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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Trucks / September 2007

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C 2500 A/C problems

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Natalie Glover - 22 Sep 2007 20:50 GMT
I have 1992 C2500 With 7.4 liter engine automatic. The a/c just all of a
sudden will not turn on compressor. I have checked the fuse and that is
good. what next and where is the location of that part to be diagnosed.
Compressor is fine.

Please help hot in Texas.
William Andersen - 23 Sep 2007 00:45 GMT
Besides the fuse panel  by the drivers lifet ankle, there's a fuse/relay box
under the hood. In my 1998 1500, it's located by the fender, next to the
brake fluid reservoir. I can't open mine more than an inch. It's hinged at
the front, but the top of the fender prevents it from being opened all the
way.
I think the fuse inside the vehicle only protects the fan.

>I have 1992 C2500 With 7.4 liter engine automatic. The a/c just all of a
>sudden will not turn on compressor. I have checked the fuse and that is
>good. what next and where is the location of that part to be diagnosed.
> Compressor is fine.
>
> Please help hot in Texas.
William Andersen - 23 Sep 2007 00:48 GMT
That's supposed to be left ankle.
My A/C compressor also just quit; the fan works fine.
> Besides the fuse panel  by the drivers lifet ankle, there's a fuse/relay
> box under the hood. In my 1998 1500, it's located by the fender, next to
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>>
>> Please help hot in Texas.
GeekBoy - 23 Sep 2007 02:11 GMT
>I have 1992 C2500 With 7.4 liter engine automatic. The a/c just all of a
>sudden will not turn on compressor. I have checked the fuse and that is
>good. what next and where is the location of that part to be diagnosed.
> Compressor is fine.

If you spring a leak and the pressure goes too low, the compressor will not
cut on.
A/C lines are some of the weakest parts on a vehicle.

> Please help hot in Texas.
PhilO - 23 Sep 2007 02:19 GMT
>I have 1992 C2500 With 7.4 liter engine automatic. The a/c

 If the system is low on Freon the compressor won't come on .  This is just
a general a/c answer but there is a pressure sensitive switch on one of the
Freon lines , I've seen it jumperd or shorted out to check the compressor ,
if it kicks in it's either low  on Freon or the switch itself is  bad.
Don't do this for too long as the switch is to protect the compressor when
the system is low. Hang in there winter is coming !
nonsense - 23 Sep 2007 02:43 GMT
>>I have 1992 C2500 With 7.4 liter engine automatic. The a/c
>
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> Don't do this for too long as the switch is to protect the compressor when
> the system is low. Hang in there winter is coming !

It is always in the low pressure line.
Natalie Glover - 23 Sep 2007 19:11 GMT
jumperred the sensor compressor comes on. Does anyone know what pressure
readings are supposed to be for high and low side or hot and cold sides of
the A/C
>I have 1992 C2500 With 7.4 liter engine automatic. The a/c just all of a
>sudden will not turn on compressor. I have checked the fuse and that is
>good. what next and where is the location of that part to be diagnosed.
> Compressor is fine.
>
> Please help hot in Texas.
PhilO - 23 Sep 2007 20:19 GMT
> jumperred the sensor compressor comes on. Does anyone know what pressure
> readings are supposed to be for high and low side or hot and cold sides of
> the A/C
Don't have them, even if you had them ,it sounds like it needs a recharge .
Seems like most cars around then used R12 , kinda hard to get a hold of.
Check into doing a conversion to R32 maybe ?
nonsense - 23 Sep 2007 21:34 GMT
>>I have 1992 C2500 With 7.4 liter engine automatic. The a/c just all of a
>>sudden will not turn on compressor. I have checked the fuse and that is
>>good. what next and where is the location of that part to be diagnosed.
>>Compressor is fine.
>>Please help hot in Texas.

> jumperred the sensor compressor comes on. Does anyone know
> what pressure readings are supposed to be for high and low
> side or hot and cold sides of the A/C

You must have a proper refrigeration gauge set to correctly
service any AC unit.

Look on the face of the blue gauge. You'll see there are
scales on it besides the pressure. Those scales are noted
for type of refrigerant and show you the normal temperature
for a particular gas at a particular temperature.

Let's say it is 80 degrees outdoors and you hook the hose
to the low pressure side of the system. The needle should
be pointing at 80 degrees on the scale marked R12. If it
isn't, and reads lower as is the usual case, then you don't
have a single droplet of Freon left in the system. This is
done without the engine running or the compressor engaged,
of course.

Once you have the system running and well charged, the
correct pressure is the one that corresponds approximately
to 30 degrees on that scale while the compressor is running.
At that pressure/temperature no ice will accumulate on the
coil inside the vehicle.

Also look around and find the sight glass that most R12
systems had on them. You can watch that while charging
and the correct pressure/temperature should be achieved
at about the same time as all bubbling in the sight glass
disappears.

There are no "normal pressures" for the high and low
sides in the context of some single small range of
pressures being correct because refrigerant systems
are saturated and pressures are temperature dependent
when not operating.
Whitelightning - 24 Sep 2007 02:55 GMT
> Also look around and find the sight glass that most R12
> systems had on them. You can watch that while charging
> and the correct pressure/temperature should be achieved
> at about the same time as all bubbling in the sight glass
> disappears.

there are no sight glasses on CCS AC  systems becuase there will be bubbles

On a virgin 92 system I would suspect the Evaperator leaking and or the
shaft seal
the compressor if an R-4 compressor is on it..

Whitelightning
nonsense - 24 Sep 2007 04:29 GMT
>>Also look around and find the sight glass that most R12
>>systems had on them. You can watch that while charging
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>
> there are no sight glasses on CCS AC  systems becuase there will be bubbles

Right. Only on R12 (as mentioned) and R22 systems.

> On a virgin 92 system I would suspect the Evaperator leaking and or the
> shaft seal
> the compressor if an R-4 compressor is on it..
>
> Whitelightning
Whitelightning - 24 Sep 2007 11:52 GMT
>> there are no sight glasses on CCS AC  systems becuase there will be
>> bubbles
>
> Right. Only on R12 (as mentioned) and R22 systems.

GM was using CCS ie Clutch Cycling Systems with R-12, so was Ford, and most
of the "better" imports(if there is such a thing) My 87 and my 91 Chevy
where both
R-12 from the factory, and nether have sight glasses.  Type of refrigerent
has nothing
to do with it.

Whitelightning
nonsense - 24 Sep 2007 13:34 GMT
>>>there are no sight glasses on CCS AC  systems becuase there will be
>>>bubbles
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> has nothing
> to do with it.

What you were unable to find is not on point.

What's wrong with you? Not enough fight at home?
aarcuda69062 - 24 Sep 2007 20:55 GMT
> > R-12 from the factory, and nether have sight glasses.  Type of refrigerent
> > has nothing
> > to do with it.
>
> What you were unable to find is not on point.

He can't find what's not there.

> What's wrong with you? Not enough fight at home?

What's wrong with you?  Not enough misinformation in the world?
PhilO - 25 Sep 2007 00:58 GMT
Quit bickering over a post that the original sender has  probably moved on
from. They were told they have a problem unless they ask a question
specifically about what has been posted  let it go.  From the information
that was given they fixed it this weekend and have forgotten about,  never
to be heard from again.
nonsense - 25 Sep 2007 01:37 GMT
> Quit bickering over a post that the original sender has  probably moved on
> from. They were told they have a problem unless they ask a question
> specifically about what has been posted  let it go.  From the information
> that was given they fixed it this weekend and have forgotten about,  never
> to be heard from again.

Spoilsport!
aarcuda69062 - 25 Sep 2007 02:43 GMT
> Quit bickering over a post that the original sender has  probably moved on
> from. They were told they have a problem unless they ask a question
> specifically about what has been posted  let it go.  From the information
> that was given they fixed it this weekend and have forgotten about,  never
> to be heard from again.

Pbbbbbbtttt!
aarcuda69062 - 24 Sep 2007 12:08 GMT
> > there are no sight glasses on CCS AC  systems becuase there will be bubbles
>
> Right. Only on R12 (as mentioned) and R22 systems.

Wrong.  GM hasn't used a sight glass since 1976 on cars or trucks.
 
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