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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Corvette / July 2009

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Thanks for Run Flat Tires

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aRKay - 21 Jun 2009 21:18 GMT
We had a major tire event on the way over to Pearland, TX on the Sam
Houston Toll Road out in the boonies.  The C5's DIC (digital information
display) went nuts saying WARNING right rear tire needs service NOW.

We were in the boonies and there was NO place to stop for service. I
just slowed down from 80 to 50 and keep on trucking on the Goodyear
Run Flat tire for about 30 or 40 miles.  Finally found a Discount Tire
place they fixed it for me - for no charge.

This is why I will continue to buy tired from Discount Tire and I will
no longer bad mouth the noise of the run flat tires.
IlBeBauck@gmail.com - 26 Jun 2009 13:36 GMT
> We had a major tire event on the way over to Pearland, TX on the Sam
> Houston Toll Road out in the boonies.  The C5's DIC (digital information
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> This is why I will continue to buy tired from Discount Tire and I will
> no longer bad mouth the noise of the run flat tires.

Im glad they worked out good for you in a desperate moment.  However,
I swapped mine out right after i bought my 2006 LS2 Vette and went
with Michelin PS2's with Tire Repair Kit and Portable air compressor.
The noise was rediculous on the Run Flats and destroyed the pleasure
of owning a world class Sports car.
Gary Mishler - 26 Jun 2009 15:27 GMT
On Jun 21, 3:18 pm, aRKay <arkayREM...@qsl.net> wrote:
> We had a major tire event on the way over to Pearland, TX on the Sam
> Houston Toll Road out in the boonies. The C5's DIC (digital information
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> This is why I will continue to buy tired from Discount Tire and I will
> no longer bad mouth the noise of the run flat tires.

Im glad they worked out good for you in a desperate moment.  However,
I swapped mine out right after i bought my 2006 LS2 Vette and went
with Michelin PS2's with Tire Repair Kit and Portable air compressor.
The noise was rediculous on the Run Flats and destroyed the pleasure
of owning a world class Sports car.

Totally agreed.  The noise, plus the harsh ride.  I gave it a lot of
consideration and decided to accept the odds.  I'm taking my chances with
the PS2's, a repair kit, compressor and AAA Motor Club.  Could not be
happier as the difference in ride, noise, handling makes the world class
sports car much more enjoyable to own and drive.
pj - 27 Jun 2009 03:42 GMT
> On Jun 21, 3:18 pm, aRKay <arkayREM...@qsl.net> wrote:
>> We had a major tire event on the way over to Pearland, TX on the Sam
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> happier as the difference in ride, noise, handling makes the world class
> sports car much more enjoyable to own and drive.

I'm with Gary. No run-flats on the '02. I go bare.

Corvettes are not off-road vehicles.  So, AAA, a
dual-mode cell phone and a canteen of water
works in my C5.

In the last 50 years of driving I've had to call
for help eight, perhaps ten times. Only one of
those has involved a tire failure (a new tire
that had a total carcass failure).  Most have
been from electrical failures (2-alternators,
1-belt, 2-batteries).  Based on those numbers, I
should carry an alternator, spare battery and
the tools to change them.

:)
--
pj
Blue C5 - 27 Jun 2009 13:54 GMT
> "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> happier as the difference in ride, noise, handling makes the world class
> sports car much more enjoyable to own and drive.

I went to Michelin ZPs (Zero Pressure) and they are much quieter than
the GoodYears.  Glad I did it.  I like the security of the run flats.
I don't want to stop on a highway and reinflate a tire.  My Malibu
Hybrid has the compressor & inflater - considering throwing a spare in
there with a jack.
Dad - 26 Jun 2009 15:59 GMT
On Jun 21, 3:18 pm, aRKay <arkayREM...@qsl.net> wrote:
> We had a major tire event on the way over to Pearland, TX on the Sam
> Houston Toll Road out in the boonies. The C5's DIC (digital
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> will
> no longer bad mouth the noise of the run flat tires.

+Im glad they worked out good for you in a desperate moment.  However,
+I swapped mine out right after i bought my 2006 LS2 Vette and went
+with Michelin PS2's with Tire Repair Kit and Portable air compressor.
+The noise was rediculous on the Run Flats and destroyed the pleasure
+of owning a world class Sports car.

Dave, I have no idea why you keep this story going other then for the
attention. You claim that you changed them with less than 300 miles on
them and none of the Corvette tires I know of were noisy until the got
about 8,000 miles on them. Although all tires have road noise the
Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S-C EMT you had are some of the most quiet
Corvette tires being used today. My experience is with all of the
tires offered on the C5 and the C6 plus 3 sets of non runflats and of
those that were noisy were the C5 runflats that had cupped with
between 8 and 10,000 miles on them. The first set of non run flats are
still on that '98 C5, saw it yesterday, and he said they are starting
to get noisy with 26,000 miles on them. They have a tread pattern
similar to the Goodyear Eagle F1 A/S-C EMT you had and were always
very quiet.

Most of the tire noise due to wear comes from an alignment issue that
can be changed very easily. That question was answered on the
Corvetteactioncenter.com long ago. Change to Camber to as close to 0
as possible will negate the inner shoulder wear that is so common.
Toe, .05 left and right to reduce scalloping of the tire edges.

SwaveDave said this on Corvetteactioncenter.com 4/25/06 "Take a tour
thru the Bowling Green,KY Corvette Assembly Plant and youll be
convinced that the C6 is the best corvette thus far. As for what i
dont care for on mine : 1. Too much rear road noise even after
changing out the RunFlat tires. So im going to insulate the heck out
of it. Minor correction issue to me. 2. Didn't care for the way the
MN6 shifts especially when cold. I changed to Royal Purple Synthetic
Fluid and it noticeably shifts better. Thats all the complaints i have
about mine. Its a well engineered and built Corvette and is incredible
value for the money."

I would guess that the tire choice/change was not as great as you say
in the post to this news group.
spud - 26 Jun 2009 17:58 GMT
Why's everyone so pissy here?   The group is almost dead and the remaining
few want to bicker.  Don't get it.

Just my $0.02, Ed
Clams Canino - 26 Jun 2009 21:49 GMT
> Why's everyone so pissy here?   The group is almost dead and the remaining
> few want to bicker.  Don't get it.
>
> Just my $0.02, Ed

What web based boards are the best for info?  Particularly regarding the C3
?

I'm putting all new suspension on mine... and I'd love to have the kind of
precise alignment info on the C3 w/ HD suspension VS the BF Goodrich Radial
TA - that Dad just posted about the later cars.

-W
Roy - 27 Jun 2009 14:22 GMT
>> Why's everyone so pissy here?   The group is almost dead and the
>> remaining
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> C3
> ?

You could try here,
www.corvetteforum.com
IlBeBauck@gmail.com - 27 Jun 2009 13:03 GMT
> "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
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> I would guess that the tire choice/change was not as great as you say
> in the post to this news group.

Well, the Poster below me agreed with my analysis on the tire noise.
And yes, I did change them out after a few hundred miles. And no, I
dont post here for narcissism.
pj - 27 Jun 2009 15:14 GMT
>> "IlBeBa...@gmail.com" <ilbeba...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
[quoted text clipped - 56 lines]
> And yes, I did change them out after a few hundred miles. And no, I
> dont post here for narcissism.

This might seem a bit strange to folk with good
hearing...  But, bear with me on this.

My sensitivity to tire noise is probably the
result of 'lousy' hearing.  With limited
'bandpass' (can't hear much above 3500Hz), noise
within my 'good range' pretty much wipes out
anything else and becomes an overpowering part
of the driving experience.

Folk with better hearing probably don't notice,
or are at least are not annoyed by, tire noise
to the degree that us 'old farts' are.

A pair of Bose noise-canceling headphones did
help.  But they are illegal in our state. One
can sneak by on open stretches of the Interstate
but, around town on metropolitan freeways
they'll solicit a ticket.  Another example of a
revenue $$$ producing law since there's no
hearing requirement to get a driver's license.  :-(

--
pj
JimH - 27 Jun 2009 20:40 GMT
> This might seem a bit strange to folk with good hearing...  But, bear
> with me on this.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> ticket.  Another example of a revenue $$$ producing law since there's no
> hearing requirement to get a driver's license.  :-(

I'm with you on this, PJ. I have a severe hearing loss in my right ear.
I can't hear my passenger very well, but tire noise and road noise are
load and clear.
Clams Canino - 27 Jun 2009 22:12 GMT
> I'm with you on this, PJ. I have a severe hearing loss in my right ear.
> I can't hear my passenger very well, but tire noise and road noise are
> load and clear.

Might I suggest louder exhaust for the hearing impaired?  :)

-W
JimH - 27 Jun 2009 23:48 GMT
>> I'm with you on this, PJ. I have a severe hearing loss in my right ear.
>> I can't hear my passenger very well, but tire noise and road noise are
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> -W

Makin' fun of the deaf guy huh?

I think it was a few rock concerts that did the damage. I remember
"Cream" in concert at Madison Square Garden in the '70s. That one was so
loud, it hurt. Then there was a 12 hour concert at Shea Stadium that
finished with "Creedence Clearwater". Of course a loud exhaust could
probably do it too. But, it would take longer.

"Don't let the sound of your own wheels drive you crazy"

--
Jim
Clams Canino - 03 Jul 2009 01:48 GMT
> I think it was a few rock concerts that did the damage. I remember
> "Cream" in concert at Madison Square Garden in the '70s. That one was so
> loud, it hurt. Then there was a 12 hour concert at Shea Stadium that
> finished with "Creedence Clearwater". Of course a loud exhaust could
> probably do it too. But, it would take longer.

Aerosmith at Boston Garden was LOUD,  and a couple years ago Black Sabbath
in Charlotte was almost ear bleeding loud.

-W
pj - 04 Jul 2009 04:19 GMT
>> I think it was a few rock concerts that did the damage. I remember
>> "Cream" in concert at Madison Square Garden in the '70s. That one was so
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> -W

The J-57 in the "Ford" (F-6A), when in AB, made
a rock concert sound like chamber music.  It did
a number very quickly.   :o
--
pj
NapalmHeart - 08 Jul 2009 15:15 GMT
>> I think it was a few rock concerts that did the damage. I remember
>> "Cream" in concert at Madison Square Garden in the '70s. That one was so
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> -W

Living Colour gave me permanent tinnitus back in '89.  There were many concerts before that going
back to '76, plus loud car and motorcycle exhausts, guns fired w/o ear protection, jobs in loud
factories and repair shops, etc. that set me up for it.

Ken
Dad - 28 Jun 2009 05:18 GMT
+++ And no, I dont post here for narcissism.

Sure you do.
 
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