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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Trucks / August 2004

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2000 Silverado 2500 4L80-E shift problems

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mac - 07 Aug 2004 13:37 GMT
I am having shifting issues with my recently purchased used 2000 2500
Silverado 4L80-E tranny.  94000 miles

It up/down shifts hard from gear to gear, it is intermittent, it is
usually when warm, no check engine light ever.  It is sometimes a very
severe harsh shift, and sometimes it shifts fine.

I just did this stuff yesterday to the tranny below....

Changed filter with a new GM tranny filter.

Changed 6 quarts of fluid, fluid and pan were pretty clean, I suspect
previous owner did powerflush recently.

Changed the Pressure Control Solenoid in the bottom of the valve body,
cleaned out the passages in the PCS area, tightened up the valve
body-which was tight. Reassembled, and tested.

I only drove it a few miles since all that yesterday but still felt some
shifting issues.

Any help here, can this be programmed or need software updates to the
PCM?????

HELP !!!!!   mac
shiden_Kai - 07 Aug 2004 16:30 GMT
> I am having shifting issues with my recently purchased used 2000 2500
> Silverado 4L80-E tranny.  94000 miles
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> Any help here, can this be programmed or need software updates to the
> PCM?????

This is the only item I can find for the 4L80 in that year:  It doesn't
appear
to be the same problem you are describing, but it wouldn't hurt to have
the latest calibration anyway.  Have you ever had the vehicle checked
for the latest calibrations?

Stall/Surge at Stop or Shifting to Drive/Reverse (Install Updated
Calibration) #00-07-30-006 - (May 3, 2000)
Stalls/Surge at Stop or When Shifted to Drive or Reverse (Install Updated
Calibration)
1998-2000 Chevrolet and GMC C/K Models and G Van

with Hydra-Matic 4L80-E Transmission (RPO MT1)

This bulletin is being revised to include additional model years and new
Correction information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 87-71-63
(Section 7 -- Transmission/Transaxle).

Condition
Some owners may comment on an engine stall or a slight surge at a stop or
when the transmission is shifted into drive or reverse.

Cause
The transmission calibration may not be optimal for the best
engine/transmission performance.

Correction
Install the latest new calibration.

Ian
David Norris - 08 Aug 2004 00:30 GMT
what is the average cost for this service at most dealerships?  I went to
the website where you enter your VIN and it checks for updates some time ago
and it said I needed new calibration.
shiden_Kai - 08 Aug 2004 15:16 GMT
> what is the average cost for this service at most dealerships?  I
> went to the website where you enter your VIN and it checks for
> updates some time ago and it said I needed new calibration.

They may charge you up to an hour for this.  I think that's a
bit steep, considering it takes all of 10 minutes to do, but that's
flat rate.  I'm still very surprised that GM doesn't do software
updates for free. Maybe, eventually, they will be forced to do
this.

Ian
David Norris - 09 Aug 2004 00:54 GMT
thanks for your reply.  Perhaps at some time in the future the more computer
literate of us could download the patch and flash it with a laptop and a
cable end.
Walter - 09 Aug 2004 02:53 GMT
Hi Mac,

Have you found a solution to your problem yet? I am exeriencing the
same thing with my 2500HD. I would appreciate hearing about it.

Thanks.
Walter

> I am having shifting issues with my recently purchased used 2000 2500
> Silverado 4L80-E tranny.  94000 miles
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>
> HELP !!!!!   mac
mac - 09 Aug 2004 17:43 GMT
It has improved a little, I need to drive it with higher tranny
temperatures to make sure, it wasnt to hot up in boston this weekend.

It does seem better.  I hope its not the bands slipping and the tranny
compensating with increased pressure, I seemed to have gotten ripped off
 by this truck I purchased online from the south recently.

How much is a gm factory rebuilt tranny 4L80-e for a 2000 cost these
days, I will take those over any tranny shop rebuild, from my old
Th700R4 in my 88 silverado

> Hi Mac,
>
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>>
>>HELP !!!!!   mac
Marsh Monster - 09 Aug 2004 03:11 GMT
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============Aug 7, 2004, 12:37pm (CDT+5) From:

macnews@billymac.net (mac)
wrote in message:

I am having shifting issues with my recently purchased used 2000 2500
Silverado 4L80-E tranny. 94000 miles

It up/down shifts hard from gear to gear, it is intermittent, it is
usually when warm, no check engine light ever. It is sometimes a very
severe harsh shift, and sometimes it shifts fine.

I just did this stuff yesterday to the tranny below....

Changed filter with a new GM tranny filter.
Changed 6 quarts of fluid, fluid and pan were pretty clean, I suspect
previous owner did powerflush recently.

Changed the Pressure Control Solenoid in the bottom of the valve body,
cleaned out the passages in the PCS area, tightened up the valve
body-which was tight. Reassembled, and tested.

I only drove it a few miles since all that yesterday but still felt some
shifting issues.

Any help here, can this be programmed or need software updates to the
PCM?????

HELP !!!!!   mac
=================MAKE SURE THE TRANNY IS GOOD
AND HOT......THEN......

1)
 Pull codes on the computer, and write the
codes down for posting here.

2)
  Clear the codes from memory, also pull
the negative battery cable for a minute or
two.....test drive the truck and see if the
symptom was ....

{a}
  Gone
{b}
  Improved
(c)
  A different symptom showed up. (slipping)

Post the results.

It would be a sound idea to clear the codes
then immediately pull codes again before
the test drive to see if there is a hard failure.

Test #2 will indicate if the computer is
initially commanding high line preasure
from start.  Clearing codes will also clear
"learned" memory, and in so doing, will
reset the system to factory programming.
If the the harsh shift situation goes away
for the first few stop and go's on a test drive,
then you can perty much eliminate a computer
programming and MOST components on
the transmission as a cause.
(not all....most)

If the computer thinks that the truck is
being driven under a load situation...
it will cause this symptom.

The most common sensors to cause this
symptom, outside the tranny, are....

VSS
TPS
MAP sensor

in that order.

MarshMonster
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mac - 12 Aug 2004 15:31 GMT
A quick update, This tuesday the tranny was acting up on my ride to
work, harsh shifting through the upshifts. tranny temp was around 180

Wednesday,same trip to work, ran much better, a few harsh shifts here
and there.

I hooked  up Wednesday morning an OBDII unit with my PC Laptop
www.obddiagnostics.com and there is no codes stored, no freeze frame
data, nothing !!

I didnt try anything else because there are no codes, I reset the PCM
anyway through the laptop.  I am wondering if my PCM has issues ??

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