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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Corvette / December 2007GPS Nav in 2008
Any thoughts about the GPS/Nav option in a 2008? I have one on order. Meantime I've been trying to download/read the manual to become familiar with the options available before the car arrives (truth be told I'm chomping at the bit and I figured that perhaps this might help me make it through the wait). I have not been able to find out much about the GPS/Nav unit, how it works, how you program it, what options are available, etc. Any pointers would be helpful. Thanks.  SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> 11th commandment - Covet not thy neighbor's Pentium. Beware. I have a 2007 Cad and the GPS navigation sys. isn't worth a plug nickle - and it was a $2,000.00 option. Borrowed my sons $300.00 unit and it's good compared to the GM unit. The big problem with the GM unit is that it can't find addresses and streets that have been around for well over 20 years. My thinking is that the data based on a CD is not at all up to date. I'm working with my dealer on this problem. > Any thoughts about the GPS/Nav option in a 2008? I have one on order. > Meantime I've been trying to download/read the manual to become familiar [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Thanks. > Beware. I have a 2007 Cad and the GPS navigation sys. isn't worth a > plug nickle - and it was a $2,000.00 option. Well considering that the order was already placed and this was part of the order, the above doesn't help me at all... > Borrowed my sons $300.00 unit and it's good compared to the GM unit. > The big problem with the GM unit is that it can't find addresses and > streets that have been around for well over 20 years. > > My thinking is that the data based on a CD is not at all up to date. > I'm working with my dealer on this problem. Sounds like a data problem. My assumption is, and I believe I heard that one needs to periodically update the data CD. I also assume that I'd be starting off with up to date data. Then again I was really looking for the manual or an explanation of it's features - not just vague griping... SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Old quarterbacks never die, they just fade back and pass His is a 2007, how much more up to date does a 20 year old address need to be? $2000? I'll buy a better portable GPS unit for 1/4 the price and put the other $1500 in to the gas tank... John Smith wrote: Beware. I have a 2007 Cad and the GPS navigation sys. isn't worth a plug nickle - and it was a $2,000.00 option. Well considering that the order was already placed and this was part of the order, the above doesn't help me at all... Borrowed my sons $300.00 unit and it's good compared to the GM unit. The big problem with the GM unit is that it can't find addresses and streets that have been around for well over 20 years. My thinking is that the data based on a CD is not at all up to date. I'm working with my dealer on this problem. Sounds like a data problem. My assumption is, and I believe I heard that one needs to periodically update the data CD. I also assume that I'd be starting off with up to date data. Then again I was really looking for the manual or an explanation of it's features - not just vague griping... -- Andrew DeFaria Old quarterbacks never die, they just fade back and pass > His is a 2007, how much more up to date does a 20 year old address > need to be? While his hardware may be a 2007 we don't know what data CD he is using. I would hope it would also be a 2007 but I don't know. Then again I'd suspect that even up to the minute data CDs might not have even 20 year old addresses. All maps have errors and faulty data in them. Google maps, for instance, still can't find my exact address and it's about as up to date as any other. However, still, the age of the data or gripes was not the question I posed now was it? > $2000? I'll buy a better portable GPS unit for 1/4 the price and put > the other $1500 in to the gas tank... I would think that a portable GPS would not be as integrated (BTW I believe the GPS/NAV was $1700 - not $2000 but close enough). This weekend I was at an arts festival and they has some Infinity's all with GPS systems. I played with them for a while and they were quite nice. Interestingly one could type in an address and as I did certain keys would become unavailable. I later figured out that they were unavailable because based on my input so far, the GPS/NAV system determined that they no longer applied. That was weird but it seemed to work well nonetheless. I didn't try the voice activation though. And the integration with everything else including options settings, radio, etc. was well done. How is it on the vette? And that's more of what I was looking for. First, for the manual so I could just read about it's features and operations by myself. But also for experience in *using* the thing not simply bitching that it's data was old or that you can get a portable one cheaper. I mean how does that help me? SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> By the time you make ends meet, they move the ends. >His is a 2007, how much more up to date does a 20 year old address need to be? > >$2000? I'll buy a better portable GPS unit for 1/4 the price and put the other $1500 in to the gas tank... Heck I would Keep the entire $2,000 in the bank....and IF I got lost I'd stop and buy a cup of Joe and ask directions... I admit I have a hard time asking directions BUT no way no how is spending even $500 bucks for a GPS worth the money.... Bob G. >>His is a 2007, how much more up to date does a 20 year old address need to >>be? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Bob G. I have a Garmin Nuvi handheld that I use in my '04 coupe while my wife has a built-in GM unit in her '05 Cadillac. Both offer similar features that can search by address or by one of thousands of pre-stored "points of interest" ranging from gas stations, restaurants, shopping malls, hotels, etc. The Garmin does seem to have more of these than the GM unit. The Garmin also allows for easy updating via the internet as they periodically post updates to firmware, maps and features. The GM unit requires the purchase of a new DVD to get the same type of upgrades. The GM unit will play DVD's (while the car is parked; not while moving). Not sure if that is a major plus, but it is an obvious difference. With both of mine I have not found any errors in the maps, not found a location I was looking for. Having the Nav systems has been very handy, especially when on trips. For those who are directionally challenged (my wife included) it is an invaluable addition. As to the money spent, the in-dash just adds more value to the car at time of resale. How many of us, when looking for our cars (or for a new car to add to the stable) look for the with the best combination of low miles, most options and the right drivetrain combination? Having the Nav will be a plus. As for the initial cost ... it won't hurt near as much after the first few payments! :-) SignatureThanks, Mike >>> His is a 2007, how much more up to date does a 20 year old address >>> need to [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > As for the initial cost ... it won't hurt near as much after the first > few payments! :-) Thanks. At least some people can read a question and respond to it. SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Always proofread carefully to see if you any words out. > > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Bob G. > If GM is anything like the Lexus SUV my friend has they want an absolutely crazy amount of money for the updated NAv CDs also..... SignatureRic Seyler Online Racing: RicSeyler GPL Handicap 6.35 ricseyler@SPAMgulf.net http://www.pcola.gulf.net/~ricseyler remove -SPAM- from email address -------------------------------------- "Homer no function beer well without." - H.J. Simpson >> Beware. I have a 2007 Cad and the GPS navigation sys. isn't worth a >> plug nickle - and it was a $2,000.00 option. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >Then again I was really looking for the manual or an explanation of it's >features - not just vague griping... But I thought you asked for people's thoughts and now you don't want them unless they suit you ???? >> Sounds like a data problem. My assumption is, and I believe I heard >> that one needs to periodically update the data CD. I also assume that [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > But I thought you asked for people's thoughts and now you don't want > them unless they suit you ???? Again (for the dense among you), vague griping was not requested - thoughts yes - vague gripping no. IOW surprisingly enough I was looking for information - not bitching. And even above I did say "I was really looking for...". Did you not see/get that or are you just being argumentative? Cause if you want an argument I'd be happy to oblige.... SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> I hit the CTRL key but I'm still not in control! >>> Sounds like a data problem. My assumption is, and I believe I heard >>> that one needs to periodically update the data CD. I also assume that [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >looking for...". Did you not see/get that or are you just being >argumentative? Cause if you want an argument I'd be happy to oblige.... Grow up. >>>> Sounds like a data problem. My assumption is, and I believe I heard >>>> that one needs to periodically update the data CD. I also assume [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >> oblige.... > Grow up. Wow. I guess you really told me! I mean such a sophisticated, intelligent and well thought out response!! I'm shocked!!! I mean how can I argue with that? Well I'll try... Did it ever occur to your little pea brain there sonny that 1) I am grown up already, 2) I was asking for information - something a grown up seeks and 3) griping and bitching are the dominion of immature, non-grown up (actually not matured yet - age is not always a sign of maturity or intellect) people? Probably not. I mean after all you don't even have a real name yet! SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Assassins do it from behind. >>>>> Sounds like a data problem. My assumption is, and I believe I heard >>>>> that one needs to periodically update the data CD. I also assume [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Probably not. I mean after all you don't even have a real name yet! It's because of people like you I choose to keep my real name off the net but you already knew that and thanks for making my previous post look correct. >> Wow. I guess you really told me! I mean such a sophisticated, >> intelligent and well thought out response!! I'm shocked!!! I mean how [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> Probably not. I mean after all you don't even have a real name yet! > It's because of people like you I choose to keep my real name off the net IOW you're a f.cking coward. I understand. > but you already knew that Another invalid assumption. > and thanks for making my previous post look correct. Indeed, you looked like a little cry baby to start with... SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Alzheimer's advantage: New friends every day. observer wrote: Wow. I guess you really told me! I mean such a sophisticated, intelligent and well thought out response!! I'm shocked!!! I mean how can I argue with that? Well I'll try... Did it ever occur to your little pea brain there sonny that 1) I am grown up already, 2) I was asking for information - something a grown up seeks and 3) griping and bitching are the dominion of immature, non-grown up (actually not matured yet - age is not always a sign of maturity or intellect) people? Probably not. I mean after all you don't even have a real name yet! It's because of people like you I choose to keep my real name off the net IOW you're a f.cking coward. I understand. but you already knew that Another invalid assumption. and thanks for making my previous post look correct. Indeed, you looked like a little cry baby to start with... SignatureAndrew DeFaria Alzheimer's advantage: New friends every day. Andrew, You are rude, and that doesn't even address the fact that you are cross-eyed and over weight. Sorry, Andrew but a Corvette isn't going help you, you are ugly inside and out. > You are rude, and that doesn't even address the fact that you are > cross-eyed and over weight. Sorry, Andrew but a Corvette isn't going > help you, you are ugly inside and out. Unlike you, Mr. Nobody, I'm not getting a Corvette to "help" me... SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Do Lipton Tea employees take coffee breaks? My Name Is Nobody wrote: You are rude, and that doesn't even address the fact that you are cross-eyed and over weight. Sorry, Andrew but a Corvette isn't going help you, you are ugly inside and out. Unlike you, Mr. Nobody, I'm not getting a Corvette to "help" me... SignatureAndrew DeFaria Do Lipton Tea employees take coffee breaks? Unlike you, I'm not getting a Corvette. Like I said, a Corvette WILL NOT HELP! You Andrew DeFaria, are ugly, inside and out, and no car, actually NOTHING you do is gonna change that fact. :-) Karma is a wonderful thing. > Unlike you, I'm not getting a Corvette. So what? > Like I said, a Corvette WILL NOT HELP! Like I said, I'm not buying a Corvette to help. > You Andrew DeFaria, are ugly, inside and out, and no car, actually > NOTHING you do is gonna change that fact. :-) Again, I'm not looking for it to change anything ya f.cking moron! > Karma is a wonderful thing. Karma does not exist idiot! At least I'm not stupid enough to believe in mystical bullshit like you do. Again, at least I have a real name, unlike you. And I know how to use the Internet. Maybe one day you'll figure it out... SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets. My Name Is Nobody wrote: Unlike you, I'm not getting a Corvette. So what? Like I said, a Corvette WILL NOT HELP! Like I said, I'm not buying a Corvette to help. You Andrew DeFaria, are ugly, inside and out, and no car, actually NOTHING you do is gonna change that fact. :-) Again, I'm not looking for it to change anything ya f.cking moron! Karma is a wonderful thing. Karma does not exist idiot! At least I'm not stupid enough to believe in mystical bullshit like you do. Again, at least I have a real name, unlike you. And I know how to use the Internet. Maybe one day you'll figure it out... SignatureAndrew DeFaria The more you run over a dead cat, the flatter it gets. THAT'S JUST THE POINT! YOU SHOULD BE... You might consider starting your sub par command of the English language. You are betraying either a lack of education or intellect by relying upon these vulgarities to express yourself, which is it? Through whichever happenstance, (I'll call it Karma, you are proof of that, you can refer to it as bullshit) you have been blessed with the burden of being repulsively unattractive and overweight to boot, to top that off you have chosen to complement that poor hand with an extremely rude and equally offensive personality. Wow. Enjoy that, the irony brings great joy to others. You are the guy people see and smile about while they say to themselves "poetic justice". If you are still bragging about publishing your name and unflattering picture all over the internet along with your nasty attitude and foul language, Hmmm, well that is your choice. Andrew DeFaria, you remind me of Thom Lyons... Maybe one day you'll figure it out... You might enjoy this other bonehead, he insists on plastering his "real name" and picture all over the internet along with his generally "better left unsaid" points of view. It is pathetic and sad, but in a sadistic way it is funny, "poetic justice" ya know. Thom Lyons - Military Hero & Mensa Master http://www.thomlyons.blogspot.com/ Andrew isn't it great that this exchange will be preserved on servers all over the planet for millions of people to read, forever? > THAT'S JUST THE POINT! YOU SHOULD BE... I should be what? I'm sorry but I don't understand your incomprehensible babble... > You might consider starting your sub par command of the English language. You should talk... I should be, ahem, "starting" my sub par command of the English language?!? How exactly do I do that? > You are betraying either a lack of education or intellect by relying > upon these vulgarities to express yourself, which is it? No, vulgarities are part of a language, idiot! > Through whichever happenstance, (I'll call it Karma, you are proof of > that, you can refer to it as bullshit) you have been blessed with the > burden of being repulsively unattractive and overweight to boot, to > top that off you have chosen to complement that poor hand with an > extremely rude and equally offensive personality. Wow. Wow is right. Ad hominem attacks are what people resort to when they lack an argument. > Enjoy that, the irony brings great joy to others. You are the guy > people see and smile about while they say to themselves "poetic justice". In your dreams... > If you are still bragging about publishing your name and unflattering > picture all over the internet along with your nasty attitude and foul > language, Hmmm, well that is your choice. At least I'm not a f.cking coward like you. SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Why do toasters always have a setting that burns the toast to a horrible crisp no one would eat? "Andrew DeFaria" <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote in message ---snip--- there is really no need for your bad-language on this group. respect this group or take a hike.. my2¢ Signature'Key ===== > "Andrew DeFaria" <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote in message > ---snip--- [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > my2¢ Ah, respectfully, no sir. I haven't let people try to control my usage of language since, well, since I turned 18. I'm not about to start now. When people act like idiots they deserve such language. You're free to disagree with that if you like but I'm also free to agree with it! If you don't like that well then I will _suggest_ that *you *take a hike - or not - your choice. (Will he actually notice the difference between my *suggesting* that he takes a hike vs. him *telling* me to take a hike? Probably not. Will he notice that I gave him a choice rather then an ultimatum? Again, probably not. One is definitely a lot more arrogant than the other. I will leave it to you to determine which one but I don't have high hopes...) SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> My friend has a baby. I'm writing down all the noises he makes so later I can ask him what he meant. >> "Andrew DeFaria" <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote in message >> ---snip--- [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > *take a hike - > or not - your choice. Well, your're WRONG about that Andrew. There are women that frequent this group and you SHOULD act like a man instead of a troll and respect them. > (Will he actually notice the difference between my > *suggesting* that he [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > will leave it to you to determine which one but I don't > have high hopes...) evidently you didn't notice. you were also given a choice. no real need for you to reply. you are going in the bozo-bin with the other clueless folks. keep up your poor attitude and I am sure that most of this particular group will also kill-file you and you will then be posting to only yourself. Signature'Key ===== >> Ah, respectfully, no sir. I haven't let people try to control my >> usage of language since, well, since I turned 18. I'm not about to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > this group and you SHOULD act like a man instead of a troll and > respect them. What do women have to do with it? f.ck women.... often! Respect son is something that's earned not given away for nothing. Just because you're a pussy and bow to the vagina doesn't mean that other men are. >> (Will he actually notice the difference between my *suggesting* that >> he takes a hike vs. him *telling* me to take a hike? Probably not. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >> have high hopes...) > evidently you didn't notice. Didn't notice what exactly? > you were also given a choice. Yes and I exercised my choice. Apparently you didn't like my choice. BFD! > no real need for you to reply. Nor was there a need for you to respond I might add. > you are going in the bozo-bin with the other clueless folks. Promises, promises... > keep up your poor attitude and I am sure that most of this particular > group will also kill-file you and you will then be posting to only > yourself. Go right ahead. Pussies like you I don't need to talk to. SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time. >>> "Andrew DeFaria" <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote in message >>> ---snip--- [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >There are women that frequent this group and you >SHOULD act like a man instead of a troll and respect them. Unfortunately the way he talks, I don't have much hope for him either. >> Well, your're WRONG about that Andrew. There are women that frequent >> this group and you SHOULD act like a man instead of a troll and >> respect them. > Unfortunately the way he talks, I don't have much hope for him either. Oh so you're a pussy too. Why am I not surprised... SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> One-seventh of your life is spent on Monday. >>> "Andrew DeFaria" <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote in message >>> ---snip--- [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > group > will also kill-file you and you will then be posting to only yourself. I plonked him long before this... AJM '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops) >>>> "Andrew DeFaria" <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote in message >>>> ---snip--- [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >AJM >'93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops) Excellent advice. It's obvious he's in need of attention and the poor soul has to do it here. Of course he'll probably reply to this post saying how pitiful I am (or something to that effect) but I'm not concerned. He's already said enough for all of us to see him for what he is ! >>>> "Andrew DeFaria" <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote in message >>>> ---snip--- [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > AJM > '93 Ruby coupe, 6 sp (both tops) Yea, I should have long ago too. Happy Holidays to You & Yours AJM Signature'Key ===== >>>>> "Andrew DeFaria" <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote in message >>>>> ---snip--- [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Happy Holidays to You & Yours AJM Right back atcha, 'Key. AJM - Washed the 'Vette today and put the cover on her... :o( >>> "Andrew DeFaria" <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote in message >>> ---snip--- [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >There are women that frequent this group and you >SHOULD act like a man instead of a troll and respect them. While I do agree with what you say, what about all this "Diversity" & "Equality" crap. If it is right for others, then it is supposed to be right for a woman. However, when wrong, then wrong for everyone regardless of gender. SignatureIf life is a waste of time, and time is a waste of life, then let's all get wasted together and have the time of our lives. > On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:05:34 -0600, "'Key" <Key@Ya.Net> > wrote [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > everyone > regardless of gender. doesn't apply to my comment to Andrew... didn't say it was right for anyone, woman or man... Signature'Key ===== >> On Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:05:34 -0600, "'Key" <Key@Ya.Net> >> wrote [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] >doesn't apply to my comment to Andrew... >didn't say it was right for anyone, woman or man... Well I do believe you said "There are women that frequent this group and you SHOULD act like a man instead of a troll and respect them." This then thereby infers that his behavior is acceptable to you if it were "not" for the women who might frequent the forum and only unacceptable because there are women who may frequent here. While I realize that this maybe a some what salient point most have a hard time grasping, or quite possibly even semantics, there is a point to be made. If women want all their "rights" & "equalities" that they are constantly nattering on about, especially in the workplace -- then there can only be one standard of behavior that does not take their gender into consideration. Again, good for the Goose, good for the Gander. Now if you had simply said his behavior was unacceptable without any qualifiers to gender or the ever infamous kiddie factor, I would have both 100% agreed & not brought up this point. It is all part of the great neutering of America dontcha know! SignatureIf life is a waste of time, and time is a waste of life, then let's all get wasted together and have the time of our lives. > On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 14:43:50 -0600, "'Key" <Key@Ya.Net> > wrote [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > and you SHOULD act like a man instead of a troll and > respect them." yep, sure did. > This then thereby infers that his behavior is acceptable > to you if it > were "not" for the women who might frequent the forum and > only > unacceptable because there are women who may frequent > here. no, I believe I knew what I meant. it was said that way so he may understand that this group in general does-not except that type of language, period... > While I realize that this maybe a some what salient point > most have a [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > good for the > Gander. well, I believe you are putting more into this then was entended. I am from the old school where we respected women just because they are women. > Now if you had simply said his behavior was unacceptable > without any > qualifiers to gender or the ever infamous kiddie factor, I > would have > both 100% agreed & not brought up this point. glad you brought that up. I should have also mentioned the "kiddie factor".... how you interoperate all this is up to you... g'day to ya -- 'Key > no, I believe I knew what I meant. > it was said that way so he may understand that this group in > general does-not except that type of language, period... This group is not capable of accepting (you idiot! It's not except!) or rejecting any language at all. This is Usenet. You don't have the power to censor people. Then again I see you're still struggling with the difference between except and accept... > I am from the old school where we respected women just > because they are women. I guess you don't believe that respect is earned. For if you bestow respect onto a gender merely because they possess vaginas, then you cheapen the concept of respect and show that you are not only stupid - but a pussy yourself! >> no, I believe I knew what I meant. >> it was said that way so he may understand that this group in [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >cheapen the concept of respect and show that you are not only stupid - >but a pussy yourself! I accept the fact that most people here have some brains except a few like yourself. >>> no, I believe I knew what I meant. it was said that way so he may >>> understand that this group in general does-not except that type of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I accept the fact that most people here have some brains except a few > like yourself. And I accept the fact that your a f.cking moron who cannot rise to the challenges presented to you. That you cannot seem to address a straight on argument and instead have to dodge issues by not addressing them when confronted by them. That you are a coward of the worse kind who cannot argue a point if his f.cking life depended on it, but instead has to use underhanded tactics because he lacks the brain power to use logic to defend himself, that he must hide behind anonymity because he is to cowardly to reveal his true identity, nor fight like a real man and stand up for his beliefs. You sir are the worse slime on this planet as exhibited by your behavior itself. Earth to Andrew DeFaria, you are a fat, crossed eyed, arrogant fool. You might try a little bit of your analysis on your own damn self. When you walk into a room and everyone in that room hates you, (BIG HINT) the problem is not them... Don't you just love that your name will be associated with this conversation forever??? I do. Andrew DeFaria you are repulsively UGLY, and NASTY to your core. observer wrote: On Dec 17, 9:37 am, "'Key" <K...@Ya.Net> wrote: no, I believe I knew what I meant. it was said that way so he may understand that this group in general does-not except that type of language, period... This group is not capable of accepting (you idiot! It's not except!) or rejecting any language at all. This is Usenet. You don't have the power to censor people. Then again I see you're still struggling with the difference between except and accept... I am from the old school where we respected women just because they are women. I guess you don't believe that respect is earned. For if you bestow respect onto a gender merely because they possess vaginas, then you cheapen the concept of respect and show that you are not only stupid - but a pussy yourself! I accept the fact that most people here have some brains except a few like yourself. And I accept the fact that your a f.cking moron who cannot rise to the challenges presented to you. That you cannot seem to address a straight on argument and instead have to dodge issues by not addressing them when confronted by them. That you are a coward of the worse kind who cannot argue a point if his f.cking life depended on it, but instead has to use underhanded tactics because he lacks the brain power to use logic to defend himself, that he must hide behind anonymity because he is to cowardly to reveal his true identity, nor fight like a real man and stand up for his beliefs. You sir are the worse slime on this planet as exhibited by your behavior itself. > Earth to Andrew DeFaria, you are a fat, crossed eyed, arrogant fool. You said that already. Can't you come up with anything else? Anything better? Anything of more substance? > You might try a little bit of your analysis on your own damn self. What fer? That's not the point here... > When you walk into a room and everyone in that room hates you, (BIG > HINT) the problem is not them... Next time that happens I'll let you know. Don't be holding your breath though... > Don't you just love that your name will be associated with this > conversation forever??? I do. Is that why you chose a handle? > Andrew DeFaria you are repulsively UGLY, and NASTY to your core. Again, you said that already. Gee you've run out of steam from the git go.. SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain. Andrew DeFaria, you just keep going on like you don't own a mirror, or can't tell after getting smacked up side your thick skull 15 different times by 15 different people that you behavior is unacceptable. You keep posting ignorant posts, I'll keep restating the painfully obvious. Andrew DeFaria, you are a fat, crossed eyed, arrogant fool. My Name Is Nobody wrote: Earth to Andrew DeFaria, you are a fat, crossed eyed, arrogant fool. You said that already. Can't you come up with anything else? Anything better? Anything of more substance? You might try a little bit of your analysis on your own damn self. What fer? That's not the point here... When you walk into a room and everyone in that room hates you, (BIG HINT) the problem is not them... Next time that happens I'll let you know. Don't be holding your breath though... Don't you just love that your name will be associated with this conversation forever??? I do. Is that why you chose a handle? Andrew DeFaria you are repulsively UGLY, and NASTY to your core. Again, you said that already. Gee you've run out of steam from the git go.. SignatureAndrew DeFaria For Sale: Parachute. Only used once, never opened, small stain. > Andrew DeFaria, you just keep going on like you don't own a mirror, or > can't tell after getting smacked up side your thick skull 15 different > times by 15 different people that you behavior is unacceptable. And it just pisses you off that there's not a god damned thing you can do about it. You just can't seem to understand the simple fact that I could give a rat's a.s what they hell you think. Truth is indeed in your chosen handle - it's not just your name - you are indeed nobody! And you can't help but respond too I see... > You keep posting ignorant posts, I'll keep restating the painfully > obvious. Andrew DeFaria, you are a fat, crossed eyed, arrogant fool. Correction - the painfully irrelevant... You keep saying the same tired and irrelevant sh.t because you have no real argument to speak of nor nothing relevant. You're a one trick pony with a boring story. And this from a person who is too much of a f.cking coward to even post his name... SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Very funny Scotty - now beam down my clothes. I don't need to do anything about it! It's already been done, Karma ya know. You are one UGLY son of a bitch, as you deserve to be... My Name Is Nobody wrote: Andrew DeFaria, you just keep going on like you don't own a mirror, or can't tell after getting smacked up side your thick skull 15 different times by 15 different people that you behavior is unacceptable. And it just pisses you off that there's not a god damned thing you can do about it. You just can't seem to understand the simple fact that I could give a rat's a.s what they hell you think. Truth is indeed in your chosen handle - it's not just your name - you are indeed nobody! And you can't help but respond too I see... You keep posting ignorant posts, I'll keep restating the painfully obvious. Andrew DeFaria, you are a fat, crossed eyed, arrogant fool. Correction - the painfully irrelevant... You keep saying the same tired and irrelevant sh.t because you have no real argument to speak of nor nothing relevant. You're a one trick pony with a boring story. And this from a person who is too much of a f.cking coward to even post his name... -- Andrew DeFaria Very funny Scotty - now beam down my clothes. > I don't need to do anything about it! It's already been done, Nothing has been done. > Karma ya know. Kama, like most mystical stuff, is bullshit. > You are one UGLY son of a bitch, as you deserve to be... Ya know that's really getting old - and getting nowhere... SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> In the 60's, people took acid to make the world appear weird. Now the world is weird and people take Prozac to make it appear normal. :>I don't need to do anything about it! It's already been done, Karma ya know. You are one UGLY son of a bitch, as you deserve to be... Andrew lives his life as an obnoxious in your face clueless boob. Everywhere he goes he's either marginalized or about to be ostracized for antisocial behavior. To be pitied and censored since unfortunately for the rest of us, idiots and morons with internet access are free to disrupt the alt.* hierarchy newsgroups. Kill filters were created to hold people like Andrew. :) :> "Andrew DeFaria" <Andrew@DeFaria.com> wrote in message news:4768c964$0$498$815e3792@news.qwest.net... :> My Name Is Nobody wrote: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] :> Andrew DeFaria :> Very funny Scotty - now beam down my clothes. "My Name Is Nobody" <nobody@msn.com> wrote in message ---snip--- just kill-file andrew the jerk and be done with him, so the rest of us don't have to see his clueless raft. g'day nobody@msn.com Signature'Key ===== > "My Name Is Nobody" <nobody@msn.com> wrote in message > ---snip--- [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > g'day nobody@msn.com Ah, hmmm... If you followed your own advice you wouldn't be reading my responses... SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> I just love the French. They taste just like chicken! - Hannibal Lecter >>>> no, I believe I knew what I meant. it was said that way so he may >>>> understand that this group in general does-not except that type of [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >stand up for his beliefs. You sir are the worse slime on this planet as >exhibited by your behavior itself. Well I would add that making an Ad Hominem attack on someone is usually not an effective methodology to use in an attempt to make your point or debate an issue. It pretty much shoots your credibility factor in the foot right out of the gate. SignatureIf life is a waste of time, and time is a waste of life, then let's all get wasted together and have the time of our lives. > Well I would add that making an Ad Hominem attack on someone is > usually not an effective methodology to use in an attempt to make your > point or debate an issue. It pretty much shoots your credibility > factor in the foot right out of the gate. I didn't initially come here to debate things, nor am I here to win a debate. However I fully believe on calling a spade a spade. I did not start this argument - I came in here asking for information. When people responded rudely I responded in kind. SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. - Isaac Asimov Apologizing in advance for the top posting ... Not true Andy, people did respond rudely to you initially. What they did was give you opinion when you were seeking information. You did not take kindly to others opinions on Nav systems and began responding in rude tones which have continually increased to the point where now you are acting like a total dick. Repeatedly you have responded to others that "no one" can control you or what you wish to post and yet your original issue with a few of the other posters was that you could not control how they chose to respond and your criticism for not answering in the manner you wanted. Hmmmm ... seems hypocritical to expect others to do what _you_ want while flaunting in their face that you are a "free spirit" and will post what and when including assaulting others with profanity ... just because you can. I'm sure you'll have some unreasoned response to this as well but myself and others here see what is really going on. We know for whom the bell "trolls", it "trolls" for thee. The Wolf With the Red Roses wrote: Well I would add that making an Ad Hominem attack on someone is usually not an effective methodology to use in an attempt to make your point or debate an issue. It pretty much shoots your credibility factor in the foot right out of the gate. I didn't initially come here to debate things, nor am I here to win a debate. However I fully believe on calling a spade a spade. I did not start this argument - I came in here asking for information. When people responded rudely I responded in kind. -- Andrew DeFaria Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. - Isaac Asimov > Apologizing in advance for the top posting ... > > Not true Andy, people did respond rudely to you initially. I agree! People did respond rudely or at least it was them that escalated things... > What they did was give you opinion when you were seeking information. > You did not take kindly to others opinions on Nav systems and began > responding in rude tones which have continually increased to the point > where now you are acting like a total dick. Why thank you but that's not exactly how it happened. I responding saying I was not looking for their off the topic opinions rather I was looking for information. They then began the escalation... > Repeatedly you have responded to others that "no one" can control you > or what you wish to post That's right. > and yet your original issue with a few of the other posters was that > you could not control how they chose to respond and your criticism for > not answering in the manner you wanted. Check your facts jack! I never stated nor thought that I could *control* how they responded, I just said that how they responded was not what I was looking for. > Hmmmm ... seems hypocritical to expect others to do what _you_ want > while flaunting in their face that you are a "free spirit" and will > post what and when including assaulting others with profanity ... just > because you can. That's because you're striking down your own strawman! Again, I didn't attempt to control what they posted, nor did I say that they can't post it - I just said it was not what I was looking for. Apparently you can't discern the difference between the two... > I'm sure you'll have some unreasoned response to this as well but > myself and others here see what is really going on. You see only what you want to see apparently. > We know for whom the bell "trolls", it "trolls" for thee. I ain't hearing no bells... SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> If you have a difficult task, give it to a lazy person; they'll find an easier way to do it. >Andrew DeFaria wrote: >> MikeSo wrote: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I agree! People did respond rudely or at least it was them that > escalated things... My typo. People did NOT respond rudely to you (as you well know). People gave you responses such as (and I will paraphrase here) "save your money, don't buy the GPS" or "get a portable model instead" or "I've not been happy with my GPS and here is why ..." In each of these cases you berated these people for not giving you what you wanted, which was GPS specs, information or access to the manual (which you did get rather early on in this thread) but instead gave you their opinion. It is dishonest for you to say otherwise, but do what you want because other readers of this thread and this newsgroup already know the truth. Got any other research you want someone else to do for you are can you go now? >> What they did was give you opinion when you were seeking information. >> You did not take kindly to others opinions on Nav systems and began [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > saying I was not looking for their off the topic opinions rather I > was looking for information. They then began the escalation... I had spoken to people like that it might not have gotten to where we are today but I went back and looked at this entire thread. You immediately started putting people down for giving opinion and not owners manuals and instructions. The first -bombs dropped came from you. Your responses ensured that things would escalate. >> Repeatedly you have responded to others that "no one" can control you >> or what you wish to post [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > control how they responded, I just said that how they responded was > not what I was looking for. Here is a quote from your post of Dec. 8: "Again (for the dense among you), vague griping was not requested - thoughts yes - vague gripping no. IOW surprisingly enough I was looking for information - not bitching. And even above I did say "I was really looking for...". Did you not see/get that or are you just being argumentative? Cause if you want an argument I'd be happy to oblige..." Looks more like you picking a fight than just letting someone know that you were looking for different information. From later in that same day: "Did it ever occur to your little pea brain there sonny that 1) I am grown up already, 2) I was asking for information - something a grown up seeks and 3) griping and bitching are the dominion of immature, non-grown up (actually not matured yet - age is not always a sign of maturity or intellect) people? Probably not. I mean after all you don't even have a real name yet!" <sarcasm> Yes, thats a sure way to keep things calm and the discusion reasonable around a newsgroup! </sarcasm> >> Hmmmm ... seems hypocritical to expect others to do what _you_ want >> while flaunting in their face that you are a "free spirit" and will [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > I ain't hearing no bells... I am not surprised. The ringing is deafening to other readers in the newsgroup. SignatureThanks, Mike > >Andrew DeFaria wrote: > >> MikeSo wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > My typo. People did NOT respond rudely to you (as you well know). Actually, no, I disagree with you on that. > People gave you responses such as (and I will paraphrase here) "save > your money, don't buy the GPS" or "get a portable model instead" or > "I've not been happy with my GPS and here is why ..." Instead of paraphrasing, which is inaccurate, why not quote, which would be more accurate? (But I see you managed to f.ck that up too - see below). > In each of these cases you berated these people for not giving you > what you wanted, which was GPS specs, information or access to the > manual (which you did get rather early on in this thread) but instead > gave you their opinion. Heaven forbid, I asked for specs! What so ever made me think that I should get those?!? Did you miss the part about me thanking the guy for giving me a pointer to the actual specs? You know, what I asked for in the first place? > It is dishonest for you to say otherwise, but do what you want because > other readers of this thread and this newsgroup already know the truth. It is not dishonest of me to say otherwise because otherwise is indeed the truth. > Got any other research you want someone else to do for you are can you > go now? "...are can you go now?". You really should make an effort to proofread your sh.t. Yeah I got some research for ya. How about you research your claims before making them! > >> What they did was give you opinion when you were seeking information. > >> You did not take kindly to others opinions on Nav systems and began [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > immediately started putting people down for giving opinion and not > owners manuals and instructions. When the question was "Where's the manuals?" opinions were the wrong answer. > The first -bombs dropped came from you. Your responses ensured that > things would escalate. Again, had they answered the questions there would be no escalation. Hell I didn't even really mind their opinions either but merely stated I was looking for more than just opinions. You make claims but provide no evidence. I will not address such claims. > >> Repeatedly you have responded to others that "no one" can control you > >> or what you wish to post [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Looks more like you picking a fight than just letting someone know > that you were looking for different information. Ah so he can do research and actually pull out a quote... Talk about intellectually dishonest however! Hmmm... Did you ever think that perhaps the word "Again" signifies that there was something before this? Oh no, let's now quote that. That would be wrong... > From later in that same day: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Yes, thats a sure way to keep things calm and the discusion reasonable > around a newsgroup! Again, don't cha think that a statement like "I am grown up already" might refer to a jab such as "Grow up" uttered by the guy before me? I don't know about you but most normally thinking people would call the guy saying "Grow up" as the one picking the fight. So let's review, you take quotes after the argument has already escalated and then say that I was picking the fight to start with!?! Anybody else see what's wrong with that picture? > </sarcasm> > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I am not surprised. The ringing is deafening to other readers in the > newsgroup. I see you left this little gem of a quote out. How could you forget though as you were the one who uttered it: > Do you molest your daughter often? Oh yeah, you're sure the calm one. No, you are always so nice to people. Never put them down. Never do anything like *lie your f.cking a.s off* nor anything like that. You're as intellectually dishonest as the day is long. You sir are the ugly one as only an ugly person would accuse another of such a vulgarity, and with not one shred of evidence whatsoever! Oh but sure ride your high horse as I ride *your *daughter! ;-) And I'm sure you're so f.cking stupid that you'll state I started that little argument too. f.cking dumbass! SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> When you do a good deed, get a receipt - In case heaven is like the IRS. > Oh yeah, you're sure the calm one. No, you are always so nice to > people. Never put them down. Never do anything like lie your f.cking [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > evidence whatsoever! Oh but sure ride your high horse as I ride your > daughter! ;-) Ha-ha-ha, what a fantastic wit you have there, my good man. Jolly good!! > And I'm sure you're so f.cking stupid that you'll state I started > that little argument too. f.cking dumbass! Nope, I took a shot at you. Proof is there for all to see. No need for me to lie about it. Hardly call it an arguement however. Then again, I probably wouldn't have taken the shot had you treated others differently. SignatureThanks, Mike > > Oh yeah, you're sure the calm one. No, you are always so nice to > > people. Never put them down. Never do anything like lie your f.cking [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Then again, I probably wouldn't have taken the shot had you treated > others differently. Talk about "proof there for all to see"! If we examine this little bit of proof we would find that 1) you never addressed the charges (i.e. dismissive) and 2) you actually did blame me for this argument anyway (i.e. "I wouldn't have taken the shot if you behaved differently'). Yes, the truth is there for all to see - you did exactly as I would have guessed - you were dismissive and blamed me for what you did. Two big signs of a scoundrel for sure. SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> The gene pool sure could use a little chlorine. :>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:55 -0800 (PST), Andrew DeFaria :><adefaria@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] :>I accept the fact that most people here have some brains except a few :>like yourself. Andrew has trouble configuring his newsreader properly, ie: HTML attachments. Clearly a buffoon, why would we assume he's anything but ? > :>On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 16:19:55 -0800 (PST), Andrew DeFaria > :><adefaria@gmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > attachments. Clearly a buffoon, why would we assume he's anything > but ? No, trouble dear - it's by design. I'm sure you don't agree with it. You're problem not mine. SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Sometimes too much drink is not enough. :>Sarah Czepiel wrote: :>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 23:25:16 -0600, observer wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] :>No, trouble dear - it's by design. I'm sure you don't agree with it. :>You're problem not mine. " You're " ?? BWAHAHAHA !!! And after you chastised another poster for grammar. A dozen posts and the entire newsgroup knows you're an a.shole. No wonder you're a virgin. If I thought you wouldn't blubber and cry I'd mention your atrocious punctuation. :) > :>No, trouble dear - it's by design. I'm sure you don't agree with it. > :>You're problem not mine. > > " You're " ?? BWAHAHAHA !!! Well I really could say "you *are* indeed a problem" however you're right, I made a mistake. I'm OK with admitting it... > And after you chastised another poster for grammar. Mistaken your for you're is pretty damn common. > A dozen posts and the entire newsgroup knows you're an a.shole. Why thank you! I can only wish that it would take less than a dozen posts in the future. > No wonder you're a virgin. Right. Tell my daughter that... > If I thought you wouldn't blubber and cry I'd mention your atrocious > punctuation. :) Go for it. I fully admit I'm human and make mistakes. Would you do likewise? Probably not. I see like most other idiots you change the topic instead of address the issues. Common ploy for those who have no real point nor skills in logic. SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> The statistics on sanity are that one out of every four Americans is suffering from some form of mental illness. Think of your three best friends. If they are okay, then it's you. >> :>No, trouble dear - it's by design. I'm sure you don't agree with it. >> :>You're problem not mine. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >I see like most other idiots you change the topic instead of address the >issues. Common ploy for those who have no real point nor skills in logic. The topic is about YOU !!! I guess you are proud of yourself because you managed to take a somewhat quiet newsgroup and get many to reply to your posts. It doesn't matter to you that it is in anger because you crave the "extra" attention you get that you know wouldn't happen otherwise if you post normal things like others here. I bet your wife (if you still have one) loves your views. And you must be a great role model to your daughter. Last I love the nonsense you talk about Common ploys. Look in the mirror buddy. <observer> wrote in message ---snip--- just kill-file andrew the jerk and be done with him, so the rest of us don't have to see his clueless raft. g'day to you & yours "observer" Signature'Key ===== :><observer> wrote in message :>---snip--- :> :>just kill-file andrew the jerk and be done with him, :>so the rest of us don't have to see his clueless raft. Yep. The witless fool thinks people are still reading his ranting screeds. A total waste of time.... > :><observer> wrote in message > :>---snip--- [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Yep. The witless fool thinks people are still reading his ranting > screeds. A total waste of time.... Again, if he had followed his own advice he wouldn't be responding and complaining about seeing my "clueless raft". And ya know, there's nothing forcing you to read this thread. No, it clear, Key et. al. are just dying to continue reading and that such much more about them than me... Bottom line is many people claim to <plonk> and kill file but don't... SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> I thought about how mothers feed their babies with tiny little spoons and forks so I wondered, what do Chinese mothers use? Toothpicks? > The topic is about YOU !!! No, the topic, as indicated by the subject - remember the subject? - as about a GPS Nav unit in a 2008 vette. The *drift* has become an attack on me. And each time I address your points (e.g. I need a vette - I don't need a vette, I'm a virgin, with a daughter, etc.) you (and others) instead change the topic to some other insult that you hurl at me. This is precisely because I've addressed your issues squarely and you have no refutation to submit. > I guess you are proud of yourself because you managed to take a > somewhat quiet newsgroup and get many to reply to your posts. Couldn't care less... > It doesn't matter to you that it is in anger because you crave the > "extra" attention you get that you know wouldn't happen otherwise if > you post normal things like others here. I don't crave the attention at all! Want prove? Simple stop responding with yet more silly insults and I guarantee you I won't respond. My query has long since been answered and I even took the time to thank the person who read the question and answered it squarely. > I bet your wife (if you still have one) loves your views. Wife?!? I've learned! Wife's are worth it! > And you must be a great role model to your daughter. Actually, idiot, a role model for a girl would be a woman. > Last I love the nonsense you talk about Common ploys. Look in the > mirror buddy. At least I address the issues you raise instead of cowardly switch topics (and hide behind handles...) SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> The cost of living hasn't affected its popularity. >> The topic is about YOU !!! >No, the topic, as indicated by the subject - remember the subject? - as [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] >At least I address the issues you raise instead of cowardly switch >topics (and hide behind handles...) Yeah right. <observer> wrote in message ---snip--- Andrew is sure one of the most clueless idiots thats been around here in quiet a while. just kill-file the jerk and be done with him.. g'day to ya observer Signature'Key ===== > <observer> wrote in message > ---snip--- > > Andrew is sure one of the most clueless idiots thats been around here > in quiet a while. just kill-file the jerk and be done with him.. Ya mean like you obviously did? ;-) SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Ever wonder what the speed of lightning would be if it didn't zigzag? >>> The topic is about YOU !!! >> No, the topic, as indicated by the subject - remember the subject? - [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >> topics (and hide behind handles...) > Yeah right. Wow! I mean those two words really address every issue and topic I've mentioned in my response! How do you do it! :-D SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> I tried to backup my hard drive but I couldn't figure out how to put it in reverse <snip> >> And you must be a great role model to your daughter. >Actually, idiot, a role model for a girl would be a woman. That is a rather off-the-wall sexist & extremely myopic view of what exactly a "Role Model" can & should be. Most when refer to Role-Models are talking about values & actions to be admired & emulated. These are not gender specific things. SignatureIf life is a waste of time, and time is a waste of life, then let's all get wasted together and have the time of our lives. >>> And you must be a great role model to your daughter. >> Actually, idiot, a role model for a girl would be a woman. > That is a rather off-the-wall sexist & extremely myopic view of what > exactly a "Role Model" can & should be. No it's my opinion. Girls tend to want to be like their mothers, not their fathers as boys tend to want to be like their fathers, not their mothers. You can't seriously say you haven't noticed such a trend! > Most when refer to Role-Models are talking about values & actions to > be admired & > emulated. These are not gender specific things. How touchy and feely... SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Jack Kevorkian for White House physician. >>The Wolf With the Red Roses wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >No it's my opinion. A rather myopic, sexist and dare I say ignorant opinion. Of course, it may the best thing for your daughter to not see her father as a role model as it would most likely have a devastatingly negative effect upon her. Let's hope she grows up acting decently to strangers instead of assaulting them with little to no provocation. >Girls tend to want to be like their mothers, not their fathers as boys tend >to want to be like their fathers, not their mothers. You [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >How touchy and feely... Do you molest your daughter often? >>> That is a rather off-the-wall sexist & extremely myopic view of what >>> exactly a "Role Model" can & should be. >> No it's my opinion. > A rather myopic, sexist and dare I say ignorant opinion. Well you are welcome to your own opinion, as wrong as I happen to believe it is... > Of course, it may the best thing for your daughter to not see her > father as a role model as it would most likely have a devastatingly [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > assaulting > them with little to no provocation. ... even if the strangers started the assault. I see, you wish for me to role model to my daughter to be a pussy and let people insult and walk all over me. Right. Well all I can say is that I disagree with your assessment. >> Girls tend to want to be like their mothers, not their fathers as >> boys tend [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >> How touchy and feely... > Do you molest your daughter often? No, but I do molest *your daughter* often... :-P (AKA if you make an irrelevant and quite rude assertion and ask such a vile question intended on attempting to strike hard at me, supposedly committing a highly illegal, offensive and vulgar act - all the while attempting to play one of the "nice guys" and assert that *I'm* the rude one! Ha! - then don't be surprised when I come right back at cha the same way! Oh, and BTW, I stopped doing your wife because she became a dried up, ugly douche bag and so I switched to your daughter. I still wonder how you can continue to do your wife - if you do anymore at all... Now go f.ck yourself you sick, sick person... Had you had the balls to reveal your true identity and ask such a vile question in person I'd be having you in court by now for slander you f.cking idiot! Of course, you got no balls...) SignatureAndrew DeFaria <http://defaria.com> Ultimate office automation: networked coffee. >>>> And you must be a great role model to your daughter. >>> Actually, idiot, a role model for a girl would be a woman. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >their fathers as boys tend to want to be like their fathers, not their >mothers. You can't seriously say you haven't noticed such a trend! While you're opinion it has been disproved in valid peer-reviewed scientific studies. Under your theory if a female child's mother is dead, they themselves would aspire to be expired. >> Most when refer to Role-Models are talking about values & actions to >> be admired & >> emulated. These are not gender specific things. >How touchy and feely... Not really, in case you haven't been out & about much lately, today's world has become very gender non-specific in a lot of things. I'm quite sure your aware of things like single fathers who raise non-butch daughters aren't you? SignatureIf life is a waste of time, and time is a waste of life, then let's all get wasted together and have the time of our lives. >> No it's my opinion. Girls tend to want to be like their mothers, not >> their fathers as boys tend to want to be like their fathers, not >> their mothers. You can't seriously say you haven't noticed such a trend! > While you're opinion it has been disproved in valid peer-reviewed > scientific studies. Like... References please... > Under your theory if a female child's mother is dead, they themselves > would aspire to be expired. Yet another non sequitur. I said "girls *tend* to want to be like their mothers". Where and when did that turn into "girls *must* be like their mothers..."? Perhaps one of those nameless peer-reviewed scientific studies... Here's the shortcut - "tend" does not mean "always". Therefore it does follow that in cases where a female child's mother is dead one (who has 1/2 a brain) might conclude that said child would probably not aspire to be expired... Geeze... >>> Most when refer to Role-Models are talking about values & actions to >>> be admired & emulated. These are not gender specific things. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > quite sure your aware of |
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