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GM to recall 1.5 million autos

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GasSaver - 15 Apr 2009 23:33 GMT
Agence France-Presse
First Posted 16:53:00 04/14/2009

WASHINGTON -- Troubled US automaker General Motors has informed watchdogs
it will have to recall close to 1.5 million cars amid concerns they could
catch fire, local media reported.

Television network CNN said the firm had reported a potential fuel leak in
some autos built between 1997 and 2003.

The recall includes certain models from GM's Chevrolet, Buick, Oldsmobile
and Pontiac brands.

The Detroit-based firm -- which already faces bankruptcy proceedings --
said the fault could see oil leak on the exhaust manifold during hard
braking.

On March 30, the US government gave GM, which has received $13.4 billion in
public aid, 60 days to come up with an aggressive restructuring plan to be
eligible for further aid the company says it needs to avoid collapse.

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80Knight - 17 Apr 2009 05:51 GMT
> Agence France-Presse
> First Posted 16:53:00 04/14/2009
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> public aid, 60 days to come up with an aggressive restructuring plan to be
> eligible for further aid the company says it needs to avoid collapse.

GM recalled these vehicles back in 2008 too, but they were to damned picky
on which vehicles they recalled.  They would repair some of the normal 3800
Series II's, but only if it was in a Grand Prix, and they wouldn't even look
at a supercharged 3800 (even though the assumed flaw is on all 3800 Series
II engines).  My supercharged Bonneville burnt to the ground around this
time last year, and I happened to be at a local Canadian Tire today, when I
saw the lights from a fire truck flashing.  I decided to go and take a look,
and there was a Grand Prix, hood up, engine soaking with water.  Seeing how
the fire department is very close to this place, the fire didn't look like
it left the engine bay, but the car is still (I am guessing) a total loss,
as was mine.  This is definitely an instance where GM needs to chrome up,
and fix these cars.  I don't want to see others having to sit there and
watch there pride and joy burn to the ground, only to be told to 'f.ck off'
by GM, and then given chump change from the insurance company.
GasSaver - 18 Apr 2009 20:36 GMT
>> Agence France-Presse
>> First Posted 16:53:00 04/14/2009
[quoted text clipped - 47 lines]
> off'
> by GM, and then given chump change from the insurance company.

Wow... I am very sorry to hear.  I know 5-6 Audi caught fire also, last
year in my neighborhood one happened just like yours.  I suspect it may not
be oil leak problem, your Fuel injector tube maybe too hot (reaching
Autoignition temperature 246 degreeC) engine temperature can increase while
you park after a long drive.   That's why I keep matching my engine
temperature.  I would never let it goes above 90degree C.

GasSaver

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Clive - 19 Apr 2009 01:31 GMT
>Is your vehicle sluggish? Changing exhaust pipe won't give you much power
>8% at the most.  If you let us eliminate its frictions and tune it up, you
>can gain much more power than that, at least 55%.   OFS Fuel-Efficiency
>Tune-up increases gas mileage and horse power. Making the right choice
>today will save you moneys for many years to come..
MolySlip in the UK used to advertise that their oil treatment could
allow you to run your engine for a few hundred miles without oil and
without damage, if that's not reducing friction, I don't know what is.
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GasSaver - 19 Apr 2009 06:50 GMT
>>Is your vehicle sluggish? Changing exhaust pipe won't give you much power
>>8% at the most.  If you let us eliminate its frictions and tune it up,
>>you
>>can gain much more power than that, at least 55%.   OFS Fuel-Efficiency
>>Tune-up increases gas mileage and horse power. Making the right choice
>>today will save you moneys for many years to come..

> MolySlip in the UK used to advertise that their oil treatment could
> allow you to run your engine for a few hundred miles without oil and
> without damage, if that's not reducing friction, I don't know what is.

Yes, I know MolySlip very well, similar Slick50 the US engine treatment,
they do reduce friction but only in one particular area, not all areas.
There are 7 frictions in a vehicle.  It makes a BIG difference if you
eliminate all frictions, your vehicle will perform like a hybrid afterward.

GasSaver
GasSaver - 19 Apr 2009 07:06 GMT
>>>Is your vehicle sluggish? Changing exhaust pipe won't give you much
>>>power
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> GasSaver

Actually our cars perform much better than any hybrid cars in terms of
power, have you ever seen an airplane taking off pointing its nose up in
the air on a run-way?  our vehicles perform just like that, very smoothly,
no loud engine noise.  There was one 9-yrs old kid seating in my car, he
said "I feel like going up in the air."

GasSaver
Mike Marlow - 19 Apr 2009 12:57 GMT
> Actually our cars perform much better than any hybrid cars in terms of
> power, have you ever seen an airplane taking off pointing its nose up in
> the air on a run-way?  our vehicles perform just like that, very smoothly,
> no loud engine noise.  There was one 9-yrs old kid seating in my car, he
> said "I feel like going up in the air."

Seen many airplanes taking off, been in tons of them.  Cannot figure out
what you mean by "our vehicles perform just like that".  Are you saying that
your vehicles have weak rear springs?

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Clive - 19 Apr 2009 13:03 GMT
> There was one 9-yrs old kid seating in my car, he
>said "I feel like going up in the air."
He was just telling you that your car was making so much noise it
sounded just like an aircraft taking off.
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Clive

Clive - 19 Apr 2009 13:01 GMT
>Yes, I know MolySlip very well, similar Slick50 the US engine treatment,
>they do reduce friction but only in one particular area, not all areas.
>There are 7 frictions in a vehicle.  It makes a BIG difference if you
>eliminate all frictions, your vehicle will perform like a hybrid afterward.
If MolySlip is added to the oil and lubricates everywhere the oil does,
where are these other six frictions that you know about but the
manufacturers don't?
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HLS - 20 Apr 2009 13:17 GMT
"Clive" <Clive@yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> If MolySlip is added to the oil and lubricates everywhere the oil does,
> where are these other six frictions that you know about but the
> manufacturers don't?

I checked this company on ripoffreport.com, but found no complaints (yet).

They mention friction in the water pump as one example, which might be
true enough.

Could we guess others?  Hubs, brakes, transmission, drive joints ?

If this is not A product that goes into the crankcase, but rather a
blueprinting
of various frictional systems,  it might make some sense.

But, judging from the location of the enterprise (WA), and the level of
English
used, I would be apprehensive.
Clive - 20 Apr 2009 13:24 GMT
>I checked this company on ripoffreport.com, but found no complaints (yet).
>
>They mention friction in the water pump as one example, which might be
>true enough.
>
>Could we guess others?  Hubs, brakes, transmission, drive joints ?
Friction means wear, and a lot of these products will last the life of
the car, so I have my doubts.
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GasSaver - 21 Apr 2009 04:37 GMT
> "Clive" <Clive@yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> If MolySlip is added to the oil and lubricates everywhere the oil does,
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> English
> used, I would be apprehensive.

HLS,

I'd like to see if your good English can help you figure out the rest of
frictions.  GM and FORD speak English so well, look at them now.  The
Japanese and Chinese don't speak English at all,  they must be dumb and
they must lack behind you right?

GasSaver
Van Chocstraw - 10 May 2009 01:47 GMT
> Agence France-Presse
> First Posted 16:53:00 04/14/2009
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> horse power. Making the right choice today will save you lots of moneys for
> many years to come..    http://www.extra150miles.com

They should recall every vehicle that fails to get 50mpg.
80 Knight - 10 May 2009 02:15 GMT
>> Agence France-Presse
>> First Posted 16:53:00 04/14/2009
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>>
> They should recall every vehicle that fails to get 50mpg.

Should Ford, Chrysler, Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, and the rest do the
same?  There wouldn't be many cars on the roads...
HLS - 10 May 2009 14:49 GMT
"80 Knight" <nospam@pleaseandthanks.com> wrote in message

> Should Ford, Chrysler, Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, and the rest do the
> same?  There wouldn't be many cars on the roads...

That is for sure.
Canuck57 - 10 May 2009 14:55 GMT
> "80 Knight" <nospam@pleaseandthanks.com> wrote in message
>>
>> Should Ford, Chrysler, Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, and the rest do
>> the same?  There wouldn't be many cars on the roads...
>
> That is for sure.

But the taxpayer is paying for this one.
Hipupchuck - 11 May 2009 02:57 GMT
>>> Agence France-Presse
>>> First Posted 16:53:00 04/14/2009
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> Should Ford, Chrysler, Nissan, Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, and the rest do the
> same?  There wouldn't be many cars on the roads...

Yes, they should all do the same. Ford commercial says the Fusion is the
highest gas mileage care in the mid sized arena. The actual mileage
flashes by so fast your cannnot read it. They must be ashamed of it.
The VW Jetta TDI diesel did get 51mpg until the US banned it. It was
allowed back in this year because they lowered the mileage rating.
The US car companies should all die like the mob that they are.
All crooks and crooked to the bone.
cldnails - 12 May 2009 16:11 GMT
> >>> Agence France-Presse
> >>> First Posted 16:53:00 04/14/2009
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> The US car companies should all die like the mob that they are.
> All crooks and crooked to the bone.

you do realize the new Fusion just got over 80 miles per gallon in a
very public test of over 1,500 miles.  Their new Fusion hybrid is
capable of doing up to 47 miles per hour on electric alone.

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