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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Malibu / March 2006

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orez - 01 Mar 2006 02:41 GMT
First time poster here, I couldn't find any archives to search, so sorry if
this has been asked before.
1999 Malibu, 3.1 V6, 44 K, Auto trans. The headlights will not go off at all
even when the engine is shut off. I had to unhook the battery to get them
off, the taillights were also on. I haven't even a clue where to start
looking, as this is something I find bizarre.( no headlight switch ). Could
someone point me in a good direction or offer advice? I know that when the
E-brake is released the lights will go from dim mode to full bright, but
that is the only thing I can think of.  Thanks
Henri - 01 Mar 2006 04:14 GMT
To operate the headlights and running lights "manually" the light switch is
on the end of the  right stalk and to get bright or dim headlights the stalk
move forward and back. Why you would bother as the lights come on
automatically when it gets dark or overcast. There is a sensor located on
the edge of the defroster vent you can see it if you look through the
outside of the windshield which controls this. The wipers etc are on the
left stalk.

You appear to be a little mechanically challenged, if you do not have a
drivers handbook maybe you should drop by a dealer and pick one up.? IMO

First time poster here, I couldn't find any archives to search, so sorry if
this has been asked before.
1999 Malibu, 3.1 V6, 44 K, Auto trans. The headlights will not go off at all
even when the engine is shut off. I had to unhook the battery to get them
off, the taillights were also on. I haven't even a clue where to start
looking, as this is something I find bizarre.( no headlight switch ). Could
someone point me in a good direction or offer advice? I know that when the
E-brake is released the lights will go from dim mode to full bright, but
that is the only thing I can think of.  Thanks
orez - 01 Mar 2006 05:03 GMT
I'll admit that i'm not the most mechanically gifted guy around, that being
said...I know where the hi-lo beam switch is, and it is operative. On this
Malibu the headlights come on with vehicle start ( Daytime lights ) then, of
course, as the sun goes down the auto sensor on the dash brightens the
headlights, now, when you are done driving and turn the car off, the
headlights remain on. This has never happened before, the owners manual does
not address this except to say that the lights are automatic, nor does the
manual have any troubleshooting tips, so, if I shut the car off and the
headlights remain on, and, as there is no physical headlight switch anywhere
on the dash that I can find, I would think that something is wrong. Now,
Henri, thanks for your response, but my problem right now is that the only
way I can get my headlights to shut off after the car has been turned off is
by disconnecting the battery. As this has never happened until tonight ( the
lights always went out after the ignition was turned off ) I'm still
thinking theres a wee problem somewhere, because unhooking the battery
everytime I go somewhere just to turn off the headlights is going to get
old. All other help will be appreciated.  Thanks

> To operate the headlights and running lights "manually" the light switch
> is
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> E-brake is released the lights will go from dim mode to full bright, but
> that is the only thing I can think of.  Thanks
Cy Welch - 01 Mar 2006 04:56 GMT
> First time poster here, I couldn't find any archives to search, so sorry if
> this has been asked before.
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> E-brake is released the lights will go from dim mode to full bright, but
> that is the only thing I can think of.  Thanks

A was mentioned, just take the stalk on the left side of the wheel and
twist the end so that the top comes towards you.  Don't force it after
it moves easily, but that puts the system into auto mode (come on a dusk
and off when light) which will leave them on at night for a short time
after you shut off the ignition to give you time to get to your door (of
course it doesn't actually stay on long enough to get to the door).

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Cy Welch
89 Camaro RS 5.0 TBI
98 Passport
03 Malibu

orez - 01 Mar 2006 15:43 GMT
Thanks all for your help. I feel like a complete twit, I bought this car new
in '99 for my wife, I myself have probably driven it less than 200 miles (
I'm not really familiar with it ) so when she told me the lights wouldn't
shut off, I of course, jumped through my butt knowing that the system was
automatic, I should have questioned her closely about what happened,
apparently she fiddled with the light switch stalk for some reason not
understanding the implications, but, I should have reasoned it out by
myself, however, the problem was not really a problem just a case of
dumb-a.s on my part. But thanks again.

>> First time poster here, I couldn't find any archives to search, so sorry
>> if this has been asked before.
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> you shut off the ignition to give you time to get to your door (of course
> it doesn't actually stay on long enough to get to the door).
Cy Welch - 02 Mar 2006 00:11 GMT
> Thanks all for your help. I feel like a complete twit, I bought this car new
> in '99 for my wife, I myself have probably driven it less than 200 miles (
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>>you shut off the ignition to give you time to get to your door (of course
>>it doesn't actually stay on long enough to get to the door).

Hey, don't feel bad, it took me a bit of time figuring out how to force
the headlights off after dark (for things like aproaching a security
gate or the like where they require you to switch to parking lights as
you approach).  Once I found it I of course slapped my forhead with the
flat of my hand.  I figured you had run into the same thing as me, so I
described how it worked.  I figure I have moved the switch maybe twice
in over a year, and I am the primary driver of the car.  There just is
pretty much never any need to touch it.

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Cy Welch
89 Camaro RS 5.0 TBI
98 Passport
03 Malibu

orez - 02 Mar 2006 01:42 GMT
Yeah, you are right, my forehead still has a red mark from my own slap,
maybe I should drive that car more often, kind of get the feel of it. Thanks
again.

>> Thanks all for your help. I feel like a complete twit, I bought this car
>> new in '99 for my wife, I myself have probably driven it less than 200
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> over a year, and I am the primary driver of the car.  There just is pretty
> much never any need to touch it.
jcr - 02 Mar 2006 02:34 GMT
> On  3/1/2006 7:11 PM ...  Cy Welch  wrote:
>> Thanks all for your help. I feel like a complete twit, I bought this
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> in over a year, and I am the primary driver of the car.  There just is
> pretty much never any need to touch it.

Headlight control confusion is not uncommon with GM vehicles. Don't
blame yourself for being confused over the non-standard implementation.
orez - 02 Mar 2006 02:46 GMT
I suppose so jcr, my main ride is an '04 F150 with an easily found light
switch on the dash, clearly labeled as such, no confusion. But still, one
does feel like a ninny sometimes.

> > On  3/1/2006 7:11 PM ...  Cy Welch  wrote:
>>> Thanks all for your help. I feel like a complete twit, I bought this car
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> Headlight control confusion is not uncommon with GM vehicles. Don't blame
> yourself for being confused over the non-standard implementation.
jcr - 03 Mar 2006 01:09 GMT
> On  3/1/2006 9:46 PM ...  orez  wrote:
> I suppose so jcr, my main ride is an '04 F150 with an easily found light
> switch on the dash, clearly labeled as such, no confusion.

Yep.  With just about any *other* auto manufacturer it is clearly
labeled and the functions are in keeping with general industry
standards. ("Off-Park-Head" OR "Auto-Off-Park-Head")

> But still, one
> does feel like a ninny sometimes.

There are a lot of ninny's then that have posted here with the same
confusion you had.
Cy Welch - 04 Mar 2006 03:34 GMT
>>> Thanks all for your help. I feel like a complete twit, I bought this
>>> car new in '99 for my wife, I myself have probably driven it less
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> Headlight control confusion is not uncommon with GM vehicles. Don't
> blame yourself for being confused over the non-standard implementation.

Actually my 89 Camaro has the standard pull knob.  I actually much
prefer it, other than the cruise control contoller in the turn signal
stalk not working.

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Cy Welch
89 Camaro RS 5.0 TBI
98 Passport
03 Malibu

jcr - 04 Mar 2006 04:00 GMT
> On  3/3/2006 10:34 PM ...  Cy Welch  wrote:
>>
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> prefer it, other than the cruise control contoller in the turn signal
> stalk not working.

Back in '89, GM was still within common industry standards with switches
and controls.  It's just been since about 1996-1997 or so that they have
just gotten just plain giddy/silly with the useless gadgets and
non-standard controls that seem to confuse some people.

Like you, I don't like "stalk" mounted controls at all.  Dash-mounted
switches are my preference (either pull or twist knobs).
roger - 02 Mar 2006 05:28 GMT
and just how if possible to shut off headlights while ingear?  would love to
run with park lights only if possible, would make the guards at the gate so
happy.
>> Thanks all for your help. I feel like a complete twit, I bought this car
>> new in '99 for my wife, I myself have probably driven it less than 200
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> over a year, and I am the primary driver of the car.  There just is pretty
> much never any need to touch it.
Cy Welch - 04 Mar 2006 03:43 GMT
> and just how if possible to shut off headlights while ingear?  would love to
> run with park lights only if possible, would make the guards at the gate so
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>>over a year, and I am the primary driver of the car.  There just is pretty
>>much never any need to touch it.

One click clockwise of the switch forces you into parking light mode
(ignition on or off, day or night).  The next click forces all the
lights on no matter what.  But that first click allows you to at least
force the headlights off even in the dark, you just can't turn all the
lights off while running (at least not without modifications).

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Cy Welch
89 Camaro RS 5.0 TBI
98 Passport
03 Malibu

 
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