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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Trucks / August 2006

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O2 Sensor Problem in 97 Geo Prizm

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davejohansen@gmail.com - 28 Aug 2006 16:20 GMT
The check engine light came on in my 97 Geo Prizm. The code was P0141
(O2 Heater Circuit (Bank 1, Sensor 2)) and the Chilton manual said that
that was the post-convertor O2 sensor. It had a little diagnostic test
I could try and so I tried that out and according to the test it was
bad. I replaced the sensor on Saturday, but then today on the way to
work the check engine light came on. It was the exact same code. Does
anyone have any suggestions on what the problem might be?
Thanks,
Dave
DirtyDave931 - 29 Aug 2006 21:16 GMT
This problem is very common on European cars.  I haven't seen it in a
lot of Japanese cars like yours, but I have on some of the higher end
ones.  A lot of the time the front 02 sensor starts to go bad, but does
not set a light.  The incorrect information it sends to the computer
changes the way the engine runs and leads to the destruction and/or
degredation of the rear 02.  Sometimes the front 02 is going to hell
and that condition is manifested by a trouble code in the rear 02,
which is picking up bad air mixtures from the cat because the engine is
running too rich or too lean (in this case there's nothing wrong with
the rear 02 and it probably doesn't need replacement).  Either way, I
would suggest starting with the front 02, even though that's not what
the code suggests.

Dave D

> The check engine light came on in my 97 Geo Prizm. The code was P0141
> (O2 Heater Circuit (Bank 1, Sensor 2)) and the Chilton manual said that
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Thanks,
> Dave
davejohansen@gmail.com - 30 Aug 2006 02:50 GMT
Cool. Thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I already replaced the rear
one, so too late for that, but I'll check the front one and see if
that's the problem. Thanks again for the advice.
Dave

> This problem is very common on European cars.  I haven't seen it in a
> lot of Japanese cars like yours, but I have on some of the higher end
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> > Thanks,
> > Dave
ShoeSalesman - 30 Aug 2006 06:08 GMT
> This problem is very common on European cars.  I haven't seen it in a
> lot of Japanese cars like yours, but I have on some of the higher end
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Dave D

well, kinda, I guess. What you describe could happen but it most likely
will degrade the cat not the rear sensor. What happens is the front O2
gets weak which makes the car run a little rich. This will ruin the CAT.
You would then get a code for cat inefficiency because of the rich
mixture, over time, killing the cat. Either way, sounds like his code
was the rear O2 heater circuit, not O2 per say.
davejohansen@gmail.com - 30 Aug 2006 14:47 GMT
Ya, the code was for the post-catalytic converter O2 sensor.
Dave

> > This problem is very common on European cars.  I haven't seen it in a
> > lot of Japanese cars like yours, but I have on some of the higher end
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> mixture, over time, killing the cat. Either way, sounds like his code
> was the rear O2 heater circuit, not O2 per say.
ShoeSalesman - 30 Aug 2006 05:56 GMT
> The check engine light came on in my 97 Geo Prizm. The code was P0141
> (O2 Heater Circuit (Bank 1, Sensor 2)) and the Chilton manual said that
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Thanks,
> Dave

If the code is the HEATER CIRCUIT then check the wiring for being burned
to the exhaust or the like. Then check the fuses, I think that car will
use 12v from the fuse box for the O2 heater. If you car is a 4 cyl it
will only have 2 O2 sensors. Sensor 2 is the rear (after cat) sensor.
 
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