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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Trucks / February 2005

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Kevin S. - 04 Feb 2005 06:35 GMT
every 2 or 3 days my battery is dead, i had battery checked,alternater
replaced checked all belts...any ideas?
Santa - 05 Feb 2005 04:02 GMT
light Staying on in the Glove Box

> every 2 or 3 days my battery is dead, i had battery checked,alternater
> replaced checked all belts...any ideas?
The Nolalu Barn Owl - 05 Feb 2005 13:58 GMT
>every 2 or 3 days my battery is dead, i had battery checked,alternater
>replaced checked all belts...any ideas?

Assuming that your battery is in good shape and is not dry you
probably have a short.

I once had a battery go dead every couple of days and the alternator
checked out just fine (after I charged the battery and started it up
to make the test).  Sears couldn't find anything wrong and they gave
me another battery.
What had happened was - I was tooooooo lazy to remove the charging
wire when I changed the alternator and that little spark I saw WAS
important.  One diode from the *diode trio* was blown and that puppy
would now charge unregulated until the battery was dry.  When it
cycled enough to finally boil the battery dry (and not take/hold a
charge) I was able to find the problem.  Until then, every couple of
days or so, the battery was too low to start the car.

When I was a kid, my dad had a Chevy car with long side windows for
the back seat (two door).  I forget the model but it was a nice car
and he was proud of it.  Starting from the third year of ownership the
battery would go dead periodically.  What he finally found, after many
fruitless searches, was that when he loaded his golf bag in the trunk
it wore a wire that was under the rug and it shorted against a bare
spot on the metal.  THAT one drove him nuts for a whole summer :)  Now
and again he would slide some groceries over the spot and ... battery
dead.

Not saying that is what is wrong with your truck.  Just makes for a
story to underline the fact that electrical problems are not simple to
troubleshoot/solve.
--
Regards
Gordie
Kevin S. - 06 Feb 2005 07:40 GMT
*Note*...I put a meter to the battery and negative cable in series as
instructed by the local shade tree mechanic..I have 2.6 Amp draw on battery
with everything off key from ignition and almost every fuse removed from
terminal block.....PS this model of truck doesn't have a glove box
light....THANKS FOR ADVICE TO ALL
"The Nolalu Barn Owl"
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> >every 2 or 3 days my battery is dead, i had battery checked,alternater
> >replaced checked all belts...any ideas?
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> Regards
> Gordie
Santa - 06 Feb 2005 16:45 GMT
Now that you know how to Check the Draw..

Put the meter in the Same way .. To the alternator..

Remove Wire from alt
put one probe on the Alt terminal and the other on the wire you took
off.. you should HAVE  ZERO draw !!

you can also Do the Same thing at The fuse box..

Remove The fuse,  then put the Probes on each side of the Fuse Holder..
you will be checking for anything going thru that circuit. another
words, your Meter is taking Place of The FUSE   ZERO again!

> *Note*...I put a meter to the battery and negative cable in series as
> instructed by the local shade tree mechanic..I have 2.6 Amp draw on battery
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>>Regards
>>Gordie
Santa - 06 Feb 2005 16:47 GMT
Remember  The Clock in your RADIO is Still RUNNING  unless you removed
that fuse

> *Note*...I put a meter to the battery and negative cable in series as
> instructed by the local shade tree mechanic..I have 2.6 Amp draw on battery
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>>Regards
>>Gordie
TranSurgeon - 07 Feb 2005 01:58 GMT
disconnect the big red lead form the alternator

I'd wager the draw will drop to almost nothing (if your truck has a clock)

> *Note*...I put a meter to the battery and negative cable in series as
> instructed by the local shade tree mechanic..I have 2.6 Amp draw on battery
> with everything off key from ignition and almost every fuse removed from
> terminal block.....PS this model of truck doesn't have a glove box
> light....THANKS FOR ADVICE TO ALL
> "The Nolalu Barn Owl"

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> 10&#46&#99&#97> wrote in message
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> > Regards
> > Gordie
kev - 10 Feb 2005 00:58 GMT
> *Note*...I put a meter to the battery and negative cable in series as
> instructed by the local shade tree mechanic..I have 2.6 Amp draw on
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>> Regards
>> Gordie

Just a wondering if the battery goes dead while it is running if so your
charging wire could broke. If it goes dead while sitting then check for
shorts in anything that stays on when the key is out.   Kev
Kevin S. - 10 Feb 2005 03:38 GMT
To all concerned and offering advice...Thank You.
1)Battery does not go dead while running, only after sitting a few days...
2)I have 2.6 / 3.0 amp draw on battery while sitting, engine off, keys from
ignition
3)disconnected following devices with no luck
every fuse and flasher, cigaretter lighter, no bulb in glove box, dome
light,alternator,choke,cd player,analog clock,
4)did replace battery,alternator,starter,distributor,
...did get advice on doorswitches? or horn relay?
THANKS for all wonderful advice this one has puzzled the best shade tree
mechanics in the county....lol

> > *Note*...I put a meter to the battery and negative cable in series as
> > instructed by the local shade tree mechanic..I have 2.6 Amp draw on
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> charging wire could broke. If it goes dead while sitting then check for
> shorts in anything that stays on when the key is out.   Kev
Santa - 11 Feb 2005 03:28 GMT
it is possible you have tWO items Drawing the battery down

you Disable one of them ( Problem#1)  and figure it is not the problem,
( its actually drawing from the battery ) So you reconnect it (because
problem #2 is still drawing from the battery.)

Now you disconnect problem #2  ( problem #1 is drawing from the Battery)

so u figure that is not the problem so  u Reconnect it!
and continue to other Circuits

pull all the fuses    LEAVE them out for the next tests.
Remove the wires from the alt..  If that aint it LEAVE them off and Go
To the next Circuit..

you could have tWO circuits messing up..

You donnot need to use a meter to check for the Short.. do it visually

Remove the pos cable from the Battery

now hook up a Bulb  Between the Battery pos post and the pos Cable you
took off.. ( Go to a salvage Yard and cut out a Tail light socket.. or
just hook up a 12 volt test light in this manner !!

As long as you have a DRAIN on the system the light will Glow.  Once you
disconnect the problem circuit it will go OUT !!!

Here is something ELSE For you

Even tho you did a LOAD test on the Battery,   look at The SIDES of The
BATTERY,   If the Center of either side is Bulging out .. 9 times out of
TEN. That battery has a WEAK CELL..
Take my word For it..
Many Years ago My Family owned one of those So called JUNK YARDS,1939
thu 1988  Way Before LOAD tester were available, and This is How We told
that a Battery WAS BAD ..

And DOC  if you donnot believe me THEN TRY it on a KNOWN Defective
BATTERY !!  you will see the BULDGE !!

> To all concerned and offering advice...Thank You.
> 1)Battery does not go dead while running, only after sitting a few days...
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>>charging wire could broke. If it goes dead while sitting then check for
>>shorts in anything that stays on when the key is out.   Kev
 
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