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Beat Your Speeding Ticket and Beat the System
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xtlpppyfuiiv@yahoo.com - 02 Dec 2006 11:40 GMT If you think paying a $150 fine is the end of your worries, then this must be your very first speeding ticket. Paying the fine is only HALF the punishment. Wait till you see your insurance rate increase by as much as 50% (that's about $350 or more per year for the next three years). Oh yeah, did I forget to mention points on your record and the loss of your license?! A recent study shows that the average speeding ticket will cost a person $1,200 over the course of 3 years! Yes, that's One Thousand Two Hundred American Dollars, for ONE speeding ticket! If the thought of losing $1,200 for going a few miles over the speed limit doesn't make you go stark raving mad, then may I suggest you leave this website now and mail in your check. The government thanks you for your cooperation and will be visiting you again soon for more. For the rest of you who work too damn hard to let that kind of money go to waste, then please keep reading. Right now you can have access to information less than .01% of the population has. Within FIVE minutes you can begin reading what is being called The Speeding Ticket Bible! http://speedingva.blogspot.com/#
No Vette Yet - 02 Dec 2006 16:26 GMT >If you think paying a $150 fine is the end of your worries, then this >must be your very first speeding ticket. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >called The Speeding Ticket Bible! >http://speedingva.blogspot.com/# I didn't read this but I think from experience, it's cheaper and fairly easy to just go to defensive driving class which by the way can be done online (at least for the first ticket). Also I remember getting adjunct judification (a little fuzzy on the terms now) for a speeding ticket a long time ago but I had to go to court to get it.
Keith - 03 Dec 2006 14:38 GMT Or even better, deferred adjudication (probation) so that it never even shows up. Remember, insurance companies figure that the only reason you took defensive driving was to get out of a ticket, and they may raise your rates for that!
Dad - 03 Dec 2006 15:57 GMT > Or even better, deferred adjudication (probation) so that it never even > shows up. Remember, insurance companies figure that the only reason you > took defensive driving was to get out of a ticket, and they may raise > your rates for that! My insurance company doesn't use a speeding ticket for revenue enhancement. They are a true insurance company not a money machine out to build tall buildings and fat cats. Your state laws and the faux insurance companies are some of your problems.
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BottleBob - 04 Dec 2006 02:47 GMT > My insurance company doesn't use a speeding ticket for revenue enhancement. They > are a true insurance company not a money machine out to build tall buildings and > fat cats. Your state laws and the faux insurance companies are some of your > problems. Dad:
How many insurance companies are NOT in business to make a profit?
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Dad - 04 Dec 2006 03:28 GMT >> My insurance company doesn't use a speeding ticket for revenue enhancement. >> They [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > How many insurance companies are NOT in business to make a profit? Not sure there are any, but I'll say it again, my insurance company is NOT about revenue enhancement, fat cats, and tall buildings. Are they in business to make a profit, sure, that's not my point at all. Some are in business to make huge profits, saleable stocks, bottom line, and some are still insurance companies that really do share the financial burden from a loss. Those that make an increase in premiums for all the reasons that are available and deny claims for chicken sh.t reasons are profit centers, not insurance companies.
BottleBob - 04 Dec 2006 03:46 GMT > "BottleBob" <bottlbob@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > Dad: > > > > How many insurance companies are NOT in business to make a profit?
> Not sure there are any, but I'll say it again, my insurance company is NOT about > revenue enhancement, fat cats, and tall buildings. Are they in business to make [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > increase in premiums for all the reasons that are available and deny claims for > chicken sh.t reasons are profit centers, not insurance companies. Dad:
So don't keep me in suspense, what is your insurance company's name?
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Dad - 04 Dec 2006 04:09 GMT > Dad: > > So don't keep me in suspense, what is your insurance company's name? Not sure the name will do you any good in CA. as it's a local called German Mutual.
BottleBob - 04 Dec 2006 04:29 GMT > > Dad: > > > > So don't keep me in suspense, what is your insurance company's name?
> Not sure the name will do you any good in CA. as it's a local called German > Mutual. Dad:
I don't recall mentioning I was from CA. Don't tell me you actually went to my home page. LOL
Anyway, thanks for giving your insurance company's name. I'm not really in the market for a new insurance company, as I use Liberty Mutual. Back in '97 I had an accident with my 6 months old '96 Vette (SUV turned left right in front of me), Liberty Mutual gave me a new car without any complaint when I requested it, even though they *could* have pushed to have my existing damaged car fixed since it wasn't a complete total. Just for THAT, I'll probably stay one of their customers for quite some time.
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PJ - 04 Dec 2006 05:35 GMT >>> Dad: >>> [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > total. Just for THAT, I'll probably stay one of their customers for > quite some time. Most mutuals, like Dad's, return any net profits, once reserves and re-insurance costs are met, to their members. Since mutuals, and their sisters--the Insurance Associations, resemble the non-profit business model they might be thought of as non-profits. Most seldom advertise but work through memberships or a close network of low-margin agents. Those agents don't get sales commissions but some receive service fees and additional payments for claims processing. Fraternal organizations sometimes affiliate with a mutual and secure a good deal for their members.
Once an Association or Mutual starts advertising and paying sales commissions, the good deal for the members is on the way to being over. (JMO).
Most private agents, unless asked, won't initiate placement of a policy with a mutual--the commissions from the 'for-profits' are their bread and butter. If you see a 'mutual company' sign in an agency ask about it. Associations are afinity organizations and those also offer pretty good rates. GEICO started out as an association, got mismanaged then Warren Buffet bought it and it's now a for-profit (very much so.)
Let's see, to be more specific, you might be somewhere near Six-Flags, Magic Mountain -- maybe closer to Santa Clarita. However, I'm more often wrong that right. {;-)
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Dad - 04 Dec 2006 15:22 GMT >> > Dad: >> > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I don't recall mentioning I was from CA. Don't tell me you actually > went to my home page. LOL I loved your page, (shows you how desperate some people get), as a retired manufacture research engineer all things mechanical and/or machined fascinates me. Started NC programming on a Burgmaster DHT25 in 1963. Had a secretary that could read the tape by pulling it through her fingers, and a nice set on top of her talent. Spent most of a week in the Skunk Works as technical advisor for installation of a new 7 liter oxygen system to extend their flight time on the SR71 in the early '70s. Also worked with the guy that built the system for Greg Breedlove's record setting run for the land speed record. That had to much visibility so the higher ups were elbowing the underlings out, me included. Long time ago but very interesting company to work with and I stayed there 35 years.
My insurance company has replaced an Olds, the front end on my '98, (deer), and a speeding ticket on the '05. No change in rates or classification. Actually they don't insure my '72 because they were not priced as well as some of the collector companies. About 80% of an insurance companies worth is the agent and mine hangs in there for me, been with him 20 years.
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CardsFan - 04 Dec 2006 15:28 GMT >>> > Dad: >>> > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > elbowing the underlings out, me included. Long time ago but very > interesting company to work with and I stayed there 35 years. Was that maybe Craig Breedlove, and which car? The one that crashed? I used to keep up on those runs quite closely, but I couldn't tell you what the record is today...
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Dad - 04 Dec 2006 15:53 GMT Snip
> Was that maybe Craig Breedlove, and which car? The one that crashed? I used > to keep up on those runs quite closely, but I couldn't tell you what the > record is today... > > AJM > '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops) Could well have been, didn't look it up and was only involved in the pneumatic valveing that was used. The poster hung in our lobby when he set the record and then in our department for months after that. Not even sure if he held it very long, and it was not his last car as I remember.
CardsFan - 04 Dec 2006 16:32 GMT > Snip >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the record and then in our department for months after that. Not even sure > if he held it very long, and it was not his last car as I remember. I remember there being two "Spirit of America" cars. I did a quick lookup and found this:
http://www.landspeed.com/learn.asp
I remember Arfons and Breedlove trading the record. Things quieted down for years and I lost interest.
AJM '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
RicSeyler - 04 Dec 2006 16:54 GMT > > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >years and I lost interest. > I completely remember watching those when I was a kid. I also remember when his chute failed and he launched it into the lake at the end of the runway.
>AJM >'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops) > >
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CardsFan - 04 Dec 2006 17:55 GMT CardsFan wrote:
"CardsFan" <me@here.com> wrote in message news:el1er7$d55$1@mailhub227.itcs.purdue.edu... Snip Was that maybe Craig Breedlove, and which car? The one that crashed? I used to keep up on those runs quite closely, but I couldn't tell you what the record is today...
AJM '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops) Could well have been, didn't look it up and was only involved in the pneumatic valveing that was used. The poster hung in our lobby when he set the record and then in our department for months after that. Not even sure if he held it very long, and it was not his last car as I remember. I remember there being two "Spirit of America" cars. I did a quick lookup and found this:
http://www.landspeed.com/learn.asp
I remember Arfons and Breedlove trading the record. Things quieted down for years and I lost interest. I completely remember watching those when I was a kid. I also remember when his chute failed and he launched it into the lake at the end of the runway.
He also turned a telephone pole into toothpicks.You must have been a *Popular Mechanics* subscriber too. :-)AJM'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
RicSeyler - 04 Dec 2006 22:52 GMT > > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >>You must have been a *Popular Mechanics* subscriber too. :-) LL My dad was forever! Plus ABC's Wide World of Sports. Remember the Ski Jumper intro? LOLOLOL
>>AJM >>'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
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