Lots of luck, Any one who buys it would be an idiot. Just the piston slap
alone makes it a bad deal.
It's too bad GM had to mess with their trusty old 3.1L engine. I had the
old 90-94 MultiPort Fuel Injection 3.1L V6 in my 93 Lumina Euro, which was
pretty much identical to the old 2.8L MPFI V6 from the 80s. I just sold the
car a couple weeks ago with almost 300,000kms on it, and the engine /
transmission had never been touched, and still worked like new, and ran
perfectly smooth and quiet, even at idle.
In 95 GM took the same basic engine, "improved it" and switch to Sequential
Fuel Injection (whatever that means) and aluminum heads, and have had
nothing but problems with them. I think they retired it this year though.
Too bad the last few years of such a great engine had to be so marred. I
would have bought a Malibu, but because of their numerous problems, I bought
a new Impala with the 3.8L V6 instead. 30 year old engine design, but still
rated as one of the top 10 engines in the world for over 10 years now.
-/\/\ike
> Lots of luck, Any one who buys it would be an idiot. Just the piston slap
> alone makes it a bad deal.
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> Reasons for not buying it: Got one I know how bad this car is.
James C. Reeves - 21 Dec 2003 18:29 GMT
| It's too bad GM had to mess with their trusty old 3.1L engine. I had the
| old 90-94 MultiPort Fuel Injection 3.1L V6 in my 93 Lumina Euro, which was
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| a new Impala with the 3.8L V6 instead. 30 year old engine design, but still
| rated as one of the top 10 engines in the world for over 10 years now.
Except the plastic intake manifold on the new 3.8 engines (so I've read) are
causing similar gasket leak problems because the plastic is warping and
cracking from the heat. So, I believe that the 3.8 is having similar problems
now. In fact GM has a "campaign" calling owners of 3.8's in Buicks to add a
coolant sealant additive to help fix the coolant leaks. Makes one wonder where
GM is getting it's engine designers from. What ever college that is, I would
not go back there for engineering talent in the future in I were them!
Michael Hatt - 22 Dec 2003 17:42 GMT
I guess the problem lies not so much in the engine or gasket itself, but the
DexCool "orange" coolant they are using now. The dealers know by now to
tell people to ignore GM's advertising of long-life coolant, and still
change it ever 50,000 clicks or so. If you leave it in too long, it reacts
with the aluminum engine parts. Anyone who doesn't change their coolant at
least every 50K is a damn fool, and anyone with any aluminum in their engine
should always drop some of those disolving tabs into their rad once in a
while anyways. Same thing with GM's advertising of "lubed for life
transmissions". The dealers still recomend that you do a full fluid flush
ever 80k, and it makes a huge difference. There is a lot more to
maintaining an engine today than just changing the oil every 5K. Look at
all the problems Toyota has had with their V6's over the last decade with
their "sludge" build-up problem. With a little bit of extra care and
maintenace, any well-made vehicle today should go at least 300k before the
powertrain needs any work.
I chose to buy the Impala for more reasons than the 3.8L engine (which gets
amazing mileage btw.. almost 40mpg highway, and 30mpg around the city).
The LS/SS models are built almost identical to cop cars, so they are built
with a heavy-duty maintenance cycle in mind. Heavy duty alternator,
suspension, brakes, aluminum rad, stainless steel everything underneath,
transmission cooler, etc.
> | It's too bad GM had to mess with their trusty old 3.1L engine. I had the
> | old 90-94 MultiPort Fuel Injection 3.1L V6 in my 93 Lumina Euro, which was
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> GM is getting it's engine designers from. What ever college that is, I would
> not go back there for engineering talent in the future in I were them!