1989 C1500 350 auto, 143k miles. It runs good, nothing strange,
except the oil pressure gauge jumps around at idle. Running down the
road it sits at a steady indicated 45psi, but at idle it's erractic.
You'd think there was a loose wire that's making contact most of the
time, but opens up just for a split second every few seconds. The
needle bounces around, but always settles back at 45.
I'm wondering if the oil pressure sensor is just an on/off switch
that's set to read 45 when the sensor detects some minimum pressure. I
know some vehicles are configured like that. If so, that would mean
that either the sensor is going bad, or my idle pressure is getting
low and dropping just under the sensor's minimum. It's not burning
any, just worn valve stem seals that puffs a bit of smoke on startup.
Still gets 15-16 mpg in mixed driving.
Any guesses or words of wisdom?
Bob M - 22 Feb 2008 17:45 GMT
> 1989 C1500 350 auto, 143k miles. It runs good, nothing strange,
> except the oil pressure gauge jumps around at idle. Running down the
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> Any guesses or words of wisdom?
Sounds exactly like what my 90 GMC Sierra with 130K miles does. The
truck has a 350 V8 and automatic tranny. The oil pressure gauge has done
this for years. Local shop says everything is fine and the motor will go
another 100K without any major work. By the way mine doesn't burn oil
either. Just like yours there is a puff of blue smoke at first start up
each day.
Bob
Steve W. - 23 Feb 2008 06:06 GMT
>> 1989 C1500 350 auto, 143k miles. It runs good, nothing strange,
>> except the oil pressure gauge jumps around at idle. Running down the
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>> Any guesses or words of wisdom?
Bad sender. What is causing the jumping gauge is the resistor element is
starting to go bad.

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Meat Plow - 22 Feb 2008 18:57 GMT
> 1989 C1500 350 auto, 143k miles. It runs good, nothing strange,
> except the oil pressure gauge jumps around at idle. Running down the
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> Any guesses or words of wisdom?
How erratic? I've seen fluid coupled meters jump around at idle. At 143k I
would suspect your pressure at idle is lower than 45.
JG2U - 22 Feb 2008 23:23 GMT
>> 1989 C1500 350 auto, 143k miles. It runs good, nothing strange,
>> except the oil pressure gauge jumps around at idle. Running down the
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>How erratic? I've seen fluid coupled meters jump around at idle. At 143k I
>would suspect your pressure at idle is lower than 45.
Jumps 20+ psi. From 45 it drops to less than 30, then back to almost
45. It doesn't stop on anything, it's always moving unless it's
stabilized for a couple of seconds on 45.
Is it a true analog gauge, or just a gauge representatoin of an idiot
light?
Whitelightning - 23 Feb 2008 01:51 GMT
> Jumps 20+ psi. From 45 it drops to less than 30, then back to almost
> 45. It doesn't stop on anything, it's always moving unless it's
> stabilized for a couple of seconds on 45.
>
> Is it a true analog gauge, or just a gauge representatoin of an idiot
> light?
replace the sending unit. And no, GM doesnt copy fords fake gauge.
Whitelightning
Bob La Londe - 24 Feb 2008 17:38 GMT
>> Jumps 20+ psi. From 45 it drops to less than 30, then back to almost
>> 45. It doesn't stop on anything, it's always moving unless it's
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> Whitelightning
Interesting. What models did that? I am familiar with their instrument
voltage regulator issues. It was always fun to watch all the gages on a
truck swing to max. Didn't know they had idiot gages on some models.
Steve W. - 24 Feb 2008 21:03 GMT
>>> Jumps 20+ psi. From 45 it drops to less than 30, then back to almost
>>> 45. It doesn't stop on anything, it's always moving unless it's
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> voltage regulator issues. It was always fun to watch all the gages on a
> truck swing to max. Didn't know they had idiot gages on some models.
The fake oil pressure gauges are on just about everything Ford had in
the lineup from 1986 on up or so. (Diesels and heavy trucks as well as
some of the mustangs have real gauges) They are real easy to spot. Turn
on the key look at the gauge, it will drop to zero, start the engine and
the gauge will jump to a spot in the green/normal range and stay there.
no variance regardless of temperature of the oil or rpms of the engine.
Ford even issued a statement about the reason behind it. They had a lot
of people complaining that the oil pressure gauge moved when the engine
was running and (DUH)so they installed a fixed resistor in the system so
it stayed put in the green zone. The sender on some is actually just a
switch (just like an idiot light) others have a real pressure sender
that feeds the computer and the gauge still has the resistor so it stays
put.
Some can be converted to real gauges and some cannot.

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Bob La Londe - 25 Feb 2008 17:07 GMT
> >>> Jumps 20+ psi. From 45 it drops to less than 30, then back to almost
> >>> 45. It doesn't stop on anything, it's always moving unless it's
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> Some can be converted to real gauges and some cannot.
Wow! Interesting stuff there.
My dad is still a strong Ford fan. I think I'll forward that to him.
Steve W. - 25 Feb 2008 21:22 GMT
>>>>> Jumps 20+ psi. From 45 it drops to less than 30, then back to almost
>>>>> 45. It doesn't stop on anything, it's always moving unless it's
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> My dad is still a strong Ford fan. I think I'll forward that to him.
It really pays to keep it in mind because it means that you cannot trust
the gauge. The oil pressure hits 5-9 pounds and that is enough to put
the gauge in the "normal" area. So if someone with a ford shows up and
the engine has a nice rattle but they claim it has good oil pressure
"looks good on the gauge" you get to run a pressure test and show them
the truth.

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