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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Corvette / March 2007

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Initial Impressions of the C5/C6

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machinamentum@gmail.com - 19 Feb 2007 21:18 GMT
I used to own a vet, a 1979, which I sold quite a long time ago.
Summers coming and I find myself which some extra cash so I have been
looking in the paper for a late model corvette. I researched that a
new model came out in 2005 so I thought I would look around for a used
C6 rather then a C5. Looking at pictures from the Internet, I figured
the C5 and the C6 looked almost the same, except the C6 was a bit
shorter and had some trim differences. Boy was this wrong.

So I'm driving by the local GM dealership and see a C5 convertible on
the lot. Cool I'll go and have a look at it and maybe see a C6 as
well. So I parked and walked up to the C5 and all I could think this
is a stunningly nice looking car. I really like it. I decide to go in
and see if the have any C6's. As I'm walking to the dealership
building I see a couple of 2007 C6's under a tent. My first
impression, in all honesty, is they were still very nice looking but
relative to the C5 somewhat 'ordinary' looking.

So I've still got a line on a used 2006 C6 I'm going to look at,
technically it should be the better car, but does anyone here think
the C5 looks better than the C6? I'm probably going to have to see the
C6 from some different angles I think. The C5 model I saw really
impressed me at least in aesthetics. I want to test drive both of
course.
Dad - 20 Feb 2007 00:33 GMT
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> So I'm driving by the local GM dealership and see a C5 convertible on
> the lot. Cool I'll go and have a look at it and maybe see a C6 as
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> impressed me at least in aesthetics. I want to test drive both of
> course.

You pretty much got it right, if the C6 doesn't have an overriding appeal, save
your money. The C5 is a great machine and will do most everything the C6 will.
Sits and rides about the same with a bit more of a boot from the C6 which is
also much more quiet without the window leaks. The indexing of the door glass
keeps them sealed at any speed. The C6 is a slight improvement over the C5 but
not much. One down side to the C6 coupe is the smaller view out the back glass.
Almost forgot, the front license plate, if require, is dorky.

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Dad
05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd

machinamentum@gmail.com - 20 Feb 2007 01:34 GMT
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Thanks for the response. This will give me something to think about
when I test drive. Fortunately a front license plate is not required
where I live.

I still really, really want to like the C6 and I'll give it's styling
another chance. But the feeling was very strange. I was genuinely
enamored of the 2001 C5 Silver convertible I saw, even covered with a
months worth of road salt. I knew for certain the C6 was even going to
be better; only to see how subdued the styling was on a shiny new 2007
C6 convertible.  But I guess they wouldn't have done it if they didn't
think that's what people wanted to buy.
Tom in Missouri - 24 Feb 2007 21:36 GMT
> But I guess they wouldn't have done it if they didn't
> think that's what people wanted to buy.

ROFL!!!  GM, think about what people want to buy?  ROFL.

That is why GM is in such trouble.  They are better, but they still haven't
eliminated the "We know what is good for you" mentality.
Dad - 24 Feb 2007 23:40 GMT
>> But I guess they wouldn't have done it if they didn't
>> think that's what people wanted to buy.
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> That is why GM is in such trouble.  They are better, but they still haven't
> eliminated the "We know what is good for you" mentality.

Mentality??
dave - 24 Feb 2007 23:18 GMT
'So I've still got a line on a used 2006 C6 I'm going to look at,
technically it should be the better car, but does anyone here think the
C5 looks better than the C6? '

REPLY:  I personally think the C6 is a sharper looking Corvette with its
distinct lines. However i may be bias since i bought a 2006 last year at
this time.   Ive been told numerous times that the C6 is quite a bit
above the C5's  as far as quietness , performance, and reliability is
concerned.  One thing i can definetly say , is,  after approx. 6000
miles, the performance of my 2006 noticeably increased ;  i guess it
just needed to get 'broken in'  .  If i were going to consider a C5, id
look at a Convertible 6 speed .
Tom Scales - 15 Mar 2007 04:00 GMT
>I used to own a vet, a 1979, which I sold quite a long time ago.
> Summers coming and I find myself which some extra cash so I have been
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> impressed me at least in aesthetics. I want to test drive both of
> course.

I've owned both and like both.  The C6 is evolutionary, not like the C4 to
C5.  Much of the design carried over.  The C6 is certainly more refined and
has many options that the C5 didn't have (power top and nav, for example),
but you won't be disappointed with a C5.

I happen to like the looks of the C6 quite a bit more.

The C5 had a lot more room, though.  The C6 is a little cramped for my 6'2"
frame.

Tom
PJ - 15 Mar 2007 21:52 GMT
>> I used to own a vet, a 1979, which I sold quite a long time ago.
>> Summers coming and I find myself which some extra cash so I have been
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> Tom

At first it was difficult for my eye to accept the headlights.  In some
paint colors, in the profile view, appeared to have niches cut from the
front fenders.

However, early this year I became accepting of the whole business. (Old
farts are slow to warm to anything new.)  I've only driven the C6 once
and that was in daylight--agree, never got the seat set quite right (I'm
two inches shorter than Tom); however, when passing a C6 on the highway,
there's no doubt -- that guy has better lighting than do I.

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PJ
Wolfman - 16 Mar 2007 17:33 GMT
The problem with GM is that they have no imagination when it comes to the
sale of performance cars..The original Z1 looked exactly like the regular
Vette. It was different and was wider but did NOT look any different to the
ordinary person.

And again they do not capitalize on the performance look bit. The C5..C6
look the same to me..I really still cant see the difference in appearance if
any.. To really sell these thing and make the owners proud to own one they
should look the performance part. THEY DON"T...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When Ford brought out the Shelby line in the 1965 time frame and even now
they look different..THEY LOOK LIKE PERFORMANCE CARS..people can tell there
is a difference..

Bottom line ..GM sucks at marketing...look also at the failure of several of
their cars..Pontiac for one ..also too many others to mention. You might as
well go with a C5 for looks...for a real performance car get a Shelby GT
500.!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tom Scales - 16 Mar 2007 17:43 GMT
> The problem with GM is that they have no imagination when it comes to the
> sale of performance cars..The original Z1 looked exactly like the regular
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> might as well go with a C5 for looks...for a real performance car get a
> Shelby GT 500.!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me guess. You drive a Mustang.

If you can't tell the difference between a C5 and C6, I'd strongly suggest
an optometrist.  You know, little things like the headlights not being
hidden are a bit of a give away.

The Mustang has always looked exactly like what it is.  A shortened four
door sedan.  The original 64 was and the current model is just a 2 door
Lincoln LS without the IRS.

Nice cars, but GTs at best, not sports cars.
Dad - 16 Mar 2007 19:23 GMT
>> The problem with GM is that they have no imagination when it comes to the
>> sale of performance cars..The original Z1 looked exactly like the regular
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> Nice cars, but GTs at best, not sports cars.
You have to admit that he's right, without the go faster strips he is unable to
find a performance car. Of course you have to add the obligatory menacing
emblems so the blind can identify them. The blind being those that don't
recognize that the thread is about C5 and C6 Corvettes and has nothing to do
with a Z1, what ever that is, or Ford. Or if you can't find the emblems maybe
the obnoxious spoiler to keep the pickup differential planted firmly on plowed
ground would help to identify the true performance built into this legendary
machine.

All the posts he makes from his borrowed computer are loaded with venom, Cobra
like, and hate. Wouldn't you hate to live with that much hate in your life?

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Dad
05 C6 Silver/Red 6spd Z51
72 Shark Black/Black/4spd
64 Red/red/white top/4spd
65 Mustang (Falcon with a major birth defect).
Chevy 62 passenger school bus that can beat a Cobra- Ease up, it's a joke.
Replies will be answered when I get back, planning a trip around the world.
She's not here yet.

PJ - 16 Mar 2007 21:21 GMT
>>> The problem with GM is that they have no imagination when it comes to
>>> the sale of performance cars..The original Z1 looked exactly like the
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> Cobra like, and hate. Wouldn't you hate to live with that much hate in
> your life?

*/++++++++++++++++
About the spoiler:  IIRC Road and Track was curious what
effect the spoiler had. So, they removed it.  Only
significant change:  top speed increased by 3 mph.

Marketing they got, engineering...not really.  Nice personal
car.
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PJ
Bob I - 16 Mar 2007 23:13 GMT
> The problem with GM is that they have no imagination when it comes to
> the sale of performance cars..The original Z1 looked exactly like the
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> mention. You might as well go with a C5 for looks...for a real
> performance car get a Shelby GT 500.!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bottom line is you continue to make moronic statments. Please tell your
wife to turn off the computer when she leaves with the 'vette.
Tom Scales - 17 Mar 2007 02:06 GMT
>> The problem with GM is that they have no imagination when it comes to the
>> sale of performance cars..The original Z1 looked exactly like the regular
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> Bottom line is you continue to make moronic statments. Please tell your
> wife to turn off the computer when she leaves with the 'vette.

Wife?  You think he's married?  I pegged him for 13 years old :)
peacocks_47@hotmail.com - 18 Mar 2007 01:14 GMT
> >> The problem with GM is that they have no imagination when it comes to the
> >> sale of performance cars..The original Z1 looked exactly like the regular
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the c6 corvette is a rip off, they took the styling from the much
better viper and molded it into the ''new'' corvette.im not a dodge
guy and im not sticking up for them . im a ford guy and i own a
mustang a 69 boss 429. and i raced thoes c5 and new c6 vettes and they
couldent touch me. but all im sayin is that lately chevy has been
duplicating other vehicles. for ex. the chev hhr looks alot like the
pt-cruiser, the vette and viper look alike and now the sierra looks
like the ford f-250.and yes chevy is bad at marketing since day one.
Bob I - 18 Mar 2007 01:30 GMT
>>>>The problem with GM is that they have no imagination when it comes to the
>>>>sale of performance cars..The original Z1 looked exactly like the regular
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> pt-cruiser, the vette and viper look alike and now the sierra looks
> like the ford f-250.and yes chevy is bad at marketing since day one.

Ya right, that would be why ford is number 2, and GM is considering
buying chrysler? Vette looking like a viper, see your optometrist
immediately, 'cause you're obviously blind. If you passed a 'vette it
was because they didn't know you were racing. You really are living in a
dream world.
Tom Scales - 18 Mar 2007 11:10 GMT
>>>>>The problem with GM is that they have no imagination when it comes to
>>>>>the
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> 'cause you're obviously blind. If you passed a 'vette it was because they
> didn't know you were racing. You really are living in a dream world.

Don't feed the trolls.  His 69 couldn't pass the Cadillac CTS-V, let alone a
C5 or C6.  He's a TROLL.
Bob I - 18 Mar 2007 16:47 GMT
>>>>>>The problem with GM is that they have no imagination when it comes to
>>>>>>the
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> Don't feed the trolls.  His 69 couldn't pass the Cadillac CTS-V, let alone a
> C5 or C6.  He's a TROLL.

Or he's really stoopid, heck a '57 Corvette would smoke that boat anchor
he claims to drive.
peacocks_47@hotmail.com - 18 Mar 2007 22:20 GMT
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well actually a 57 vette probably couldent touch my 429 witch has
almost 800hp by now thanks to all my ford racing goodies.and i have
seen my optometrist and i have good enough vision to see the cars in
close detail. and no chev is not even thinking about buying
chrysler(your the one in the dream world), if they did that would mean
the end of the top three companies and chrysler would probably never
see a nice vehicle leave there factories ever again.oh and my car is
far from a boat anchor.and yes thoes vettes knew i was racin them
after all it was at the drag strip. a cts-v? youv got to be kiddin
me .....i dont think so.i get those thing stuck in my grill when i fly
past them, along with a few chevells, chargers, etc....
(and no i dont mean literally stuck in my grill), and lastly corvettes
are over-priced, under-dressed, and if their not taken care of they
fall apart at the seems.
peacocks_47@hotmail.com - 18 Mar 2007 22:26 GMT
On Mar 18, 1:20 pm, peacocks...@hotmail.com wrote:

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oh ya and the only reason ford has #2 in sales is because gm has more
companies that sell afordable vehicles ford has:lincoln,mercury,mazda,
volvo, land rover, jaguar, and aston martin(007).
Dad - 19 Mar 2007 04:35 GMT
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>> almost 800hp by now thanks to all my ford racing goodies.and i have
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> companies that sell afordable vehicles ford has:lincoln,mercury,mazda,
> volvo, land rover, jaguar, and aston martin(007).

Now's the time to put her to bed Ted, post a time slip or some of the times you
run. Better yet post the site from the track you run at so we can all see how
well that 429 does against the Chevies. We have a few people on here that run
straight up on occasions.

Here's a site from one of my acquaintances from Canada, maybe close enough for
you to try him on. http://www.computersupport.ca/Restoration/Corvette.htm By the
way he drives it to events not a trailer queen.

Sad to say I'm a Mustang owner,
Dad
Bob I - 20 Mar 2007 00:11 GMT
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> Dad

Yo Dad, there isn't a "crime" to owning one, even I will give them their
due. Unfortunately that particular model was "foisted" off on the buyer
to homologate the engine quickly for use in NASCAR, and as a result was
a particularly pathetic under engineered excuse for a musclecar. They
just used the mustang feeding frenzy and the large displacement to move
the toads. So someone bragging of owning one and using it as an example
of "ford performance" is pretty clueless as far as automotive knowledge
is concerned.
Dad - 20 Mar 2007 01:38 GMT
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> someone bragging of owning one and using it as an example of "ford
> performance" is pretty clueless as far as automotive knowledge is concerned.

No crime to own one just shame to be associated with this type of owner. Makes
me believe that grayfaux reproduced. There never is that kind of attitude
exhibited by Corvette owners. :-))) Stop that, my ribs hurt now. I used to get a
kick out those old rumbling dinosaurs that couldn't get out of their own way.
With some good tuning you could expect a bit over 1/2 a horse per cube.
peacocks_47@hotmail.com - 20 Mar 2007 03:32 GMT
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my car is not a trailer queen or a garage queen i drive it alot. and
excuse me for being a little(or alot)self conscious about my car.
odviously i dont belong in this discussion because im being attacked
by everyone(and i know i brought it on myself).i have owned the car
since 74 and i always loved it. im sure any other vehicle could have
the same effect on its owner.oh and my car rocked alot of trans
am's,chevells,etc....in its stalk days, so from what i have seen from
this car its not an underperformer.
L C - 20 Mar 2007 10:59 GMT
How cool that must have been blowing off all those great muscle
cars back in the day with your 750- 800 hp BOSS 429! Especially at the
ripe age of NINE or TEN, as you claim to  have owned the car since 1974,
and you just mentioned in a earlier post that you are FORTY TWO!  Man,
what I missed out on when I was a kid! Oh well best of luck, and many
more good YEARS and memories with your BOSS 429, not a Ford guy, but
still love some of those old 'Stangs!!!    LC
Dad - 20 Mar 2007 15:26 GMT
>> "Bob I" <birel...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> am's,chevells,etc....in its stalk days, so from what i have seen from
> this car its not an underperformer.

Do the math, you're 42 and you've owned it since '74???? Now I know why it's not
a trailer or garage queen, as suspected, it doesn't exist. You didn't even
bother to guess what your times on the 1/4 were or could be. See those tail
lights in the distance? You're left behind again.
Tom Scales - 18 Mar 2007 22:45 GMT
> well actually a 57 vette probably couldent touch my 429 witch has
> almost 800hp by now thanks to all my ford racing goodies.and i have
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> are over-priced, under-dressed, and if their not taken care of they
> fall apart at the seems.

You're betraying the fact that you're 13 years old with your spelling and
grammar.  'witch has'.

Have you had grammar in the 6th grade yet?

800hp.  Yeah.  Sure.

Made me laugh.
peacocks_47@hotmail.com - 18 Mar 2007 23:23 GMT
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> Made me laugh.

sorry ifs my gammar ins nots up..s to yous standards and no not 13, am
actually 42 (you could of asked before jumping to conclusions) and yes
AROUND 800hp 750-850hp (sorry but its a fact)  i havent actually had
it dino teasted yet but ya 800hp . and what do you drive a 80hp
chevette and only dream of owning a nice car like maby a lumina(yay).
Tom Scales - 19 Mar 2007 00:31 GMT
>> <peacocks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> it dino teasted yet but ya 800hp . and what do you drive a 80hp
> chevette and only dream of owning a nice car like maby a lumina(yay).

Dino tested?  Pretty sure they're all extinct.

What do I drive.  Hmm.  I have three cars.  The reason I am here is that I
have a 2007 Corvette convertible.  I also have a 2003 BMW M3 convertible.
Both are great fun and living in Florida, the tops are down almost year
around.

The most powerful car I currently own is my station wagon.  It's a 2003 BMW
540i wagon with the VG engineering supercharger kit.  If you're nearby,
let's meet at the Orlando drag strip.  I won't bother to beat you with my M3
or C6, I'll blow you away in my wagon.

And no, I don't believe you own a 750hp car.  Anyone capable of that could
communicate better and would at least understand the concept of paragraphs.
CardsFan - 19 Mar 2007 03:29 GMT
>> <peacocks...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> it dino teasted yet but ya 800hp . and what do you drive a 80hp
> chevette and only dream of owning a nice car like maby a lumina(yay).

I give your replies/opinions/statements of fact/bullshit the exact same
value that you give to sentence structure, grammar, capitalization,
spelling, etc.

AJM
'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops)
Bob I - 19 Mar 2007 01:12 GMT
>>>>peacocks...@hotmail.com wrote:
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> are over-priced, under-dressed, and if their not taken care of they
> fall apart at the seems.

You lose again poseur.
http://unclejoe.com/racing/supChev2.2k.htm
peacocks_47@hotmail.com - 19 Mar 2007 02:14 GMT
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well i do have to admit bmw's are really nice cars and yes i am bad at
writing paragraphs but it doesent seem to bother any one else i know.
but belive it or not(i dont really care) my car does have around 750hp
its not even close to stalk any more.the interior, body, and engine
block are probably the only stalk things.and my car has a hard top,
because i live in canada (not that i take it out in the winter ).and
if you could define poseur then maby i could explain why it seems that
way. oh and my friend has a 89' 302 gt and it hase close to 600hp so i
dont think its that hard of a reach to make 800 from a very modified
429.oh ya making fun of some one who doesent remember how to spell
some words some time is weak.
peacocks_47@hotmail.com - 19 Mar 2007 02:20 GMT
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oh ya and literacy has nothing to do with owning automobiles.
understanding how they work is key (im not saying you do or dont).
Jon - 16 Mar 2007 14:43 GMT
As far as looks go I like the C5 better mainly because I can't stand the
headlights.  The difference in performance/handling is not that great
except for the Z06- now that is one hell of a machine.
 
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