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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Trucks / November 20041965 Chevy C-10
Dose anyone know was my truck built with seat belts ? Is it illegal not to have them ? Feel free to give any outher info about my truck if you know something. thanks truck owner Scott Scott, I had a 1966 C-10 with factory seatbelts... but I dunno if they had them in the 65's or not. I'm not sure what year it was that they were made mandatory. If it didn't come with them then you don't legally have to have them. -Tony > Dose anyone know was my truck built with seat belts ? Is it illegal not to > have them ? Feel free to give any outher info about my truck if you know > something. thanks truck owner Scott In late 1964 my dad bought my mom a brand new 65 chevy bellaire stationwagon and it had seatbelts. It also had a 327 with a 4 barrel, a factory tach and, get ready for this, a 4 speed trans. 6 years later I learned how to drive it. This was back in the day when we'd load up and head down to the dealership to look at the new cars that came out. Now a days everything looks the same. blah.... > Scott, > I had a 1966 C-10 with factory seatbelts... but I dunno if they had [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >> have them ? Feel free to give any outher info about my truck if you know >> something. thanks truck owner Scott New cars realy suck now!!! I don't know about your State, but in Florida you'll need belts. I have a ticket to prove it. Good Luck, Mike A ticket for what? As long as your vehicle was made BEFORE seatbelts were made mandatory you shouldn't need them. If the vehicle was legal when it was made it's legal now. -Tony > I don't know about your State, but in Florida you'll need belts. I have > a ticket to prove it. > Good Luck, Mike Regardless of when the vehicle was made FL state law requires ALL occupants of *ALL vehicles to wear seatbelts. *The exception to that law is school buses, where 40-50 kids can act like whirling dervishes at 50 mph on the highway. >A ticket for what? As long as your vehicle was made BEFORE seatbelts > were made mandatory you shouldn't need them. If the vehicle was legal [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> a ticket to prove it. >> Good Luck, Mike Well that's a bunch of BS... I can't see how they can enforce that law. It's like telling me that I have to install pollution equiptment on a 60's vehicle. -Tony > Regardless of when the vehicle was made FL state law requires ALL occupants > of *ALL vehicles to wear seatbelts. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >> a ticket to prove it. > >> Good Luck, Mike > Well that's a bunch of BS... I can't see how they can enforce that > law. It's like telling me that I have to install pollution equiptment > on a 60's vehicle. If a cop sees you driving without a seatbelt he pulls you over and gives you a ticket. Eventually most drivers see the light and buckle up. I'm not saying its right, I'm just saying it is. And yes, it's BS. > -Tony > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >> >> a ticket to prove it. >> >> Good Luck, Mike > If a cop sees you driving without a seatbelt he pulls you over and gives you > a ticket. > Eventually most drivers see the light and buckle up. > I'm not saying its right, I'm just saying it is. > And yes, it's BS. Hmm... sounds like a bunch of BS to me. I've been there done that with my old '76 ford that only had factory lap belts. I got pulled over 2 different times by damn cops who thought I didn't have my seat belt on. The first one basically apoligized for the inconvenience and let me go on my way... the other one tried to tell me that I needed to install shoulder belts in it for it to be legal... even gave me a damn ticket for it! After going to the court date and explaining it to the judge, he immediately threw the case out. According to IL law, you only need whatever the car was equipped with when it was manufactured. and if the car didn't have seatbelts, then you didn't need them. -Tony > Hmm... sounds like a bunch of BS to me. I've been there done that > with my old '76 ford that only had factory lap belts. I got pulled [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > install shoulder belts in it for it to be legal... even gave me a damn > ticket for it! you can thank George 'I kiss MADD's a.s' Ryan for all that sh.t he was in bed with those assh*les > After going to the court date and explaining it to the judge, he > immediately threw the case out. According to IL law, you only need > whatever the car was equipped with when it was manufactured. and if > the car didn't have seatbelts, then you didn't need them. > > -Tony And to think we thought it would get better once Ryan left... probably would have if Rod Blow-goat-avich wasn't the one elected. He has yet to prove that he has any kind of brain in his head. I would be in Heaven if they would elect someone who wasn't from the state's a.shole (Chicago). -Tony > > Hmm... sounds like a bunch of BS to me. I've been there done that > > with my old '76 ford that only had factory lap belts. I got pulled [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > > > -Tony >> If a cop sees you driving without a seatbelt he pulls you over and gives >> you [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > whatever the car was equipped with when it was manufactured. and if > the car didn't have seatbelts, then you didn't need them. I rarely wear a seatbelt, as a matter of principle. Its my truck, my seatbelts, my life. No one else gets to control that stuff. Immoral laws be damned. If I believe conditions warrant wearing the seatbelt then I hook it up. I agree. seat belt usage should be up to the driver not some stupid law!! > I agree. seat belt usage should be up to the driver not some stupid > law!! I realize this string is old, but... I agree, you should have the choice, but along with the choice should be a mandatory do not resuscitate order, same for helmets on motorcycles. Why should the tax payers be forced to support some idiot too stupid to take any protective measure available when he's crippled for life because he was launched out his own windshield, or rattled around the inside of his vehicle like dice in a cup. Its funny how professional drivers would never consider a slow lap around the track with out a belt with their peers, but joe blow wont wear one when mixing with amateurs whose driving is usually the last thing on their minds, and even when its on their minds they are generally clueless. 1965 was the year american cars got seatbelts. And you can not be legally ticketed in any state for not wearing a seat belt in a car not equiped with them. And I have lived in Florida for the last 22 years, and pulled over a few times in pre 65 vehicles, never a ticket. Don, you should have taken it to court, must have been up on US 301, Waldo perhaps?. As to installing them in vehicles not equipped, in Germany when they make changes like that they are retro-active. So when I took my 64 Nova over in '76, I had to install seatbelts and four way flashers. I really wasn't a believer until the fall of '77 when I took out 230 feet of guard rail just outside Pirmisens Germany with a 327cid powered 73 Vega GT Wagon and walked away from it, after they got the doors pried open.. It took my dad getting t-boned and not knowing who he was 6 hours to get him to belt up when he drives. Whitelightning >> I agree. seat belt usage should be up to the driver not some stupid >> law!! [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > drives. > Whitelightning Where is Pirmisens? I lived in Wildflecken from 1974 to 1978. Drove Krankenwagens (ambulances) on the Wurzburg, Nurenburg, Frankfurt autobahns. Florida law stipulates that ALL occupants of ALL *motor vehicles MUST wear seatbelts while utilizing Florida streets and highways. I have lived in Florida (Cape Coral) since 1966 (38 years). *Except schoolbuses. Whitelightning, I have been running a residential design business for the past 19 years and have no time to waste in courtrooms dickering with attorney's over stupid state laws. If I get a ticket I just pay it and move on. Its just a money / time thang...... I can always get more money, but I can't get more time. Here's the deal, the owner of the vehicle should choose whether to wear a seatbelt (or helmet) or not. Its no one else's business. If you have problems associated with being a taxpayer, then don't be one any longer. Its your choice. > Where is Pirmisens? > I lived in Wildflecken from 1974 to 1978. > Drove Krankenwagens (ambulances) on the Wurzburg, Nurenburg, Frankfurt > autobahns. Pirmesens is in the south western part of Germany about 50 klic from Kiasersluatern. about 40 klic from the french border town of Bitch. (pronunced Beesh) I drove truck over there, fuel tanker, and also pulled heavy equipment and armoured vehicles. > Florida law stipulates that ALL occupants of ALL *motor vehicles MUST wear > seatbelts while utilizing Florida streets and highways. From the florida drivers manual: http://www.hsmv.state.fl.us/handbooks/English/ch_203.html "The driver and front seat passenger must wear seat belts. This seat belt law applies to passenger cars manufactured beginning with the 1968 model year, and trucks beginning with the 1972 model year. It is unlawful for any person to operate a vehicle in this state unless every passenger of the vehicle under the age of 18 is restrained by a safety belt or by a child restraint device, regardless of seating position. If the passenger is 18 years of age or older and fails to wear a seat belt when required by law, the passenger will be charged with the violation." 1968 was chosen because thats the first year seat belts were manadatory in both front and rear seats. From 1965 till 67 they were only required on the front seat. > I have lived in Florida (Cape Coral) since 1966 (38 years). > *Except schoolbuses. > Whitelightning, I have been running a residential design business for the > past 19 years and have no time to waste in courtrooms dickering with > attorney's over stupid state laws. If I get a ticket I just pay it and move > on. Its just a money / time thang...... Then dont complain about being ticketed when you should not have been, If you wont learn the law and then stand up for your rights you have no one to blame but yourself when they trample your rights. > Here's the deal, the owner of the vehicle should choose whether to wear a > seatbelt (or helmet) or not. Its no one else's business. > If you have problems associated with being a taxpayer, then don't be one any > longer. > Its your choice. Its not my choice, death and taxes are no ones choice. But spending my tax dollars to support someone who otherwise would have lead a productive life if he had protected himself is wrong as well. In cases like that I think nature should be allowed to run its course, ie survival of the fittest, someone who gets launched out his own windsheild from not wearing his belt does not fall in the "fittest" catagory. As a former meat wagon driver you should be aware first hand of the damage that happens from not wearing them. Its no ones business untill such time as it starts affecting other people, at that time it becomes other people's business as well. Whitelightning >> Whitelightning, I have been running a residential design business for the >> past 19 years and have no time to waste in courtrooms dickering with [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > . > Then dont complain about being ticketed when you should not have been, I just pay the thug and move on. If > you wont learn the law and then stand up for your rights you have no one > to > blame but yourself when they trample your rights. Look, I've paid over $13k to attorneys during the past year in an effort to not let my rights be trampled, guess what, they still trampled them and I am $13k broker. Its not about money, its about control. If I'm sitting in court defending a silly $100 ticket, then I am losing more in income than its worth. Besides, as a business owner I'll just *write off* the cost of the ticket anyway. >> Here's the deal, the owner of the vehicle should choose whether to wear a >> seatbelt (or helmet) or not. Its no one else's business. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Its not my choice, death and taxes are no ones choice. On the death thing you are correct, on the taxes thing you are wrong. Become a business owner and learn why. But spending my tax > dollars to support someone who otherwise would have lead a productive life > if he had protected himself is wrong as well. You have no say in how the thug spends the money he has stolen from you. Yes, taxation is theft, plain and simple. Employees have very little say over how much is stolen from them, business owners have some control over their own money. In cases like that I think > nature should be allowed to run its course, ie survival of the fittest, > someone who gets launched out his own windsheild from not wearing his belt > does not fall in the "fittest" catagory. Your disdain should be focused on the thugs that steal money from you and give it to people that are launched from their vehicle. The person that got launched didn't harm you, the thug that stole your money harmed you. As a former meat wagon driver > you should be aware first hand of the damage that happens from not wearing > them. As a medic an an EMT I am also aware of the severe injuries that are caused by wearing seat belts, too. Imgine what happens to a human body, going 60 mph, and suddenly stops. The part of the body that doesn't stop is destroyed. I know of people that are invalids from wearing seatbelts. Wearing seatbelts doesn't eliminate the problems, it only changes them. Its no ones business untill such time as it starts affecting other > people, at that time it becomes other people's business as well. I agree, with one caveat. Your ire should be towards the folks that disperse the funds that are stolen from you, against your wishes, rather than the folks that receive the funds. >:|You have no say in how the thug spends the money he has stolen from you. >:|Yes, taxation is theft, plain and simple. actually taxation is legalized extortion... paying money to prevent harm coming to you. -Bret > "Don"> wrote: >>:|You have no say in how the thug spends the money he has stolen from you. >>:|Yes, taxation is theft, plain and simple. > > actually taxation is legalized extortion... paying money to prevent > harm coming to you. It's immoral. How can a body jail theives when it does so itself? > Dose anyone know was my truck built with seat belts ? Is it > illegal not to have them ? Feel free to give any outher info about > my truck if you know something. thanks truck owner Scott I am from Canada and the seatbelts weren't installed untill 1967 unless ordered. In B.C. where I live only vehicles equipped with belts require the useage. I installed a pair of seatbelts in my 52 Chev pickup but can't say how safe they are. I can't see the requirement for aftermarket belts installed. They would not be safe.  SignatureBarney __________________________ "Name calling is best left to the children." |
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