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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Trucks / February 2006Starter Questions on GM 5.7 motors?
I recently changed the starter in my 93 Chevy Cheyenne with a 5.7 motor and the starter was about $40.00 and that seemed like a good price. Now I need to change the starter in my brothers 95 GMC Sierra with a 5.7 motor and they want $160.00 for it. Both of these trucks have the same motor so I thought they would use the same starter but am I missing something here? Are the starters actually the same or is there a difference? If there is a difference what is it? I can't seem to believe that there is such a price difference. I haven't pulled the starter out of the GMC yet so I figured I would check here to see if somebody isn't trying to pull a fast on on me. Thanks in advance, Phill Wolf > I recently changed the starter in my 93 Chevy Cheyenne with a 5.7 motor > and the starter was about $40.00 and that seemed like a good price. Now [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > somebody isn't trying to pull a fast on on me. > Thanks in advance, Phill Wolf The person who sold u The Starter for $40.00 Made a Big mistake and More in likely isnot Working at that company anymore ! I paid about that ($40) for my lifetime warrantied starter on my 91. >> I recently changed the starter in my 93 Chevy Cheyenne with a 5.7 motor >> and the starter was about $40.00 and that seemed like a good price. Now I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The person who sold u The Starter for $40.00 Made a Big mistake and More > in likely isnot Working at that company anymore ! >> I recently changed the starter in my 93 Chevy Cheyenne with a 5.7 motor >> and the starter was about $40.00 and that seemed like a good price. Now I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > The person who sold u The Starter for $40.00 Made a Big mistake and More > in likely isnot Working at that company anymore ! I changed the one in my 91 5.7 Suburban about a year ago and it was ~$95. I do think the $160 is a little high. You may want to have the parts guy pull both and just compare them to the one you pulled. Make sure they are the same size, same mounting bolt pattern and everything is exactly the same. In fact when they pulled the starter for my truck the one for the 350 wasn't correct but the one for the 454 was a perfect match...... You may consider taking it to a small rebuild shop that works on starters and alternators. It may not be bad but only the solenoid is bad. mark >I recently changed the starter in my 93 Chevy Cheyenne with a 5.7 motor >and the starter was about $40.00 and that seemed like a good price. Now [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >somebody isn't trying to pull a fast on on me. >Thanks in advance, Phill Wolf Was the starter that you bought rebuilt and your brothers new? That is the only reason for the incredible difference in price that makes sense unless the one on his truck is a totally different unit. ...Ron -- 68'RS Camaro 88'Formula 00'GT Mustang I will suggest this again, Autozone is lousy place for parts, but the on line catalog is a great source of info. both your trucks use the same starter. core value is usually $40-$60 dollars. Quality Reman is about $124 Brand new runs in the neighborhood of $150 low end rebuilt runs about $90. If you can find a good local rebuilder you can do better price wise, the problem seems to be finding a "good" one, who has a good parts source. More a problem with Alts. than starters. prices are average from AZ's web site, and also NAPA's web site. Rebuilt typically means, clean it up, inspect, replace only what is wore out/broke. A reman usually gets brushes, bearings/bushshings, armature turned, new bendex and anything else that is worn replaced. New is easy, everything is new. Also with GM starters the low end often does not include the solenoid, the Reman and new do include solenoids. Whitelightning When looking in the LMC 88-98 truck parts catalog they also list starters for both years of 5.7's. The difference in price is also about $100.00. It seems that I would be paying the premium price because they assume that I wouldn't know that the two starters are the same. I will be pulling the starter out this week and I will let you know what actually comes out of this. Thanks, Phill Wolf >I will suggest this again, Autozone is lousy place for parts, but the on >line [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > PW, Remember, the starter bolts up the transmission, and if you have different transmissions, then it can effect the cost, but only if the mounting is different. > When looking in the LMC 88-98 truck parts catalog they also list starters > for both years of 5.7's. The difference in price is also about $100.00. It [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> >>Whitelightning I will be sure to check the mounting , Thanks, Phil >PW, >Remember, the starter bolts up the transmission, and if you have different [quoted text clipped - 45 lines] > > The small block chevrolet never bolted to the transmission bellhousing. Please enilighten us on the truly unique model. > PW, > Remember, the starter bolts up the transmission, and if you have different [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] >>> >>>Whitelightning > The small block chevrolet never bolted to the transmission bellhousing. > Please enilighten us on the truly unique model. 1955 thru 1962 265/283/327 CHEVY truck Had 3 bolts into the Belhousing ONLY >> PW, >> Remember, the starter bolts up the transmission, and if you have [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] >>>> >>>> Whitelightning Well damn, I learned something. Thanks. >> The small block chevrolet never bolted to the transmission >> bellhousing. Please enilighten us on the truly unique model. [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] >>>>> >>>>> Whitelightning >The small block chevrolet never bolted to the transmission bellhousing. >Please enilighten us on the truly unique model. Sure it did. The 1955 265ci w/ standard transmission had the starter bolt to the bell housing. I don't know when they changed to bolting the starter motor to the block, somewhere in the early/mid 60's maybe. If you look at the picture of the bell housing on the e-bay link below you can just make out the bolt holes on the left where the snout of the starter fits into it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevy-11-Bell-Housing-bellhousing-1955-1959_W0QQi temZ4607784359QQcategoryZ34208QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Here's a link to a starter that you can see the mounting flange on the snout of the starter. Very good reference pics here. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/432-Starter-for-55-62-Corvette-Chevy-Chevrolet_W0 QQitemZ8019718726QQcategoryZ46098QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ...Ron -- 68'RS Camaro 88'Formula 00'GT Mustang >>The small block chevrolet never bolted to the transmission bellhousing. >>Please enilighten us on the truly unique model. > > Sure it did. The 1955 265ci w/ standard transmission had the starter > bolt to the bell housing. I don't know when they changed to bolting > the starter motor to the block, somewhere in the early/mid 60's maybe. 1962 was the last year for the CARS.. My 1 ton 1965 wreckers had the starters that bolted to the Bell housing . By the WAY , The Starter NECK was CAST IRON. both 6cyl and v8's some 1960 Chev Impala's Came with a tubogulide automatic Tranny ( NO Shifting) and that was the only Chevy I know of in that year that had 3 Bolt Starter that bolted to the ENGINE BLOCK. I Know I OWNED one and Had a Hard time Finding a replacement Starter in 1963. No Shifting like the Buick DYNAFLOW ! > If you look at the picture of the bell housing on the e-bay link below > you can just make out the bolt holes on the left where the snout of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > 88'Formula > 00'GT Mustang >>> The small block chevrolet never bolted to the transmission >>> bellhousing. Please enilighten us on the truly unique model. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/432-Starter-for-55-62-Corvette-Chevy-Chevrolet_W0 QQitemZ8019718726QQcategoryZ46098QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem your starter is a HIGH TORQUE starter ! for high compression engines on a low torque Starter , the Starter HOT terminal is Close to the Solinoid . you use a Short Screw to join them. \on a High Torque there is a 1/2 inch spacer between the starter terminal and the solinoid, the Screw is longer to Join them! the corvette Had a Bar like yours instead of the spacer .. >> ...Ron I talked to a GM mechanic that is a friend of a friend and he told me the difference was that 95 starter is a high torque model, but I should be able to use any one for that motor . I didn't get to ask why the 95 starter was a high torque but as long as any one will work who cares. Thanks to all, Phill Wolf >>>> The small block chevrolet never bolted to the transmission >>>> bellhousing. Please enilighten us on the truly unique model. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > >>> ...Ron > I talked to a GM mechanic that is a friend of a friend and he told me > the difference was that 95 starter is a high torque model, but I should > be able to use any one for that motor . I didn't get to ask why the > 95 starter was a high torque but as long as any one will work who cares. > Thanks to all, Phill Wolf He is WRONG.. if your Engine Requires the High Torque Starter , Then the LOW torgue will not last long.. The LOW TORQUE is For The inline 6 cyl. if There is a Spacer Between the Solinoid and The Starter Terminal , Then it is HIGH TORQUE .. Some silinoids Had the Spacer built into The Solinoid >>>>> The small block chevrolet never bolted to the transmission >>>>> bellhousing. Please enilighten us on the truly unique model. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >>>> ...Ron >> I talked to a GM mechanic that is a friend of a friend and he told me >> the difference was that 95 starter is a high torque model, but I [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] >>> >>>>> ...Ron But then why does the 93 cheyenne with the 5.7 require a low torque starter and the 95 5.7 require a high torque if the engines are the same. I am not trying to be difficult,I would just like to bring this up with my friends GM mechanic and explain it to him. Thanks, Phill Wolf |
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