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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Corvette / December 2006Meguiars spray on wax ??
is it any good ? anyone use it ? I have swirl marks when i look at my car (77' vette, black) in the sunlight. It makes me wince... just thought I'd try some of this and wanted to know if anyone has used it yet. thanks AP Meguiar's has many great products. Personally, I'm using the liquid NXT for my base 'wax'. But, you need to get rid of the swirl marks before you apply any wax. You might want to invest in a polisher that they sell rather than do it all by hand. Check out their forum for more help and tips: http://www.meguiarsonline.com/ >is it any good ? >anyone use it ? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >thanks >AP >Meguiar's has many great products. Personally, I'm using the liquid >NXT for my base 'wax'. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >>thanks >>AP Ok, here is my secret recipe for washing my car. Don't tell anyone <grin> but I developed it about 4 years ago after piecing together what I read on the net. I only wish I thought of it sooner. It will probably make your car need a lot less wax (but I'd still wax). I can't give you exact quantities but I don't think too much will hurt the car finish. I use a decent car wash soap (ie: Meguiars is fine), vinegar (guessing about 1/2 cup) and "Jetdry" (4 or 5 squirts) into a bucket of water and wash. Note: where I live, the water is very hard; I don't know if vinegar and Jetdry need to be both used but I do it and am very satisfied with results. Then I use the same minus the soap into a garden sprayer (less vinegar and less Jetdry mixed with water in attachment) attached to my water hose to rinse the car. Then I dry it with decent cotton rags (tho by this time it needs little). The result is my newer cars (3 of them, oldest is about 3.5 years old and isn't garaged ever and we have HOT summers) need less waxing and the wax goes on / off easier. They shine as nearly as when they left the dealer. And the water just seems to stay repelled off the paint finish even to this day. And I looked real hard in the sun at the 3.5 year old car (solid white color) and I can barely see a water spot anyway nor swirl marks from waxing. Good Luck. ps-- I'm no expert on car products but I do like Meguiar products. I won't say they are the best but I would say they are very good. And I have 2 polishers (I think a 9" and 6") and I'd recommend the 6" first (less weight and easier to deal with around rounded shapes) but the 9" is probably better for flat hoods, trunk lids over larger flat areas but the 6" can still do it fine (maybe just take a little longer). Take a look at Mothers brand. They have a great detail PDF on thier website. >>Meguiar's has many great products. Personally, I'm using the liquid >>NXT for my base 'wax'. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >>>just thought I'd try some of this and wanted to know if anyone has used >>>it yet. Good luck, unless you're very lucky that will not remove the swirl marks, it will only re-arrange them. First off you need a buffer, not a polisher, with the correct pad (s). Second if you don't know which finishing compound to use such as 3M you are headed for a problem. Talk to the local automotive paint supplier to find out how to do it correctly. >>>thanks >>>AP [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > and less Jetdry mixed with water in attachment) attached to my water > hose to rinse the car. One comment, when you rinse the car do it with an open hose and flood the water over the entire surface. It will sheet off and leave less water to wipe off. In other words, don't spray rinse. >Then I dry it with decent cotton rags (tho by > this time it needs little). [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > is probably better for flat hoods, trunk lids over larger flat areas > but the 6" can still do it fine (maybe just take a little longer). >>>Meguiar's has many great products. Personally, I'm using the liquid >>>NXT for my base 'wax'. [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >over the entire surface. It will sheet off and leave less water to wipe off. In >other words, don't spray rinse. Dad, your way is much easier but I'm hesitant to do this because of the "hard" water we have here. I'm trying NOT to have the hard water touch my car so I try to always dilute my hard water before it touches my car whether it's the soap application or the rinse. Perhaps your way is fine if you don't have very much hard water??? Back when I lived in NY, there was no need to use this special solution... just car wash soap and garden hose water did well. Of course, I still waxed then. >>> Then I use the same minus the soap into a garden sprayer (less vinegar >>> and less Jetdry mixed with water in attachment) attached to my water [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > solution... just car wash soap and garden hose water did well. Of > course, I still waxed then. Doesn't matter, hard or soft, it will sheet off by flooding versus spraying. >>>> Then I use the same minus the soap into a garden sprayer (less vinegar >>>> and less Jetdry mixed with water in attachment) attached to my water [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Doesn't matter, hard or soft, it will sheet off by flooding versus spraying. The way I spray, it does flood it <grin> and then runs off as you said. I won't take the chance of the hard water even touching my newer cars and you can bet when and if I do buy a vette, it will be the same way. And in case anyone asks, no I don't bring my cars to car washes ... in fact the last time I did was about 27 years ago and I almost lost my antenna (when they were a stand alone mast). >>Doesn't matter, hard or soft, it will sheet off by flooding versus spraying. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > fact the last time I did was about 27 years ago and I almost lost my > antenna (when they were a stand alone mast). Spray does not sheet off, run off, yes, but do it your way. No need to just try it once and see what it does. Not to long ago I had a black Seville, a black C5 and the black '72, when I washed all 3 on a warm day it was easy to sheet the water off and not get streaks. Oh, by the way, all I use is Dawn dish soap. >>>Doesn't matter, hard or soft, it will sheet off by flooding versus spraying. >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >and the black '72, when I washed all 3 on a warm day it was easy to sheet the >water off and not get streaks. Oh, by the way, all I use is Dawn dish soap. Dawn Dish Soap... that's one way to take off the wax and possibly leave a nasty residue. You should always use a car wash product made for washing cars. >>>>Doesn't matter, hard or soft, it will sheet off by >>>>flooding versus spraying. [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > product made > for washing cars. why? because the car wash products advertising says so :-) its written that way to sale car wash products made for washing cars. my2¢  Signature"Key" ===== >>>>>Doesn't matter, hard or soft, it will sheet off by >>>>>flooding versus spraying. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > >my2¢ If you knew how the products worked you would soon change your way of thinking. >>> Dawn Dish Soap... that's one way to take off the wax and >>> possibly [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > If you knew how the products worked you would soon change your way of > thinking. One of the many things the company I worked for was to supply pumps to all sorts of automotive operations. Mainly heavy mastics, paint, grease, oil, anti-freeze, transmission fluid, paint fillers as powder, and materials in other industries such as perfume, blood, guts, corn mash, acid, ink, resins, driveway sealers. Among the specific product lines were OEM equipment suppliers for car wash chains, about 12, and laundries for big hospitals, about 18. For me to spec and build the pump or system that they bought and used, a fair knowledge of the materials in the pump and what it was going to pump was mandatory. I still have a list of all of those companies, about 220, so if you need to check some of that out, let me know. Some that I was in, Softrol, Sun Automation, Autech, Brite-O-Matic Mfg, Gin San, KO Inc., & Mark VII. WOW, was I stupid, that file was created 7 years ago and very early in the morning, going in early and working late got me an early retirement, actually that was a good thing, don't miss it at all. Let me know what I missed about how the products works so I can change my mind. Old and grouchy, SignatureDad 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd PS: I've also been painting and restoring cars since 1956, learned some things along the way but still finding out new things every day. >>>> Dawn Dish Soap... that's one way to take off the wax and >>>> possibly [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > >Let me know what I missed about how the products works so I can change my mind. So you built pumps... how does that apply to automotive finishes applied to cars? > So you built pumps... how does that apply to automotive finishes > applied to cars? Chemical compatibility. So all you got out of that was that I build pumps? Why do you think I included the names of OEM suppliers of carwash equipment and supplies? They sell soap for car wash facilities, check out their soap and Dawn and see if there are any similarities. Chemical compatibility. If the material and elastomembers in the pump are not compatible with the material being pumped the results are pump failures. Unhappy customer, warranty work, loss of business, and a bad company name. Chemical compatibility. Automotive finishes are applied to cars by pumps, through many applicators such as spray guns, turbo bells, and dip tanks. Chemical compatibility. None of that work was done without knowing how any chemical reacted to other materials such as soap on car finishes. Chemical compatibility charts are available for confirmation of what will or will not harm another material, check it out. >> So you built pumps... how does that apply to automotive finishes >> applied to cars? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >car wash facilities, check out their soap and Dawn and see if there are any >similarities. Chemical compatibility. Seems like you don't know how automtovie finishes work. A chemical in a liquid state does not have the same properties once it is dry. Check Dawn and car wax, then tell me that Dawn doesn't remove it. You know darn well (or you should) that Dawn will remove wax from cars. >>> So you built pumps... how does that apply to automotive finishes >>> applied to cars? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Check Dawn and car wax, then tell me that Dawn doesn't remove it. You >know darn well (or you should) that Dawn will remove wax from cars. I'm no expert but when I use to have my cars detailed, they didn't use dawn soap nor chamois (sp??) but did use terry cloth. I don't remember what they used for the soap now but I don't believe it was dishwashing soap. Since then, I've read a lot about car finishes and the consensus is to use terry cloth or microfiber towels for wiping the car dry. And most car people nowadays seem to NOT like dishwashing soap for car washing but I seem to recall that old timers (of my dad's age... WWII vet) use to say on the OLD cars that dishwashing soap was fine. I don't know if that had to do with the lack of clear coat on the old cars or not. But to repeat in more or less words that Dad (here) said earlier.... do what works for you !! That seems to be the answer no matter what your opinion is <grin>. >>>>>>Doesn't matter, hard or soft, it will sheet off by >>>>>>flooding versus spraying. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > your way of > thinking. uh? I do know how the products work and I sure could spend extra $$$'s on them. but, I also know how advertising strategies work. looks like they worked with you, hook, line and sinker. nothing bad intended Signature"Key" ===== >>>>>>>Doesn't matter, hard or soft, it will sheet off by >>>>>>>flooding versus spraying. [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] >looks like they worked with you, >hook, line and sinker. Then you are even more misguided than I thought. >>>>>>>>Doesn't matter, hard or soft, it will sheet off by >>>>>>>>flooding versus spraying. [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > Then you are even more misguided than I thought. duh? its you that's being "misguided" :-) Signature"Key" ===== > Dawn Dish Soap... that's one way to take off the wax and possibly > leave a nasty residue. You should always use a car wash product made > for washing cars. Old wives tale, your chamois takes off as much wax as does Dawn soap. Been using dish soap since the '60s and have seen no ill effects yet. As far as leaving a residue, make up your mind, first it takes everything off including the wax and then it leaves a residue? I have a picture of my Eldorado that I washed in Dawn for 9 years and 118K miles that still looked new when I traded it in, waxed it maybe 3 times. Use what makes you feel good, after this long I doubt I'll change because it scared you. >> Dawn Dish Soap... that's one way to take off the wax and possibly >> leave a nasty residue. You should always use a car wash product made [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >maybe 3 times. Use what makes you feel good, after this long I doubt I'll change >because it scared you. Its not an old wifes tale. You shouldn't use a chamois either, you should use terry cloth or microfiber towels to dry a car. Yes it takes of everything then leaves a residue. You clearly don't have an understanding of how dish soap works on automotive finsishes, but you won't change because your too cheap. > Its not an old wifes tale. You shouldn't use a chamois either, you > should use terry cloth or microfiber towels to dry a car. Yes it > takes of everything then leaves a residue. You clearly don't have an > understanding of how dish soap works on automotive finsishes, but you > won't change because your too cheap. Didn't say I used a chamois, I said "your" chamois. Help me with my "understanding" and use some facts please. If you mean cheap as not spending money on needless items, I'm guilty. SignatureDad 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd >> Its not an old wifes tale. You shouldn't use a chamois either, you >> should use terry cloth or microfiber towels to dry a car. Yes it [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Didn't say I used a chamois, I said "your" chamois. Help me with my >"understanding" and use some facts please. I don't use a chamois. Fact, dish soap strips off wax and can leave a resuide behind. Fact, car wash soaps do not strip off wax or leave a residue behind. >>Didn't say I used a chamois, I said "your" chamois. Help me with my >>"understanding" and use some facts please. > > I don't use a chamois. Fact, dish soap strips off wax and can leave a > resuide behind. Fact, car wash soaps do not strip off wax or leave a > residue behind. Fact, you have no facts. You eat off plates with a residue on them? Take a look at the MSDS sheets on dish soap and car wash soap. >>>Didn't say I used a chamois, I said "your" chamois. Help me with my >>>"understanding" and use some facts please. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Take a look at the MSDS sheets on dish soap and car wash soap. I have given you facts. A simple Google search backs up my facts and debunks your idea. Eating off plates isn't the same as washing a car. Unless you paint your plates with an automotive finish and wax them. MSDS sheets refer to the human safety aspect. >>>>Didn't say I used a chamois, I said "your" chamois. Help me with my >>>>"understanding" and use some facts please. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > >MSDS sheets refer to the human safety aspect. With all due respect, I think the MSDS also gives the chemical composition as well as the human safety aspect. BTW, my understanding is, a grocery store is supposed to carry them for your inspection since they sell chemical composed items but I bet if you ask for a "MSDS" sheet, almost no one will know what you are talking about. The only reason I know about MSDS was because when I had to visit petrochemical plants (btw, not the kinda place you want your vette to be), they make you take safety courses before hand and talk and show you MSDS sheets. >>MSDS sheets refer to the human safety aspect. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > be), they make you take safety courses before hand and talk and show > you MSDS sheets. Try going into a mine without mega safety training. >>>MSDS sheets refer to the human safety aspect. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Try going into a mine without mega safety training. No thank you. I don't even want to go where I've been where the valves are 50 plus years old or the steel columns are rusting out at the bottom. > > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > LOLOL I took Coal Mining in High School. Went to English class, then went 300ft down in the mine the rest of the day. They couldn't get away with that now-a-days!!! SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson >>> I don't use a chamois. Fact, dish soap strips off wax and can leave a >>> resuide behind. Fact, car wash soaps do not strip off wax or leave a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > debunks your idea. Eating off plates isn't the same as washing a car. > Unless you paint your plates with an automotive finish and wax them. How can I deal with logic like that? I'll have to see what google says about that if I need to believe it or not. > MSDS sheets refer to the human safety aspect. It also gives the base chemicals used in both. Your facts are web hearsay and old wives tales, try looking at the chemical composition of both soaps then if you don't agree with using MSDS sheets. Ever even give it any thought as to why they used Dawn to clean animals after the oil spill? Chemical compatibility. >>>> I don't use a chamois. Fact, dish soap strips off wax and can leave a >>>> resuide behind. Fact, car wash soaps do not strip off wax or leave a [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >How can I deal with logic like that? I'll have to see what google says about >that if I need to believe it or not. You mean how can you deal with the truth? >> MSDS sheets refer to the human safety aspect. > >It also gives the base chemicals used in both. Your facts are web hearsay and >old wives tales, try looking at the chemical composition of both soaps then if >you don't agree with using MSDS sheets. Ever even give it any thought as to why >they used Dawn to clean animals after the oil spill? If you don't understand the basics of how Dawn works then you'll never understand. Of course they use Dawn for cleaning animals.. IT REMOVES THE OIL AND WAX!. The same thing is does to you car.. IT REMOVES THE WAX. Now if you goal is to remove the wax before doing a clay bar treatment and re waxing then thats another thing. I suggest you look at the information from companies that make automotive paint, clear coat and waxes and let me know which ones say to use Dawn to clean your car with. :>>>>> I don't use a chamois. Fact, dish soap strips off wax and can leave a :>>>>> resuide behind. Fact, car wash soaps do not strip off wax or leave a [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] :>THE OIL AND WAX!. The same thing is does to you car.. IT REMOVES THE :>WAX. Dawn is one of the soaps used to clean animals sprayed by skunks. I've used it for years and it's the only thing, combined with a white vinegar rinse that removes the scent completely. :>Now if you goal is to remove the wax before doing a clay bar treatment :>and re waxing then thats another thing. :> :>I suggest you look at the information from companies that make :>automotive paint, clear coat and waxes and let me know which ones say :>to use Dawn to clean your car with. Dawn strips the wax. You're not wrong Andy. >:>>>>> I don't use a chamois. Fact, dish soap strips off wax and can leave a >:>>>>> resuide behind. Fact, car wash soaps do not strip off wax or leave a [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >I've used it for years and it's the only thing, combined with a white >vinegar rinse that removes the scent completely. Lets hope no one else has to find that out the hard way. >>>>Didn't say I used a chamois, I said "your" chamois. Help me with my >>>>"understanding" and use some facts please. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > MSDS sheets refer to the human safety aspect. And google says! See step one here. http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-perfect.html First paragraph here http://www.faqs.org/faqs/autos/toyota-faq/RAV4/section-56.html Or 2/3 down the page here http://www.properautocare.com/remexwaxorse.html I think perhaps that "Dawn removes wax" fits into Urban legend category! >>>>>Didn't say I used a chamois, I said "your" chamois. Help me with my >>>>>"understanding" and use some facts please. [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >I think perhaps that "Dawn removes wax" fits into Urban legend category! I read them and: First example is before using clay. So you are removing the wax. Second example: Wash your RAV4 regularly with a mild detergent designed for cars. Dishwashing soap, like Ivory or Dawn, is fairly mild and works pretty well, although some people do not recommend using a dish soap. Any harsh soap or ammonia based cleaner will remove the wax from your finish and leave it looking dull. So most people don't recomend it. Third example: Dawn dishwashing soap has earned a reputation for removing wax but I've experienced mixed results using this soap. Mixed results. So if the results are only mixed then it can't be that good. Seems "Dawn removes wax" is correct and isn't any kind of legand. "Andy" <wisynoil@gmail.com> wrote in message > I read them and: > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > So most people don't recomend it. it says some people, not most people, and you think I am "misguided" ! :-) Signature"Key" ===== >>>>>>Didn't say I used a chamois, I said "your" chamois. Help me with my >>>>>>"understanding" and use some facts please. [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > Seems "Dawn removes wax" is correct and isn't any kind of legand. Nope, seems you don't read so well, since your selective quoting is contrary to what is the fact. >>>>>>>Didn't say I used a chamois, I said "your" chamois. Help me with my >>>>>>>"understanding" and use some facts please. [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] >Nope, seems you don't read so well, since your selective quoting is >contrary to what is the fact. There you go again, trying to say that facts support your position when they clearly don't. Why don't you go back and read the links you posted. In the case of the clay bar application, it doesn't matter since clay bar also removes wax. snip >>Nope, seems you don't read so well, since your selective quoting is >>contrary to what is the fact. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > posted. In the case of the clay bar application, it doesn't matter > since clay bar also removes wax. As un-informed as you are about dish soap I would guess you wouldn't want to hear about how many vehicles I've washed with Tide laundry granules. Does a much better job than that old Dawn. >snip >>>Nope, seems you don't read so well, since your selective quoting is [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >hear about how many vehicles I've washed with Tide laundry granules. Does a much >better job than that old Dawn. I am very well informed about dish soap, in fact I even went to the bother of calling the company that makes Dawn to get thier opinion. If you want to damage your car, go right ahead, geeze. >>As un-informed as you are about dish soap I would guess you wouldn't want to >>hear about how many vehicles I've washed with Tide laundry granules. Does a [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > If you want to damage your car, go right ahead, geeze. Sure you did. Put the number you called and the person you talked to on here and I'll be able to call and have the same enlightened information you do. >>>As un-informed as you are about dish soap I would guess you wouldn't want to >>>hear about how many vehicles I've washed with Tide laundry granules. Does a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >Sure you did. Put the number you called and the person you talked to on here and >I'll be able to call and have the same enlightened information you do. I don't recall who I talked to. But the number I called was 1-800-725-3296 > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >1-800-725-3296 > LOL Tech Support for Dish Soap! SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson > On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 10:39:53 -0500, "Dad" <knockers@fisher.net> >>Sure you did. Put the number you called and the person you talked to on here [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I don't recall who I talked to. But the number I called was > 1-800-725-3296 Easy number to find, what did he/she/recording say? The next person/recording may say something very different, so share your wealth of knowledge gleaned from the call. Their reply to me was that it hadn't been tested for that so they don't recommend it, understandable and a safe answer. They do make a soap that can be used under the Mr. Clean label. Again the makeup of the 2 can't be compared as easily as the results can. Dawn is fine. What did you say your Corvette was? Just a question you should be able to answer with some fact and no hearsay. > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >recommend it, understandable and a safe answer. They do make a soap that can be >used under the Mr. Clean label. Yea, the Mr. Clean soap is for the Mr. Clean Car Wash Kit. I have one. And that soap is completely different than Dawn. It has a sheeting agent in it. And actually leaves a narly film on your car. I use the Mr. Clean thingie just for the Deionizing filter in it. Not with the crappy soap. >Again the makeup of the 2 can't be compared as >easily as the results can. Dawn is fine. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson >>>>As un-informed as you are about dish soap I would guess >>>>you wouldn't want to [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > was > 1-800-725-3296 that is where you got your "facts" ? as you said, "geeze" :-) I really think ya need to change the subject. you're not getting very far with this one :-) Signature"Key" ===== >>>>>As un-informed as you are about dish soap I would guess >>>>>you wouldn't want to [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >I really think ya need to change the subject. >you're not getting very far with this one :-) Have you even been reading this tread..geeze > Have you even been reading this tread..geeze Nope, doing it just like you do. >> Have you even been reading this tread..geeze > > Nope, doing it just like you do. gee, Thanks Dad :-) Signature"Key" ===== ---snip what doesn't really apply--- >>I really think ya need to change the subject. >>you're not getting very far with this one :-) > > Have you even been reading this tread..geeze uh? yea I have and this subject is getting nowhere. you believe in your opinion of the subject and others believe in theirs. nuff said... happy holidays to you & yours Signature"Key" ===== >>> Dawn Dish Soap... that's one way to take off the wax and >>> possibly [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > finsishes, but you > won't change because your too cheap. "too cheap" ? now that's funny :-) again, nothing bad intended Signature"Key" ===== >>> Dawn Dish Soap... that's one way to take off the wax and possibly >>> leave a nasty residue. You should always use a car wash product made [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >understanding of how dish soap works on automotive finsishes, but you >won't change because your too cheap. Andy, I may agree more than less on your method of washing a car but resorting to cheap shots calling someone "cheap" because they don't agree with you is immature. You can do better than that. And to be honest, I do NOT know Dad but my first impression is that he is not doing this because he's cheap. I think he really believes in what he says. Even if I don't totally agree with Dad (or you for that matter), nothing wrong in doing what you believe in especially if it works for you, right? Maybe just agree to disagree and remain newsgroup friends and move on to the next topic???? >>>> Dawn Dish Soap... that's one way to take off the wax and possibly >>>> leave a nasty residue. You should always use a car wash product made [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >matter), nothing wrong in doing what you believe in especially if it >works for you, right? I think from his postings that he doen't feel the need to buy a car wash product because he thinks Dawn is the same thing. Which of course it's not. So he'd rather save a few pennies. It would be interesting to see the photographs of the car washed for years with Dawn that was as good as new. > > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >years with Dawn that was as good as new. > Careful, he will make you eat your words... Using Dawn won't make a finish look any worse than using "car wash soap". I guess there could be "some" validity to it taking off "some" wax. But so will drying a car. SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson >I guess there could be "some" validity to it taking off "some" wax. But >so will drying a car. Depends how you dry your car >>I guess there could be "some" validity to it taking off "some" wax. But >>so will drying a car. > > Depends how you dry your car You don't have to "dry" your car if you sheet the water off and use a blower, then just dab up the seam trickles. You guy's are making far to much work out of this. By the way I have one stall in my garage to do just wash and paint jobs. Other than with pure cotton diapers I never touch the finish on my cars after they're washed. Yeah Ric, I try to wash them out first or at least shake out any large deposits. I agree, most times I sheet wash the car, the water slides off like big pools of mercury :-) that's after I hit it with a high pressure water nozzle to remove the dust and the occasional bird dropping. I wax the car once a month with the spray on wash liquid that you need to work up to a lather with using a sponge and it leaves a good shine on the car after I sheet dry it... Sometimes to dry I use that super absorbent rubbery chamois cloth (forget its name) It (the cloth) gets hard as a board when it's dry... what blower do you use ? leaf blower ? or blow dryer ? ?? regards Ash www.eslurf.com/corvette > You don't have to "dry" your car if you sheet the water off and use a blower, > then just dab up the seam trickles. You guy's are making far to much work out of [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yeah Ric, I try to wash them out first or at least shake out any large deposits. > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > LOLOL Hummm... Using your Depends for Drying the Vette! Recycling, off your bum, then to the garage!!! :-) > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson eh ? what you said ? (lol) > LOLOL Hummm... Using your Depends for Drying the Vette! Recycling, off > your bum, then to the garage!!! :-) > > > > I think from his postings that he doen't feel the need to buy a car > wash product because he thinks Dawn is the same thing. Which of > course it's not. So he'd rather save a few pennies. > > It would be interesting to see the photographs of the car washed for > years with Dawn that was as good as new. If you can receive photos on that address I'll send a few of the cars that are always washed with Dawn. Sort of useless because you really have no idea if the car is even mine. Although the picture of the 3 black cars I mentioned may be hard to explain away and it includes the black '72 which is not a Corvette color that year. Never said it was the same thing just a usable product. Plus it's not about saving a few pennies when you're driving a Corvette, it's about driving fun. How do you like your Corvette? SignatureDad 05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51 72 Shark Black/Black/4spd 65 Mustang/white/blue 50 Chevycoupe/gray/black > > >And to be honest, I do NOT know Dad but my first impression is that he >is not doing this because he's cheap. I think he really believes in >what he says. > Oh no...... he's CHEEP.... ;-) hehehe >Maybe just agree to disagree and remain newsgroup friends and move on >to the next topic???? > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove –SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson > Oh no...... he's CHEEP.... ;-) hehehe > > Ric Seyler That's "cheap" to you bird brain! Go back to sleep--- ;-)) > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >Go back to sleep--- ;-)) > LOLOLOL Bite me! :-) > SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson Dad wrote: "RicSeyler" <ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net> wrote in message news:beggh.1051$_z6.144@bignews3.bellsouth.net... Oh no...... he's CHEEP.... ;-) hehehe Ric Seyler That's "cheap" to you bird brain! Go back to sleep--- ;-)) LOLOLOL Bite me! :-) With or without my teeth in? SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > >>With or without my teeth in? PFFFFFFFFFTTTT HAHAHAHA! SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson >>Doesn't matter, hard or soft, it will sheet off by flooding versus spraying. > >The way I spray, it does flood it <grin> and then runs off as you >said. I won't take the chance of the hard water even touching my >newer cars and you can bet when and if I do buy a vette, it will be >the same way. You use a slow stream of water (no connection on the end of the hose and the water just coming out) to get as much water off the car before you wipe it dry. The less beads of water on the car the faster you can dry it before the water dries on its own and you get the hard water spots. If you seem them happening, hit them with an instant detailer. If your real anal about it, get an inline filter for your hose. >>>Doesn't matter, hard or soft, it will sheet off by flooding versus spraying. >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >detailer. If your real anal about it, get an inline filter for your >hose. For what it's worth, the vinegar breaks up the minerals in the hard water and the Jetdry (used in dishwashers washing glasses to prevent water streaks) makes the water more slippery. That said, my way works FINE for me and after 3.5 years of observing it, I won't change anything about it now BUT as Dad said, what ever makes you happy, do that way instead. >>>Meguiar's has many great products. Personally, I'm using the liquid >>>NXT for my base 'wax'. [quoted text clipped - 67 lines] >> is probably better for flat hoods, trunk lids over larger flat areas >> but the 6" can still do it fine (maybe just take a little longer). Incidentally, you are correct and I was mistaken. In my first post I mentioned about a 9" and 6" polisher but I should have said buffer!! And mine are electric and seem fine but I think (??) the pros use air powered. Thank you Dad !! > Good luck, unless you're very lucky that will not remove the swirl marks, it > will only re-arrange them. First off you need a buffer, not a polisher, with [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > supplier > to find out how to do it correctly. Dad was on the mark. I had some swirls and paid a PRO to use a buffer. It looked like a new car and I then applied Zaino. An unskilled buffer can make a mess. The guy did a great job on mine and took out swirls, marks and surface scratches. aRKay 01 Black Coupe >is it any good ? >anyone use it ? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >thanks >AP After reading this whole thread, I wonder if you really ever got a definitive answer ??? |
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