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Spud - 25 Mar 2008 02:45 GMT
Ok, I've got the dreaded "SERVICE STEERING COLUMN" on my 2004 Z06.   Other
than I need to go to the dealer and fight with them over warranty coverage,
what does this error message usually mean?  The steering column adjustment
and lock up when you turn off the key seem ok.  The ignition seems ok.

Ed.
Don - 25 Mar 2008 14:21 GMT
> Ok, I've got the dreaded "SERVICE STEERING COLUMN" on my 2004 Z06.   Other
> than I need to go to the dealer and fight with them over warranty coverage,
> what does this error message usually mean?  The steering column adjustment
> and lock up when you turn off the key seem ok.  The ignition seems ok.
>
> Ed.

Does it say "SERVICE STEERING COLUMN"  or "SERVICE COLUMN LOCK"?
ZÿRiX - 25 Mar 2008 16:33 GMT
>> Ok, I've got the dreaded "SERVICE STEERING COLUMN" on my 2004 Z06.
>> Other than I need to go to the dealer and fight with them over warranty
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>>
> Does it say "SERVICE STEERING COLUMN"  or "SERVICE COLUMN LOCK"?

Mine says  "SERVICE COLUMN LOCK" ever since the dealer did the recall...
It comes on the DIC every time I start the car they had it for months and
could not find out why it is doing
that, So I just clear it every time, It runs great I just hate to see that
message every time...

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The Reverend Natural Light - 25 Mar 2008 19:54 GMT
> ... So I just clear it every time, It runs great I just hate to see that
> message every time...

I have Michelin Pilot Sport runflat tires and after 20,000 miles of
non-stop "LOW TIRE PRESS LR", "LOW TIRE PRESS RR", I have completely
tuned out the DIC.  Won't miss that when Goodyears go back on it.
Dad - 25 Mar 2008 22:45 GMT
On Mar 25, 11:33 am, ZÿRiX <o...@net.com> wrote:

>> ... So I just clear it every time, It runs great I just hate to see
>> that
>> message every time...

>I have Michelin Pilot Sport runflat tires and after 20,000 miles of
>non-stop "LOW TIRE PRESS LR", "LOW TIRE PRESS RR", I have completely
>tuned out the DIC.  Won't miss that when Goodyears go back on it.

You know why the system won't read the pressure? You don't need
Goodyear tires.
The Reverend Natural Light - 25 Mar 2008 23:10 GMT
> >I have Michelin Pilot Sport runflat tires and after 20,000 miles of
> >non-stop "LOW TIRE PRESS LR", "LOW TIRE PRESS RR", I have completely
> >tuned out the DIC.  Won't miss that when Goodyears go back on it.
>
> You know why the system won't read the pressure? You don't need
> Goodyear tires.

The system works fine.  The problem is, the Michelin rear tires balded
in the center at the GM recommended pressure.  I've been running them
at 22psi hoping to get some more life out them.  Thus the tire
pressure warnings.  This seems to be a common issue with those tires.
It's a shame since otherwise they're the best tires I've ever used.

A shiny new set of Goodyear Eagle F1 All-Seasons are already stacked
in the corner of the garage waiting to go on.  It's due for the state
inspection next month so I'll have them installed at the same time.
Dad - 26 Mar 2008 02:25 GMT
>> >I have Michelin Pilot Sport runflat tires and after 20,000 miles
>> >of
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> state
> inspection next month so I'll have them installed at the same time.

Now I'm even more confused than I was before. First off GM does not
recommend a tire pressure for any tire other than the OEM tire. A
quick call to them will get the buck passed to Michelin for their
recommendation. Michelin will most likely tell you to use the pressure
recommended by the automobile manufacturer for the appropriate tire.
In other words you got to make your own decision for the tire
pressure. Been there, done that and the seller of the tire requests
that you sign a release for a tire that is not OEM. That has held true
for the last 4 sets of tires I've purchased for the C5 and C6 of which
only one replacement set was Goodyear runflats.

The only way I've been able to get a near correct tire pressure for
the non OEM tires I've used was to check the recommended tire pressure
on an automobile that uses the tire I wanted to use, (Audi-Mercedes).
Only issue in doing that is that there are very few cars that use
different tire sizes front to rear. Then it needs to be tweaked a bit
to get it to handle normally. The softer walls on the Goodyear F1 all
season tire will feel spongy in any hard handling situations. Kinda
scary the first time it happens to you so be aware, (they feel like
the are all flat).

Get a very consistent pressure gage and check tire pressure and wear
often until you get then settled in and you'll have much better luck
this time around.
ROBERT S AMP BA Drake - 04 Apr 2008 15:28 GMT
Dad,  I run the Michelin ZP (Zero Pressure) run flats and have been soooo
happy with them over the Goodyears.  Much quieter.  Bob
2000 C5

>>> >I have Michelin Pilot Sport runflat tires and after 20,000 miles of
>>> >non-stop "LOW TIRE PRESS LR", "LOW TIRE PRESS RR", I have completely
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> until you get then settled in and you'll have much better luck this time
> around.
Dad - 04 Apr 2008 16:54 GMT
> Dad,  I run the Michelin ZP (Zero Pressure) run flats and have been
> soooo happy with them over the Goodyears.  Much quieter.  Bob
> 2000 C5

Not sure what you're telling me, I was answering a question, not
asking one, but as always you trade one thing for another with tires.
The tread design makes them more quiet, not the tire brand. Myself I
gave up on Michelin a long time ago. To hard as they age and traction
sucks. With their tread design they should be more quiet but don't try
pushing them like you can the OEM, which is also a compromise.

Right now I'm running Goodyear, Dunlop, and Continental, of the three
Continental is my choice followed by Dunlop and then Goodyear. Only
problem is that Continental does not make an ContiEtremeContact in 19"
for my C6 or I have them.

I must admit the price looks good on the Michlin ZP for the C5.

Here is some of the reviews from the Diaper owners.......

"They are heavy, have modest grip, and they wear out in 12,000 miles.
All standard run flat characteristics. But, they won't leave you
stranded if you have a flat. Which is why I bought 'em instead of more
grippy choices that were avaialble. If I took the car to the track,
this would have been a poor choice. But for the street, they made
sense."

"The run flats on Vipers aren't called run-craps for nothing. My
grandma on a 10-speed bike has better traction off the line than these
tires give on a performance car. Their only positive quality is that
they last a long time, but that just means that you have dangerously
bad tires for a long time. I'm changing to PS2 or PSCups."

"As with the front tires on my Viper there isnt much choice in what
tires to get. This is my third set of PS2s for the 19 in rear wheels
of my Viper, and these are excellent tires unless you get onto snow or
ice...then you go nowhere at all. Not surprising. Tread life was
14,000 miles for the first set, the second set went over 16,000. About
what one expects based on the experience of other Viper owners."

If your happy that's what counts, not what other people think.

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Venger - 26 Mar 2008 04:18 GMT
>>> I have Michelin Pilot Sport runflat tires and after 20,000 miles of
>>> non-stop "LOW TIRE PRESS LR", "LOW TIRE PRESS RR", I have completely
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> in the center at the GM recommended pressure.  I've been running them
> at 22psi hoping to get some more life out them.

Is the recommended pressure loaded or off the car?

Venger
Don - 26 Mar 2008 15:43 GMT
>>> Ok, I've got the dreaded "SERVICE STEERING COLUMN" on my 2004 Z06.
>>> Other than I need to go to the dealer and fight with them over
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> that, So I just clear it every time, It runs great I just hate to see
> that message every time...

There are 3 diff GM fixes for this problem, none of which work.  The car
will leave you stranded, it's not a matter of if but of when.  There is
a simple aftermarket fix called a CLB that costs $50 and takes 20 min to
install.  Look here for more than you ever wanted to know about this issue:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=1015483

I have no connection to the firms that sell this thing but I do have one
on my 02 Coupe.
Spud - 29 Mar 2008 01:03 GMT
> There are 3 diff GM fixes for this problem, none of which work.  The car
> will leave you stranded, it's not a matter of if but of when.  There is a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> I have no connection to the firms that sell this thing but I do have one
> on my 02 Coupe.

Thanks Don.  I found this sentice in the link you posted:

"Low battery voltage seems to aggravate and sometimes cause column lock
failures"

Well, I didn't drive the car for about 4 weeks and left the radar detector
on.  Had to jump it.  Wasn't totally dead, it clicked.  But the jump start
must have started the problem.

I'm still under warranty and I guess there's a recall.  But it says they
don't put in the jumper in a ZO6.  So I might have to fix it myself.  I'll
go over to the Chevy dealer next week and report back.

If you install the column lock bypass, does it disable the security system?

Ed
Don - 30 Mar 2008 02:14 GMT
> "Low battery voltage seems to aggravate and sometimes cause column lock
> failures"
>
> If you install the column lock bypass, does it disable the security system?
>
> Ed

Low voltage has been known to cause this problem.

The CLB has no effect on the security system.  It merely plugs in place
of the column lock servo motor and sends a signal to the BCM saying all
is well with the column lock system.

Good luck
ZÿRiX - 12 Apr 2008 09:25 GMT
>>>> Ok, I've got the dreaded "SERVICE STEERING COLUMN" on my 2004 Z06.
>>>> Other than I need to go to the dealer and fight with them over warranty
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> I have no connection to the firms that sell this thing but I do have one
> on my 02 Coupe.

First off I want to thank you for turning me onto this little CLB or CLS as
the company calls it...
Ok here is what happened, I went out to the garage to start it up and the
battery was dead, pulled the battery and took it to a local shop to charge
it, Got it back 4 hours later, got home and she cranked right over BUT
had a "Pull key wait 10 seconds" warning and "SERVICE COLUMN LOCK"
So I tried all of the pull key 10 seconds, pull fuse 23, pull fuse 25
NOTHING would let me move over 2 miles an hour without shutting
down the engine...
So I start making calls and everybody has all of these strange things to do
like disconnect the battery 10 seconds then reconnect and do that 3 times
I asked him do I need to stand on one foot while doing it...
Anyway I got pissed and said what the hell I am down here messing
with all of the fuses I might as well install the CLS and si I did, Started
it
and it sayd Pull key wait 10 seconds and I thought sh.t so I did,
Pull the key and wait 10 seconds and fired it back up and it works
great no more shut off and no more service column lock error...

For just $51 total including shipping this works great...
I wish somebody had told me about this before....

Thank you..

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Spud - 29 Mar 2008 00:42 GMT
> Does it say "SERVICE STEERING COLUMN"  or "SERVICE COLUMN LOCK"?

"SERVICE COLUMN LOCK"

Ed
Venger - 29 Mar 2008 00:43 GMT
>> Does it say "SERVICE STEERING COLUMN"  or "SERVICE COLUMN LOCK"?
>
> "SERVICE COLUMN LOCK"

Let me tell you my story with that. 2002 C5.

Never had a problem with it. Received a recall notice. Took to dealer.
Had work done. Two weeks later, it locked in the tightest possible
parking place at the worst angle possible for towing approximately
452523889433 miles from my house.

Thanks GM. Thanks alot.

Venger
 
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