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DaNewf - 11 Nov 2004 13:02 GMT
Hi there.
Gary you reading this? I value your opinion and others as well of course.

I have 69000km on my 2000 GMC Sierra SLE 4X4. It is a daily driver. I never
haul anything in the bed...only a 500lb snowmobile a couple of times in the
past. The tranny fluid has never been changed. Everything works as always
since new. No problems that I am aware of. Yesterday I called a local tranny
shop(excellent reputation) for a price on a transmission fluid change. I
also inquired about a auxiliary cooler. The price that they gave me was $335
taxes in (Canadian) for the tranny flush, cooler and installation......
So my questions are....

Do I really need a cooler ??
Is a tranny flush bad? Or do I just get a fluid/filter replacement?
Is the price quoted good?

Thanks for your help,
Glenn
el Diablo - 11 Nov 2004 23:05 GMT
> Hi there.
> Gary you reading this? I value your opinion and others as well of course.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Thanks for your help,
> Glenn

Transmission flush probably not a good idea, transmission fluid and filter
change is an excellent idea, transmission cooler is even a better idea. Cost
is probably ok as that's probably about $175.00 American?

Brian
Adair Winter - 11 Nov 2004 23:21 GMT
"el Diablo" <nomail@spam.not> wrote in message

> Transmission flush probably not a good idea, transmission fluid and filter
> change is an excellent idea, transmission cooler is even a better idea.
> Cost
> is probably ok as that's probably about $175.00 American?
>
> Brian

If thats the case that is cheap because it costs me $90 for filter and fluid
to do my truck.

Adair
Marsh Monster - 13 Nov 2004 03:56 GMT
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gsquireNODAMNSPAM@nbnet.nb.ca (DaNewf)
wrote:

Hi there.
Gary you reading this? I value your opinion and others as well of
course.

I have 69000km on my 2000 GMC Sierra SLE 4X4. It is a daily driver. I
never haul anything in the bed...only a 500lb snowmobile a couple of
times in the past.
The tranny fluid has never been changed. Everything works as always
since new. No problems that I am aware of.

Yesterday I called a local tranny shop(excellent reputation) for a price
on a transmission fluid change. I also inquired about a auxiliary
cooler.
The price that they gave me was $335 taxes in (Canadian) for the tranny
flush, cooler and installation......
So my questions are....

(1)
Do I really need a cooler ??

(2)
Is a tranny flush bad?
Or
do I just get a fluid/filter replacement?

(3)
Is the price quoted good?


Thanks for your help,
Glenn
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Answers to the quiz

1)
No, unless yer planning on moving to Florida
in the near future to use yer truck to haul
hurricane debris....then yes.
(this answer is based on yer honesty as a
cussimer....meaning you don't haul nut'n)

2)
Flush bad.........fluid/filter good.

3)
I can only give you local US prices......
(local means here, where i'm at......
not up there where Gary's at....
or over yonder where Doc's at....
maybe you shoood ask Ian....
he's up der wher yer at....
and he spokes perty good Canadian too)

Prices listed are all pre-tax and whithout
waste disposal fees

Fluid & Filter Service    $69
Hayden Cooler
(installed price)            $125

unless you frequent a shop in Beverly Hills
or one on Madison Avenue......those prices
should be perty close across the board for
most tranny shops here in the US...give or
take a buck or two.......mostly give   :)

want an option?

AutoZonedOut Store prices:
(again....USA denominations are intended)

6 qts fluid......about $10
Filter,gasket....about $18
Cooler......about $50

so.....what's yer Saturdays worth to you...

hopefully yer questions were answered to yer
expectations because the expectation wuz that
yer questions would be answered,
~:~
MarshMonster
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shiden_kai - 13 Nov 2004 19:33 GMT
> 2)
> Flush bad.........fluid/filter good.

> 3)
> I can only give you local US prices......
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> he's up der wher yer at....
> and he spokes perty good Canadian too)

No, don't bother asking me, because I disagree
with point 2.

Ian
DaNewf - 13 Nov 2004 23:37 GMT
I keep hearing that tranny flushes are bad. Why?? Ian your thoughts on the
matter please.

Thanks,
Glenn
>> 2)
>> Flush bad.........fluid/filter good.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Ian
shiden_kai - 15 Nov 2004 02:31 GMT
> I keep hearing that tranny flushes are bad. Why?? Ian your thoughts
> on the matter please.

I suppose it all depends on the definition of a trans "flush".  If this
means that shop is using some sort of machine that forces clean
trans fluid thru a transmission at some high pressure and possibly
in the reverse direction of normal flow....then I'd probably agree.
I've never seen a machine that does that, but of course, that doesn't
mean they don't exist.

On the other hand, if what is meant is a machine that simply attaches
to the trans cooler lines in series and while the old fluid runs out one
cooler line, new fluid is pumped into the transmission at the exact
pressure that the transmission normally uses at the cooler lines, (in
other words, a simple fluid exchange) then I don't agree that a
trans "flush" is "bad".  Probably because I've used the above
type of machine for about 5 years now on a regular basis and have
never seen any ill effects.  I've used it on my own vehicles, works
quite well.  Especially if you pump about 5 litres more fluid then
the capacity of trans thru it...you are pretty much guaranteed that
there is no old fluid left in the trans.

I think two things might make people nervous about the trans
"flush".  One, it's seen as a profit center for shops...and this
is very true.  Easy money.  Gee, I wonder why it was developed?
I mean, everyone knows that automotive repair businesses are
certainly not in "it" for the money...right?  The other possibility is
that people will forget to do the regular old trans service which
involves dropping the pan, checking for debris, and changing the
filter.  Personally, I believe that most trans shops would actually
prefer to drop the pan.  I mean, you can show the customer any
amount of what really is normal debris, spin a tale of how bad
it looks in there, and get an overhaul out of the deal.  Keeps you
busy in the slow times.

We do both.  We usually alternate, first a fluid "exchange" at
that specified mileage, and then the trans service at the next
specified mileage.  Eventually, or if the fluid is particularly dirty,
we can/will combine the two procedures.

Ian
GC - 13 Nov 2004 07:43 GMT
This is what I put on mine: Derale 22,500 GVW cooler, bought on ebay for
39.95 + shipping. Put it on myself... and did so AFTER changing (myself)
the filter and fluid.
Works great... but if you want the ultimate; check out a Perma-Cool,
made in Caada. Over double the price, but built quality is awesome...
surely it'll last darn near forever.
 
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