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el Diablo - 04 May 2005 23:37 GMT
Hello All,

I need to replace the front brakes and rotors on my '99 K-1500. What's
everyone's opining on the discount priced brake rotors? I know that
Raybestos sells a standard rotor and a discount priced rotor. By the eyeball
you can't see any difference in them. So what are the experiences with the
discount rotors? Good or bad.

Thanks

Brian
Old Hippy - 05 May 2005 00:57 GMT
>Hello All,
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>Brian

A good point to always remember....you get what you pay for..!!! Buy
cheap.......you get cheap.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Kenner Costen - 05 May 2005 03:50 GMT
It's your life. Never skimp on brakes or safety gear.

> Hello All,
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> Brian
el Diablo - 05 May 2005 04:05 GMT
> It's your life. Never skimp on brakes or safety gear.
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>> Brian

I appreciate all of the words of wisdom of safety. But I'm looking for
personal experiences good or bad with reduced cost rotors, if anyone has
them.

I work in a manufacturing plant and we market items at reduced costs that
have no difference to the higher priced item we sell. It's a marketing ploy
to sell products to all cost ranges of the market.

It's cheaper for us to sell the same item in a different case than to build
a new manufacturing line to make them cost less and be less quality. That's
just economics.

I worked for Whirlpool prior to working for Ingersoll-Rand. The washers and
driers that we built had identical motors, transmissions and electrical gear
regardless of the model or whether it's rated as heavy duty or not.

Thanks
jdoe - 05 May 2005 12:14 GMT
Usually the cheapies are made in China. I have tried the Chinese ones on a
minivan I had and tested them as I had 2 identical mini vans. I put one high
priced and one low priced rotor on each van and used the same pads
(Raybestos Ceramic Quiet stop) on each. I could find no discernible
difference in performance or pad/rotor wear during this test. This was a one
time purchase fwiw and I now use only US made parts. Mostly because I wear
the flag on my sleeve but also I just "feel" they're better.
Larry

>> It's your life. Never skimp on brakes or safety gear.
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Elbert - 05 May 2005 14:01 GMT
>> It's your life. Never skimp on brakes or safety gear.
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>Thanks

Your point is true....there are many different brands that may
share the same "quality". I too have worked in a maufacturing
environment and have made the same observations.

Higher price does not always equal better quality. The same
goes for some of the brand names.  While most consumers have
no real way to differeniate between one brand and another, they
depend on advertising or other sources.

Personally I've had good experience with bendix brand brake parts.
I've also had good experience with NAPA branded parts. Of course
NAPA buys their parts from other sources and its a roll of the dice
some times to figure out who made what.

The best suggestion I would have is to purchase  mainstream brake
parts.
I buy bendiz where possible, i have bought raybestos parts too.

Generally I don't deal with the generic brake parts because I am
concerned about their quality, and I have no real way to make a
valid judgement on quality. I don't want to find out the hard way
that there is a problem.

Ask around from people that work as mechanics in your area
what they reccomend.  Many people just slap on parts they get
at the local parts store and have good service out of them.

Ask the people who do this type of work every day, they see
a lot more problems or issues with parts than most of us here
would even have a clue about.

I own a Honda and I buy honda branded parts to fix it.
I also own a GM pick-up, I normally buy aftermarket parts
for it but as the situation demands I buy GM parts. On the brakes
for the truck I normally buy bendix / raybestos / napa , because as
many have learned GM really likes to price their parts on the high
end.

Elbert

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Douglas Adams - 05 May 2005 15:57 GMT
Usually cheapies are made from tooling which has gone past its useful life
and sold to after market manufacturers.  Take a good look at those castings
vs OEM.

Personally I only buy Delco as so far they are good and durable.  I get them
at dealer pricing so there isn't big incentive for me to go aftermarket on
my truck.

I find the Raybestos brands to be paper thin and crap - pads falling off
etc.  Sure they replace them under warranty but how much are you saving when
you have to do your brakes twice?

> > It's your life. Never skimp on brakes or safety gear.
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el Diablo - 08 May 2005 02:29 GMT
> Usually cheapies are made from tooling which has gone past its useful life
> and sold to after market manufacturers.  Take a good look at those
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> you have to do your brakes twice?

Thanks to all for your input.

Regards
Brian
Roller - 09 May 2005 03:55 GMT
I have purchased the cheap China made rotors and had them warp up in less
then 10K miles.  I now have the USA built rotors and I have put on over 50K
with no problems.  The OEM rotors were junk in my opinion.  If I did it
over, I would even go after the slotted or drilled rotors.
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Rocketman - 10 May 2005 13:34 GMT
Speaking of slotted or drilled, what is the big deal with them? Why are
they considered better? Is it a heat thing? By having slots of holes do
they do better from a heat point of view?
Tom
el Diablo - 10 May 2005 23:53 GMT
> Speaking of slotted or drilled, what is the big deal with them? Why are
> they considered better? Is it a heat thing? By having slots of holes do
> they do better from a heat point of view?
> Tom

They are designed to cool better and dissipate water better. But I've read
that you need to verify they are approved for street use. A cheaply made
drilled rotor could break on you.

Brian
Roller - 13 May 2005 23:38 GMT
The slots and holes are not for cooling as much as they are for venting the
gasses that build up in your pads during breaking.  This reduces fade under
hard breaking conditions.  So it does not have a direct relationship to
warping, but in general, only the better built rotors with good steel are
offered in a slotted or drilled design.

> Speaking of slotted or drilled, what is the big deal with them? Why are
> they considered better? Is it a heat thing? By having slots of holes do
> they do better from a heat point of view?
> Tom
 
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