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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Trucks / December 2004

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About 4K on the I-5

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Bob La Londe - 11 Dec 2004 01:56 GMT
I have a little over 4K miles on the new (sorts) Colorado I-5.  Seems to
have plenty of punch.  I haven't noticed any increase in performance as the
motor breaks in like I did with the 4.3 or the 2.2 in my last couple of new
small trucks.

Bebopping around town in stop and go traffic I'm getting a little over
17MPG.  I think that figure is low because, I use it to pull my smaller boat
up to the river all the time, and I am sure that has an affect on mileage.

In the last 300 miles I probably pulled the boat 90 or 100.

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mudmonkey - 13 Dec 2004 16:30 GMT
Thats very possible.  Also from what I know of new engines they come
basicly broke in.  so you wont find much difference after a few
thousand miles.  If your getting 17mpg pulling a boat 1/3 of the time
with a I-5 thats pretty good in my opinion.  because your probally
getting 23+ without the boat attached, which is even better.  How does
your truck pull the boat, I was thinking of looking at one within the
year or 2 and like to borrow my buddy's boat to go fishing.
Bob La Londe - 13 Dec 2004 17:11 GMT
> Thats very possible.  Also from what I know of new engines they come
> basicly broke in.  so you wont find much difference after a few
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> your truck pull the boat, I was thinking of looking at one within the
> year or 2 and like to borrow my buddy's boat to go fishing.

I guess it depends on the weight of the boat.  This one only weigh about
1200 lbs, with trailer, motor, fuel, batteries, etc....  I have a heavier
boat as well, but I have a Silverado that I pull that one with.

The I-5 pulls my little boat just fine.  I run 65-70 without excessive
shifting on slight grades.  When I passed a line of boats a while back I
stepped on it and just held the pedal down as I zoomed by.  It down shifted
and off I went accelerating steadily.  Just as I got to the end of the line
I hit the rev limiter right at 100MPH.  Oops.  It doesn't slam you into the
seat like the 6.0 on my Silverado, but it pulls very steadily.

I am sure you could pull a much larger boat occassionaly with no real
problems.  You might have to go a little slower, but I'm sure it would
handle it.

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Trey - 13 Dec 2004 17:24 GMT
> Thats very possible.  Also from what I know of new engines they come
> basicly broke in.  so you wont find much difference after a few
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> your truck pull the boat, I was thinking of looking at one within the
> year or 2 and like to borrow my buddy's boat to go fishing.

a 3.5 liter inline 5 Diesel would be nice to have in that truck! Don't
really need a lot of pulling power (as in 6.6 liter Duramax) but would like
the fuel economy of a smaller diesel in a smaller truck.
Whitelightning - 13 Dec 2004 17:50 GMT
> a 3.5 liter inline 5 Diesel would be nice to have in that truck! Don't
> really need a lot of pulling power (as in 6.6 liter Duramax) but would like
> the fuel economy of a smaller diesel in a smaller truck.

Why not the 4cyl turbo diesel Chevy and Isuzu use in the tilt masters?

Whitelightning
Trey - 13 Dec 2004 18:28 GMT
>> a 3.5 liter inline 5 Diesel would be nice to have in that truck!
>> Don't really need a lot of pulling power (as in 6.6 liter Duramax)
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>
> Whitelightning

That would work too. As long as its Diesel, 200+ HP, and 230-300 TQ. It
should do ok on the SoCal freeways.... put an Alison trans in there too! :-)
Bret Chase - 14 Dec 2004 01:44 GMT
>:|Whitelightning wrote:
>:|>>
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>:|That would work too. As long as its Diesel, 200+ HP, and 230-300 TQ. It
>:|should do ok on the SoCal freeways.... put an Alison trans in there too! :-)

if it is a diesel and 200HP.... you're going to have lots more than
230-300 lbs-ft of torque... more like 400lbs-ft.

-Bret
Whitelightning - 14 Dec 2004 03:13 GMT
>  if it is a diesel and 200HP.... you're going to have lots more than
> 230-300 lbs-ft of torque... more like 400lbs-ft.
>
> -Bret

That brings up another question.  The duramax is an Isuzu/GM engine,  Both
the 4 cylinder in the small tilt master and the six cylinder in the larger
tilt masters have exhaust brakes, since diesels have no back pressure, they
offer no engine braking on steep down grades,(the reason big rigs have Jake
brakes, unless the outfit you work for is cheap, ask me about Cabbage Patch
Pass, light rain, 79,700 gross in a rig with no Jake sometime).  Does the
V-8 Duramax come with an engine brake?
Whitelightning
richb - 15 Dec 2004 02:02 GMT
>>  if it is a diesel and 200HP.... you're going to have lots more than
>> 230-300 lbs-ft of torque... more like 400lbs-ft.
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> V-8 Duramax come with an engine brake?
> Whitelightning

The problem I found when driving a diesel (a Cummins) for 6 years, is that
when they break, nobody (even sometimes the dealer) will fix them, if you
have a buddy thats a truck and bus mechanic, good for you, but the average
guy can't get it fixed reliably.  The engines themselves run fine but the
pumps and other attached parts give up.  Cold Winters are a big problem
too, as diesels age they get grumpier every winter, with longer and longer
plug in times, and they never quite seem to warm up unless you hit 60Mph+
for 15 or more minutes straight.  In the 'burbs fill ups have to be planned
in advance (some towns have only one Station with a diesel pump and it
looks like its never used - very bad) your town may be different.  Fuel
economy is great though, and if everything goes to plan, maintainance is
cheap. Except for more tire wear (because of the weight), more front end
parts wear (the weight).
Trey - 15 Dec 2004 14:57 GMT
> The problem I found when driving a diesel (a Cummins) for 6 years, is
> that when they break, nobody (even sometimes the dealer) will fix
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> Except for more tire wear (because of the weight), more front end
> parts wear (the weight).

Yes, finding fuel could be a problem, I only know of about 15 Diesel
stations within a ten mile radius of my house.  The interstate 5 is a truck
route I believe, so there are a LOT of big rigs on it, and there are a LOT
of Diesel stations along the freeway here.
As for weather. This is SoCal. Most folks here "bundle up" when its in the
60s! 40 makes for a cold night here, and 30s are very rare.
As for the weight, well, thats just how it is, isnt it? Oh well.
Bret Chase - 16 Dec 2004 01:09 GMT
>:|>  if it is a diesel and 200HP.... you're going to have lots more than
>:|> 230-300 lbs-ft of torque... more like 400lbs-ft.
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>:|V-8 Duramax come with an engine brake?
>:|Whitelightning

they don't have a "Jake" brake, no LD diesel has one, beit a Cummins,
Powerstroke, or a Duramax.  a Jake brake works by actuating the intake
valves on one or two cylinders to dump off the air charge just before
TDC back through the intake.  what this does is absorb energy during
the compression stroke but not allow any energy to make it back into
the crank on the power (though the injector is shut off) stroke.  you
can buy an exhaust brake for all of the big 3 LD diesels which
basically is a butterfly valve in the exhaust. this gives you as much
engine braking as a gas engine of the same size.

-Bret
Chevy Guy - 20 Dec 2004 22:12 GMT
ya all went from talking about an inline 5 to diesel engines, these chat
rooms are fun though, I could sit here for hours at a time reading all these
posts.

>I have a little over 4K miles on the new (sorts) Colorado I-5.  Seems to
> have plenty of punch.  I haven't noticed any increase in performance as
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>
> In the last 300 miles I probably pulled the boat 90 or 100.
Trey - 20 Dec 2004 23:20 GMT
> ya all went from talking about an inline 5 to diesel engines, these
> chat rooms are fun though, I could sit here for hours at a time
> reading all these posts.

I just don't have the time to do that. I have to select a few and follow
them for a little while, then move on.

Once they get to mud slinging or the usual "F$%# you!" "no, F$%^ you!!" then
I stop following, but yes, very fun, and very informative.
 
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