In February, the first production 1984 Corvettes were sold to the public. In March of 1983, the 1984 Corvette officially went on sale in the United States, except for California and a month later, in April, the 1984 Corvette went on sale in California. By October of 1983, the plant was in full speed production. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Not quite true. On each car is a VIN. This determines model year, not registration. In fact, on the examples of British number plates in another part, some had registered later than the car was built. And if you import a car, does it become the model of the year it was imported? For example, you import a '67 Corvette in 1983, so it becomes a 1983 Corvette? My British title for my Lotus doesn't say what year the car is, only what date it was registered. The model year is determined by the manufacturer, Lotus. >> RicSeyler (ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net) gurgled happily, sounding much like >>> Find a Vette title that states it's an '83. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > California and a month later, in April, the 1984 Corvette went on sale in > California. By October of 1983, the plant was in full speed production. The message <u6a9h.2307$ql2.1099@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> from "Tom in Missouri" <toomuch@spam.com> contains these words: > My British title for my Lotus doesn't say what year the car is, only what > date it was registered. The model year is determined by the manufacturer, > Lotus. I don't know whether the system has changed since but from 1st January 1970 Lotus used the calendar year and month of manufacture as the first 4 digits of the identification number so there wouldn't be this nonsense about cars being sold prior to the start of their 'model year'. SignatureRoger Chapman >>> Find a Vette title that states it's an '83. >> Easy. That'll be any UK registered (in fact, probably any non-US- >> registered) Corvette that was first registered between 1/1/83 and >> 31/12/83. > Registration date <> model year. Tough, it does over here. There is no such concept as "model year" on a UK registration document - or in the UK generally. Get over your parochialism. >Get over your parochialism. That's a nice little pot-kettleism. Got any more like that? >>Get over your parochialism. > That's a nice little pot-kettleism. Got any more like that? <shrug> I'm not the one claiming the entire world conforms to the bureaucracy of one country. The statement was that there were no "titles" anywhere for '73 Corvettes. There are. Just not in the US. >>>Get over your parochialism. > >> That's a nice little pot-kettleism. Got any more like that? > ><shrug> I'm not the one claiming the entire world conforms to the >bureaucracy of one country. I don't think Snappo was claiming that, either. >The statement was that there were no "titles" anywhere for '73 Corvettes. No. He didn't say that, either. Go on, jerk your knee again. >>The statement was that there were no "titles" anywhere for '73 >>Corvettes. '73, '83, whatever. > No. He didn't say that, either. >>> Find a Vette title that states it's an '83. As I said. Easy. Any V5 for any 'vette that was first registered between 1/1/83 and 31/12/83. The vast majority of other countries worldwide, if you don't particularly want to use the UK for whatever reason. >>>The statement was that there were no "titles" anywhere for '73 >>>Corvettes. > >'73, '83, whatever. I was letting your typo go. He didn't make that claim for '83 Corvettes. >> No. He didn't say that, either. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >1/1/83 and 31/12/83. The vast majority of other countries worldwide, if you >don't particularly want to use the UK for whatever reason. I think you've lost track of who you're quoting and who you're trying to lambaste. I was responding to your response to Snappo. Go back and re-read the dialogue... >> Registration date <> model year. > > Tough, it does over here. Does it? How does that work then? IIRC when I worked at Vauxhall the model year was related to a batch of changes, not the registration. I can't remember the date the new model year tended to start, but I think it was the end of the summer holiday. There are plenty of 92 model year cars registered as late as 94. In fact there are usually so many new examples of the outgoing models in stock that you can get the old model for more than a year after the new model is introduced. Witness the number of '02 Astra G/Bs on 03, 53, and even 04 plates. > There is no such concept as "model year" on a UK registration document - or > in the UK generally. Bullshit. The manufacturers have a model year. I know from first hand experience that GM use them and IIRC they are not 01 Jan - 31 Dec. > Get over your parochialism. Patronising w.nker. >> There is no such concept as "model year" on a UK registration >> document - or in the UK generally. > Bullshit. The manufacturers have a model year. I know from first hand > experience that GM use them and IIRC they are not 01 Jan - 31 Dec. And where on a V5 would that be found? >>> There is no such concept as "model year" on a UK registration >>> document - or in the UK generally. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > And where on a V5 would that be found? WTF has the V5 got to do with it? If GM didn't make any '83 model year 'vettes then there aren't any. Period. IF one was registered in the UK in 83 then it'd be an 82 or earlier model on a Y-suffix or A-prefix plate or maybe an early 84 model year (or later) on an A-prefix plate. As Snappo said: Registration date <> model year. Registration date DOES NOT EQUAL model year for the hard of understanding. If you bought a new 'vette in 83 it was the 82 model year car. It is possible that they launched the '84 model before the end of 83 - as I said I can't remember when GM model years start - so there could be an 84 registered in 83. Because... REGISTRATION DATE DOES NOT EQUAL MODEL YEAR And once more to ram it home:- REGISTRATION DATE DOES NOT EQUAL MODEL YEAR > And once more to ram it home:- > > REGISTRATION DATE DOES NOT EQUAL MODEL YEAR But there were Corvettes made in 1983, it's just that they were marketed as 1984 'model year' cars. That was all I originally claimed, if you look back - ISTR I said something along the lines of 'the C4 ran from 1983 to 1996' which is factually correct. I don't give a flying f.ck about some Merkin 'model year' shite. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >>>> There is no such concept as "model year" on a UK registration >>>> document - or in the UK generally. >>> Bullshit. The manufacturers have a model year. I know from first >>> hand experience that GM use them and IIRC they are not 01 Jan - 31 >>> Dec. >> And where on a V5 would that be found? > WTF has the V5 got to do with it? Simple. The question related to the title claiming a car was an '83 Corvette. The V5 is our equivalent of the "title". We have no official concept here of the age of a car other than the first registration date. > If GM didn't make any '83 model year 'vettes then there aren't any. > Period. I think you mean "Full stop". > IF one was registered in the UK in 83 then it'd be an 82 or earlier > model on a Y-suffix or A-prefix plate or maybe an early 84 model year > (or later) on an A-prefix plate. You continue to miss my point - the V5 would not say it was a 1982 or 1984 car, it would say it was a 1983 car. > And once more to ram it home:- THERE IS NO CONCEPT OF MODEL YEAR ON UK "TITLES" (or V5s as we call 'em). DVLA don't give a flying f.ck what some 'merkin salesmuppet flogged the damn car as twenty years ago. > Simple. The question related to the title claiming a car was an '83 > Corvette. The V5 is our equivalent of the "title". [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I think you mean "Full stop". Not especially. Not according to Chambers, anyway. > > > You continue to miss my point - the V5 would not say it was a 1982 or 1984 > car, it would say it was a 1983 car. No it wouldn't. It would say date of first registration: dd/mm/1983. This does not imply a 1983 car, just that it was first registered. The VIN or chassis number can be cross referenced with the manufacturer to determine what 'model year' they built and when they built it. My point being that the 'model year' is wholly a manufacturer's classification so that they can match the right parts and configuration. The difference between 81 and 82 may only be the position of the heater fan switch or it could be a whole new design. The fact is, the manufacturer will decide what makes the new model year which is in no way related to the date of registration except that the designated registration cannot indicate a newer year than the car was built. >> And once more to ram it home:- > > THERE IS NO CONCEPT OF MODEL YEAR ON UK "TITLES" (or V5s as we call 'em). > > DVLA don't give a flying f.ck what some 'merkin salesmuppet flogged the > damn car as twenty years ago. No there isn't and no they don't. So you agree your statement "Tough, it does over here." with regard to "Registration date <> model year" is false then? The point you appeared to be trying to make, and forgive me if I can't make complete sense of your deranged ramblings, is that because the UK log book does not record a manufacturer's model year as the US title does, then there is no such concept of model year in the UK. I contend there IS, it's just not recorded by the DVLA on the log book. A 1994 Vauxhall Cavalier is still a 1994 Vauxhall Cavalier whenever it was registered. Vauxhall, if you ask them, will still regard it as a 1994 model year even if you, Adrian, do not believe they exist. > The point you appeared to be trying to make, and forgive me if I can't > make complete sense of your deranged ramblings, is that because the UK log > book does not record a manufacturer's model year as the US title does, > then there is no such concept of model year in the UK. His point is entirely clear, and no, you don't understand it. Your analysis above is wrong. > I contend there IS, it's just not recorded by the DVLA on the log book. A > 1994 Vauxhall Cavalier is still a 1994 Vauxhall Cavalier whenever it was > registered. Vauxhall, if you ask them, will still regard it as a 1994 > model year even if you, Adrian, do not believe they exist. The original statement being referred to was about 'title'. That title is the V5. The manufacturer's concept of "Model year" is _completely_ irrelevant to the title. Ie you're continuing to miss Adrian's point in a rather amusing fashion, whereas I suspect he's known yours even before you began to present it. clive >> The point you appeared to be trying to make, and forgive me if I can't make >> complete sense of your deranged ramblings, is that because the UK log book [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > clive That cleared that up, the title is a 1983, the car is still a 1984. Today we give thanks for being free of the loony British rule, well kinda, more on that July 4th. > That cleared that up, the title is a 1983, the car is still a 1984. > Today we give thanks for being free of the loony British rule, well > kinda, more on that July 4th. I agree. And like I said: Model Year <> First Registration. To change the subject for a moment - is it fairly safe for me to put two sets of clubs in the back of my new C6? Can I just put a nice soft blanket down or something and be perfectly fine? I don't want to damage anything. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> You continue to miss my point - the V5 would not say it was a 1982 or >> 1984 car, it would say it was a 1983 car. > No it wouldn't. It would say date of first registration: dd/mm/1983. > This does not imply a 1983 car, just that it was first registered. Which is as close to the age of the car as the paperwork gets. > The VIN or chassis number can be cross referenced with the > manufacturer to determine what 'model year' they built and when they > built it. IF that manufacturer happens to use the concept of a Model Year. Which not all do. > My point being that the 'model year' is wholly a manufacturer's > classification so that they can match the right parts and > configuration. Right - and therefore irrelevant to the registration details, which is what I've been saying all along. (Apart from in the US, where the title DOES state the MY - even when it's irrelevant, because the manufacturer doesn't use it.) >>> And once more to ram it home:- >> THERE IS NO CONCEPT OF MODEL YEAR ON UK "TITLES" (or V5s as we call >> 'em). >> >> DVLA don't give a flying f.ck what some 'merkin salesmuppet flogged >> the damn car as twenty years ago. > No there isn't and no they don't. Thank you. And the original challenge was to find a Corvette TITLE - which we call a V5 - that says it's a 1983. Simple. All Corvettes first registered in 1983 will say they're 1983 cars. They won't say that it's an '82 or an '84 car. Because it isn't outside of some internal specification tracking designation. > The point you appeared to be trying to make, and forgive me if I can't > make complete sense of your deranged ramblings, is that because the UK > log book does not record a manufacturer's model year as the US title > does, then there is no such concept of model year in the UK. The fact that no Corvette V5 says that GM call it an '83MY is irrelevant - because no V5 will say that any car is whatever MY - no '94 Chavalier V5 will call it a Vectra A or a Cavalier Mk3 - and just as no V5 for a Citroen or Peugeot will give the RP number, which is how PSA track model/part fitment changes (to the production day). The fact that amanufacturer refers to their production changes in a certain arbitrary way is irrelevant outside the US-centric concept of the Model Year. I couldn't give a flying f.ck if GM called any 'vettes 1983 or 1845 or whatever. They're still overpowered ill-handling barges solely desirable to the chestwig brigade. > And the original challenge was to find a Corvette TITLE - which we call > a V5 - that says it's a 1983. Simple. All Corvettes first registered in > 1983 will say they're 1983 cars. They won't say that it's an '82 or an > '84 car. Because it isn't outside of some internal specification > tracking designation. Just a bunch of backward a.s dumb f.cks that cannot drive on the RIGHT side of the road... Look at the vin and enter it here and you will not find one that comes up as an 83... http://www.analogx.com/CONTENTS/vinview.htm ZÿRiX (com@net.org) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying > Just a bunch of backward a.s dumb f.cks that cannot drive on the RIGHT > side of the road... Quite. Still, we won't hold that against you. > > And the original challenge was to find a Corvette TITLE - which we call > > a V5 - that says it's a 1983. Simple. All Corvettes first registered in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > an 83... > http://www.analogx.com/CONTENTS/vinview.htm Jesus f.cking christ. What is so hard to understand about this? Year of manufacturer may or may not equate to your 'model years'. Just as neither of these may or may not relate to the year of registration. You do realise that a 'model year 1984' car may well have been manufactured sometime in 1983? - which is my point. I'll just type it again for the terminally stupid Yanks: 'The C4 Corvette was *MANUFACTURED* between 1983 and 1996' - please note that this is an entirely separate issue to the 'model year' - a manufacturer, if they wished could call a car made this year (that's 2006, just to remind you) a '2008 model year'. Coming to think of it, they could say it was any f.cking model year they desired as it doesn't really make any difference. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >>>And the original challenge was to find a Corvette TITLE - which we call >>>a V5 - that says it's a 1983. Simple. All Corvettes first registered in [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > they could say it was any f.cking model year they desired as it doesn't > really make any difference. Which was my point entirely. >> And the original challenge was to find a Corvette TITLE - which we >> call a V5 - that says it's a 1983. Simple. All Corvettes first [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > comes up as an 83... > http://www.analogx.com/CONTENTS/vinview.htm That's why we kicked their a.ses in 1776 and 1812. They walked on the wrong side of the trial and wore "sissy red". LOL Corvette is an American car and they had model years which were not equal to production dates. It is laughable that some people in UK are arguing that the date it was registered determines the model year. If that is true; they got 90% of the years wrong on their registrations; as General Motors often starts building in a way that does not conform to the calendar year. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > Corvette is an American car and they had model years which were not equal > to production dates. It is laughable that some people in UK are arguing > that the date it was registered determines the model year. Um - nobody's arguing that at all. If you think they are, then you've missed the point rather well. clive >> Corvette is an American car and they had model years which were not >> equal to production dates. It is laughable that some people in UK [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Um - nobody's arguing that at all. If you think they are, then you've > missed the point rather well. With all due respect, I am calling *bullshit* on this: From the thread: >All Corvettes first registered in 1983 will say they're 1983 cars. They >won't say that it's an '84 car. " >> Registration date <> model year. > Tough, it does over here. > There is no such concept as "model year" on a UK registration" Signature_____________________________________________ "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free." >> Ronald Reagan, 1911-2004 SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > >All Corvettes first registered in 1983 will say they're 1983 cars. They > >won't say that it's an '84 car. " Which is 100% true over here. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >>> Corvette is an American car and they had model years which were not >>> equal to production dates. It is laughable that some people in UK [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > With all due respect, I am calling *bullshit* on this: You'd be wrong. HTH. >From the thread: > >>All Corvettes first registered in 1983 will say they're 1983 cars. They >>won't say that it's an '84 car. " Talking about the title - ie the V5. Yes, that's entirely correct. Note that's not your concept of 'model year'. >>> Registration date <> model year. >> Tough, it does over here. >> There is no such concept as "model year" on a UK registration" I'll concede slight carelessness on Adrian's part there. He wasn't actually saying Registration date = model year, he was saying registration date = year on title - which was what the rest of the relevant message is referring to. ie >>> Find a Vette title that states it's an '83. is easy, contrary to what you have been arguing. Just think, if you'd not been so obsessed about model year that you completely missed the original point, you wouldn't have had to go through all this argument... clive > Just think, if you'd not been so obsessed about model year that you > completely missed the original point, you wouldn't have had to go > through all this argument... I can do one better. I can put you in my killfile and write you off as a moron who doesn't know that American cars in America fall into a category called "model year". See - problem solved. Don't forget to get in the last word - don't let my not being able to see it slow you down in the least. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > Just think, if you'd not been so obsessed about model year that you > > completely missed the original point, you wouldn't have had to go [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > last word - don't let my not being able to see it slow you down in the > least. 'La, la, la, I'm not listening' Bury your head in the sand, that's the usual Yank way of dealing with stuff they don't understand or agree with. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # > 'La, la, la, I'm not listening' > > Bury your head in the sand, that's the usual Yank way of dealing with > stuff they don't understand or agree with. Only if they can't find a way to bankrupt it, bribe it, invade it, blow it up or otherwise destabilise and take it over... >> 'La, la, la, I'm not listening' >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Only if they can't find a way to bankrupt it, bribe it, invade it, blow it > up or otherwise destabilise and take it over... Now that I can agree with, we took up some of the traits from jolly old England and sadly they were not all good. I do have a problem when one limey says we bury our heads in the sand and the next one says we have our fingers in everything? Would that suggest that you both go both ways? >> Just think, if you'd not been so obsessed about model year that you >> completely missed the original point, you wouldn't have had to go [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a moron who doesn't know that American cars in America fall into a > category called "model year". Um - everybody who's been arguing with you knows that. Seems like you still don't understand the point being made. > See - problem solved. Don't forget to get in the last word - don't > let my not being able to see it slow you down in the least. There goes a very sore loser... clive >> Just think, if you'd not been so obsessed about model year that you >> completely missed the original point, you wouldn't have had to go >> through all this argument... > I can do one better. I can put you in my killfile and write you > off as a moron who doesn't know that American cars in America fall > into a category called "model year". See - problem solved. Don't > forget to get in the last word - don't let my not being able to see > it slow you down in the least. Oh, good-oh. Does that mean I can write you off as a 'merkin who has no clue that the US is not the entire civilised world? (Whether it's even a part of it or not depends on your point of view...) >>> Just think, if you'd not been so obsessed about model year that you >>> completely missed the original point, you wouldn't have had to go [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > (Whether it's even a part of it or not depends on your point of > view...) I know my view... ..anyway, I think we *all* knew about model years in the US from the start. It was the USians failing to understand that the US isn't the whole world that took time... strange, that. snip > I know my view... > > ..anyway, I think we *all* knew about model years in the US from the start. It > was the USians failing to understand that the US isn't the whole world that > took time... strange, that. I love it, we were talking about and American automobile that is assigned a model year by the manufacture and then changed by a system that meets a government's need to tax. Sort of like a baby being born and then has the birthday as the date he was adopted. The system seems to work in the states, and the English system works for the surfs in their shriveling empire. What more could you ask for? Get over the fact that we're not the same in as many ways that we are. Why do you people hate so much, is it the boot marks on you a.s the makes you strike out at people? Sad to be English but glad to be German/Irish with a little Crow Indian thrown in to keep the English traits in check. In news:X7mdndDaE6_6qfbYnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@bright.net, Dad <knockers@fisher.net> wittered on forthwith; > snip >> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > we are. Why do you people hate so much, is it the boot marks on you > a.s the makes you strike out at people? Boot marks on our "a.s"? That's rich from a resident of a country that has *never* won a war without help. You didn't even get independance without help from the French. > Sad to be English but glad to be German/Irish with a little Crow > Indian thrown in to keep the English traits in check. I'm always amused by the way that residents of Merkinland will harp on about how great Merkania is, throw bits of US Edition Revisionist History about, then proudly state that they're descended from the Irish. My garden wall is older than your nation, and has quite probably won more wars. SignaturePete M - Using the Scouse Side of the Force - <space vacant> Mercedes 190E Auto OMF#9 Ok, I admit it, I like Renault 5s. Pete M (pete.murray@bogoffwithzepressedmeatblueyonder.co.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying : >> Get over the fact that we're not the same in as many ways that we are. The irony is rather delicious, isn't it? >> Why do you people hate so much, is it the boot marks on you a.s the >> makes you strike out at people? > Boot marks on our "a.s"? I don't even have an a.s. Don't get me wrong - I like Donkeys, and really enjoyed a visit to the sanctuary down in the SW the other year, but I just don't have anywhere to keep one. > My garden wall is older than your nation, and has quite probably won > more wars. Y'know what they say - The UK - where 200 miles is a long way. The US - where 200 years is a long time. > In news:X7mdndDaE6_6qfbYnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@bright.net, > Dad <knockers@fisher.net> wittered on forthwith; [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Boot marks on our "a.s"? Hard to tell which end that is? How many countries, (colonies), have you been kicked out of? > That's rich from a resident of a country that has *never* won a war without > help. You didn't even get independance without help from the French. Re-read what I said, no mention of us doing anything autonomously and most assuredly we are what the English made us, thank you. Remember, we can't do anything ourselves. Let me know which war you won by yourself, was it the war on dental plaque? >> Sad to be English but glad to be German/Irish with a little Crow >> Indian thrown in to keep the English traits in check. > > I'm always amused by the way that residents of Merkinland will harp on about > how great Merkania is, throw bits of US Edition Revisionist History about, > then proudly state that they're descended from the Irish. Actually I never said anything about America being anything, see how bitter you are? Also never said I was proud of being Irish just glad to see another English woman screwed by an Irishman. > My garden wall is older than your nation, and has quite probably won more > wars. And I'm sure it's gathering intelligence at the same rate you are, which should improve with more age by your analogy. > >> The system seems to work in the states, and the English system works > >> for the surfs in their shriveling empire. What more could you ask [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Hard to tell which end that is? How many countries, (colonies), have you been > kicked out of? We've done the civilised thing and come to amicable arrangments to hand back our stolen territories to their rightful owners. You lot would be utterly *f.cked* in the Gulf without UK support, just as you were last time. Whilst we're on the subject - why is it that in the UK controlled areas of Iraq things have settled to such an extent that we are planning an exit strategy, whereas the US controlled areas have descended into annarchy and civil war? SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # > > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >annarchy and civil war? > You just have to look at the "Geniuses" we have running and making the decisions on our side of it.. Same one's that touted "Stockpiles of WMD" "Slam Dunk", "Mission Accomplished", "Last Throughs of the Insurgency" and the golden nugget "Could take up to a year". Don't blame anything on our brave troops, they aren't the ones calling the shots, just trying to get this thing accomplished with the "leadership" they have. SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson Dad can you give me some insight on these codes? Do I have a computer going bad? or just alot of problems? codes that were pulled B0432 B2588 B2593 B2597 B2721 B2723 B0503 B0508 SignatureZÿRiX (¯`'..(<>..<>)..'´¯) > That's why we kicked their a.ses in 1776 and 1812. They walked on the wrong > side of the trial and wore "sissy red". LOL You've not done too well recently, though, have you? Lost in Vietnam (although you insist on calling it a tied match), bailed out by the UK in Gulf War I and you've f.cked up big time in Gulf War II. > Corvette is an American car and they had model years which were not equal to > production dates. It is laughable that some people in UK are arguing that > the date it was registered determines the model year. If that is true; > they got 90% of the years wrong on their registrations; as General Motors > often starts building in a way that does not conform to the calendar year. No-one said that the year of manufacture determined model year. Just that they're 2 totally unrelated facts. Hence, GM built many thousands of Corvettes in 1983. Please note the term 'built' because that's the important word here. SignatureSteveH 'You're not a real petrolhead unless you've owned an Alfa Romeo' www.italiancar.co.uk - Honda VFR800 - Hongdou GY200 - Alfa 75 TSpark Alfa 156 TSpark - B6 Passat 2.0TDI SE - COSOC KOTL BOTAFOT #87 - BOTAFOF #18 - MRO # - UKRMSBC #7 - Apostle #2 - YTC # >> That's why we kicked their a.ses in 1776 and 1812. They walked on the wrong >> side of the trial and wore "sissy red". LOL > >You've not done too well recently, though, have you? |
Enable EMail Alerts
Start New Thread
Reply to this Message