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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Corvette / January 2008

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Cold weather Black Paint care

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My Name Is Nobody - 28 Jan 2008 21:27 GMT
Please offer any or all of your first hand experience and suggestions for
washing drying and or waxing a factory new black paint job, especially now
in the cold weather.  What tools materials and products do you find work
best for you?

Thanks
pj - 29 Jan 2008 00:02 GMT
> Please offer any or all of your first hand experience and suggestions for
> washing drying and or waxing a factory new black paint job, especially now
> in the cold weather.  What tools materials and products do you find work
> best for you?
>
> Thanks

Welcome to the anal world of Corvette car washing!

Sorry, quick draw but, I have no 'first hand'
experience -- just 60 years of trial and error.

Assuming this car was painted in Bowling Green,
KY.....

Find a detergent that plays well with the water
in Portland Oregon.  (For example: in
Northwestern Ohio, it's tap water+Dawn. Where I
live it's city water thru the softener+Zymol. In
Pensacola it's something else --- )

Don't use a sponge with the wash.  Sponges hold
all manner of dirt.  Old, clean facecloths
that've been washed and dried (without fabric
softener) will do fine.  If you remove a mud
splash, switch to a clean washcloth.

If you're having issues with water spotting,
find a good wetting agent to use as a rinse. (I
like Kodak Fotoflo.)

This group can argue for ages over careful use
of a clean squeegee blade versus light toweling
till dry.  I squeegee the white car and towel
the dark car.  Get it dry before the sun hits it.

Forget using a chamois or any of the
chamois-like cloths on TV commercials -- more
opportunity to add micro scratches to the finish.

For lint removal, go for a *quick* drive..
unless the car wasn't painted in Bowling Green
-- then discard all of the above advice.

If it's new and you take good care of it, you
can avoid wax, teflon, etc. for many years.

Learn about items like clay-bars to keep the
finish clean.

Once you get wax on it it will be more difficult
to wash.

Avoid anything that has a power cord and plug on it.

There, you got it.  From the quicker draw.
--
pj
Dad - 29 Jan 2008 16:21 GMT
>> Please offer any or all of your first hand experience and
>> suggestions for washing drying and or waxing a factory new black
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>
> Assuming this car was painted in Bowling Green, KY.....

Why? He never said it was a Corvette.

> Find a detergent that plays well with the water in Portland Oregon.
> (For example: in Northwestern Ohio, it's tap water+Dawn. Where I
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> --
> pj

All good advice as usual but I'd add one thing.

When you rinse do it with an open hose, not a spray. Let the water
sheet off instead of beading up to spot. It leaves much less water on
the surface to wipe/blow/dab off.

I seldom use wax so you're on your own there, just a detailer every
now and then and keep it clean.
Tom In Missouri - 29 Jan 2008 20:29 GMT
Well, take that black car and paint it medium blue, medium red, medium
brown, ANYTHING BUT BLACK! and you will solve all sorts of problems.  Kick
me in the butt if I ever buy another black car.

They look fantastic clean, but that exist for about 20 minutes unless you
take it out of the garage, and then it is for about 5 minutes.  Ask me how I
know.  I washed and waxed the Camaro Sunday evening.  Drove the kid to
school Monday and came home. Drove to school today and to pick up coffee.
As I got out, I noticed that the car looked like I hadn't washed in a week
or two along the sides.

I do wax, not every wash, but once in awhile.  The wax helps get the bugs
off, and the other junk that seems to be on the road and sprayed all over
the car.  Shine-wise, I don't think the wax does anything for the clear coat
paints out today.  If you were dealing with a black lacquer paint, then the
wax makes it look ten foot deep.

In cold weather, it probably means you are going to have all sorts of junk
on the road - mud, dirt, water, salt, deicer, etc.  So the best way to keep
it clean is park it under a cover and not drive the darn thing.

I towel dry, and use several towels.  I have a pile of old ones that are
just for it to keep the wife happy.  So I can use several.

If you can get an old chamois, one that is a real chamois, it will work well
but tends to strip the wax off. I'm not sure what that would do with a clear
coat.  Most today are a synthetic chamois, not real leather, so they act a
lot differently than a real one.

I've tried a couple of the microfiber towels, and was not overwhelmed enough
to buy any.

> >> Please offer any or all of your first hand experience and
> >> suggestions for washing drying and or waxing a factory new black
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> I seldom use wax so you're on your own there, just a detailer every
> now and then and keep it clean.
My Name Is Nobody - 30 Jan 2008 22:36 GMT
> Well, take that black car and paint it medium blue, medium red, medium
> brown, ANYTHING BUT BLACK! and you will solve all sorts of problems.  Kick
> me in the butt if I ever buy another black car.

Ah, but I'm addicted to black, Black looks better than any other color, even
dirty...

> They look fantastic clean, but that exist for about 20 minutes unless you
> take it out of the garage, and then it is for about 5 minutes.  Ask me how
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> enough
> to buy any.

Thanks

>> >> Please offer any or all of your first hand experience and
>> >> suggestions for washing drying and or waxing a factory new black
[quoted text clipped - 57 lines]
>> I seldom use wax so you're on your own there, just a detailer every
>> now and then and keep it clean.
My Name Is Nobody - 30 Jan 2008 22:33 GMT
>>> Please offer any or all of your first hand experience and suggestions
>>> for washing drying and or waxing a factory new black paint job,
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>
> Why? He never said it was a Corvette.

Correct, sorry did not intend to mislead, simply tap the greatest
concentration of fine automobile car care enthusiasts I have access to...
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>> Find a detergent that plays well with the water in Portland Oregon. (For
>> example: in Northwestern Ohio, it's tap water+Dawn. Where I live it's
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> I seldom use wax so you're on your own there, just a detailer every now
> and then and keep it clean.

Thank you
My Name Is Nobody - 30 Jan 2008 22:29 GMT
>> Please offer any or all of your first hand experience and suggestions for
>> washing drying and or waxing a factory new black paint job, especially
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> --
> pj

Thank you.
 
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