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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Trucks / February 2006

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V.B. - 19 Jan 2006 00:35 GMT
How often do you guys change the rear end oil and automatic transmission
fluid in your trucks? I have a '03 Silverado V6

V.B.
Whitelightning - 19 Jan 2006 02:29 GMT
> How often do you guys change the rear end oil and automatic transmission
> fluid in your trucks? I have a '03 Silverado V6
>
> V.B.

I am still doing it old school.
3 yr, 36,000 on the tranny if auto, 2 yr 24,000 if manual
axles every 2 yr or 24,000 miles
brake fluid 2 yrs or 24,000 miles
Power steering fluid 2 yr or 24,000 miles
transfer case would be 2 yr or 24,000 miles
If it gets dunked, ie fording creeks, mud holes etc, then
the axles and transfer case get done after playing along with
repacking bearings if they are that style, and the front axle spindle
bearings get re-packed as well (the forgotten bearing)
given the problems I have been reading about with the slip joints
on the rear drive shaft on 4x4, I think that would get greased every oil
change.

oil and grease are cheap.

Whitelightning
jsc157@aol.com - 03 Feb 2006 00:45 GMT
Try amsoil synthetic oil & grease. You can more than double your change
out,& increase your drive trane life. Check it out at amsoil.com.
Prefered customer #409150. Any questions E Mail Me.
no one - 19 Jan 2006 03:36 GMT
> How often do you guys change the rear end oil and automatic transmission
> fluid in your trucks? I have a '03 Silverado V6
>
> V.B.

 1989 S10 257,000 mile bought new in 1988

 Rear END fluid ---Original is in the Truck ( Never Changed)
Tranny Fluid   == Original  ( Never Changed) Automatice With overdrive)
Engine Oil   ---  Changed 6 Times   ( uses 1 Qt every 10,000 miles)(
Quaker State oil)
Transfercase -  Original
Bob - 19 Jan 2006 03:59 GMT
>> How often do you guys change the rear end oil and automatic transmission
>> fluid in your trucks? I have a '03 Silverado V6
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> Quaker State oil)
> Transfercase -  Original

And I get 45MPG with my Ford Explorer.........
no one - 19 Jan 2006 06:26 GMT
>>>How often do you guys change the rear end oil and automatic transmission
>>>fluid in your trucks? I have a '03 Silverado V6
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>
> And I get 45MPG with my Ford Explorer.........

It's not a lie!

Truck is used for a business and I have the Records to prove it !

How can Fluid in a SEAL unit Get Dirty.
u say Shavings, Then your Fluid is Not ANY GOOD!

Too many people Believe What they READ in a BOOK!
Whitelightning - 20 Jan 2006 02:46 GMT
> Too many people Believe What they READ in a BOOK!

More of us believe what we SEE when we tear down engines, diffs, and
trannys.
The things aren't sealed air and water tight , they have vents, they are
subject to
condensation.  Clutches and bands wear in trannys.
Seals wear, heat breaks down additives.
I've pulled engines down owned by people like you, you pull the valve covers
off
and there is so much sludge built up it looks like the valve covers are
still on, and you
have to borrow your kids beach toy shovel to clean out the galley when the
intake
comes off.

Whitelightning
no one - 20 Jan 2006 04:56 GMT
>>Too many people Believe What they READ in a BOOK!
>
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>
> Whitelightning

Very empressive Whitelightning..

I was Raised in the Auto Repair Business.

I am retired now!

I changed a leaking Valve cover in Sept and the ENGINE has no Sludge!!
Sludge Goes with    PENNSOIL/ Shell OIL!

The oil Filter Which is mounted on the fender Had to be Changed since a
pin Hole RUSTED thru The CASING, if that tells u how long the filter had
been on the Truck..

Also My 90 Chevy 3.1 chevy car Never gets it's oil changed Either.. Car
has 350,000 miles on it!
SAme Tranny fluid when I bought it in 1989 .
The Nolalu Barn Owl - 21 Jan 2006 03:05 GMT
>>>Too many people Believe What they READ in a BOOK!
>>
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>has 350,000 miles on it!
>SAme Tranny fluid when I bought it in 1989 .

My father used to do the same thing.  NEVER a problem.
He showed me an old copy of Popular Mechanics (or similar) with an
article about taxis that were used for a test.  Half the fleet had
regular 3000 mile oil changes and the other half only had the filter
changed and top up the crankcase to make up for the quart lost in the
old filter.
The regular oil change cars had sludge and the no change cars had
none.
There were pics and everything.

One of my father's friends also acted like this and he had no problems
either - EVER.
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Gordie

no one - 21 Jan 2006 20:05 GMT
>>>>Too many people Believe What they READ in a BOOK!
>>>
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> One of my father's friends also acted like this and he had no problems
> either - EVER.

Thank you for the ENCOURAGEMENT!!!

Two Friends Bought S-10's The Same year As I Did.  They Warned me About
Not Changing OIL and Tranny Fluid.

Well They Changed theirs Regularly and Both of Them S-10 Needed Trannys
after 7 years  ( Mine is original)  One Motor Started Knocking So He
JUNKED the TRUCK, One Year later The Other Truck put A ROD threw The
Side of The Block.  Junked His Truck also.

So I guess with My Truck Still Running with no problems , I WAS and AM
STILL Wrong By Not Changing The OIL in this World , That Has an OIL
Shortage Due to The Fact that people Change Their OIL too often!

Another Theroy is that Those Auto manufacture PAY nothing for the OIL
they Get to put in NEW VEHICLES.  The Big OIL companies make the
Manufactures Put a Clause in The Vehicle Warrentee that the new ower
MUST Change the oil every So many miles ... And OIL is FREE to the
Manufactures.

The Auto manufactures Know that Ther CAN FOOL the Majority of the PEOPLE
ALL THE TIME ! and most of those Dummies, Take Their Vehicle Back to the
DEALER for the $100.00 OIL change.  Not knowing that They can Do it
Themselves for Less than $15.00
Handyman - 21 Jan 2006 22:58 GMT
Usually I don't comment on other person's writings.After reading what "no
one"has been stating as facts,I feel obligated to refute some of his
opinions and information.I must qualify that I have been a shadetree
mechanic for over 55 yrs.I am not an expert in anything about cars.But my
cars generally only see a dealer when under warranty.With a family of 9
kids,I have owned over 30 different vehicles(sedans,trucks,vans Etc.) and 3
motorcycles.In my 13 years of retirement I re-build engines as a hobby.
Mr."no one"is also insulting when he calls us dummies.Most people ignore
him,but there are a lot of sharp repair people out there who know the
truth.I retired from a worldwide known petroleum and chemicals manufacturing
company as a lab supervisor.I know oils and additives,along with a very good
knowledge of filters through testing and experimentation..
I presently own a 1975 GMC 3/4 ton pickup with over 400,000 miles on it.I
have replaced or repaired,brakes,bearings along with power steering
pump,alternators,batteries,starters,water pump,a/c compressor etc.But I have
never touched any part of the engine that has to do with oil lubrication and
that includes the oil pump.I also own a van and a sedan that run like new.
To emphasize the importance of changing oil,(because I had the equipment and
testing facilities available and my own time)I ran tests on my truck's oil
for at least 10 years using a 500 ml separatory funnel and centrifuging the
separated particles.The tests were run in specific mileage increments of
3,000, 5,000and 10,000.The results would amaze even the most skeptical.
I do not claim to be an authority on this or any other subject and I am very
comfortable with what I know from my experience on my vehicles.(There are
many variables in oil viscosity,type of engines,use of vehicle and
temperature conditions)
I am sorry about the long e-mail but I can't stand by and read
misinformation that might harm innocent people in their efforts to maintain
their vehicles correctly.
Finally,the oil companies do not have any say in the manufacturer's
procedures for warranty purposes and oil is not "free"
Recommendation:CHANGE THE OIL IN BOTH ENGINE AND TRANSMISSION AT SUGGESTED
INTERVALS.

> >>>>Too many people Believe What they READ in a BOOK!
> >>>
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> DEALER for the $100.00 OIL change.  Not knowing that They can Do it
> Themselves for Less than $15.00
kevin weaver - 22 Jan 2006 07:53 GMT
>>>>>Too many people Believe What they READ in a BOOK!
>>>>
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> STILL Wrong By Not Changing The OIL in this World , That Has an OIL
> Shortage Due to The Fact that people Change Their OIL too often!

Oil shortage ? Yeah ok.

> Another Theroy is that Those Auto manufacture PAY nothing for the OIL they
> Get to put in NEW VEHICLES.  The Big OIL companies make the Manufactures
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> DEALER for the $100.00 OIL change.  Not knowing that They can Do it
> Themselves for Less than $15.00

100.00 for a oil change ? What drugs are you on ? GM Dealer did mine last
week. 6 qts of oil and oil filter.  Under $20.00
jsc157@aol.com - 03 Feb 2006 00:55 GMT
Try using Amsoil synthetic Trans. & gear oils. Check it out @
amsoil.com. Use prefered customer # 409150. Any questions contaect me @
jsc157@aol.com.
 
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