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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Trucks / May 2005

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99 GMC Jimmy Misfire problem

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Adam  Frazier - 06 May 2005 13:40 GMT
I've got a 99 Jimmy 4.3l v6, I've got a misfire code on cylinder 4, I've
replaced all plugs, wires, dist. cap, I've still got that damn misfire code
and 10 mpg on the highway, can someone please give me some suggestions as to
what to do.  If this helps this all started when my old lady ran the truck
out of gas about two weeks ago.
GMdude - 06 May 2005 23:47 GMT
Adam,

   I'm a GMC tech., and I also own a '99 Jimmy. The 4.3L engine has had
many issues with the injector poppet nozzles sticking. You can try adding a
bottle of Chevron's fuel injection system cleaner (buy at K-mart, Wal-mart,
or local auto supply), added to your gas tank. GM dealers also sell this
stuff, but they re-label it and give it a GM part number, and then charge
more cash. If this dosn't help, take the truck in to have the injectors
cleaned. They will run the cleaner directly into the injector fuel rail. As
a last resort, the injector need's to be replaced.

GMdude
GMdude - 07 May 2005 00:38 GMT
Adam,

   One more thing,.... Make sure you purchase the "Chevron" injection
system cleaner. For some reason, this stuff works. It has an additive called
"Techron". This Techron additive is also available in "top-tier" gasoline.
Major fuel suppliers, are starting to add the Chevron additive directly into
the gasoline you get at the pump, but progress is slow.

   When you run your fuel system dry, and oxygen is introduced, corrosion
sets-in. Injectors have microscopic holes/orifices. You just need a tiny
speck of rust to plug an injector.

   Gasoline is a corrosive. As long as a steel fuel component is
submerged/filled with gasoline, corrosion will be at a minimum to none. Once
the steel components are exposed to atmosphere, they start to rust. This can
take less than an hour.

   Don't blame wifey for this problem, ... She didn't know.

GMdude
Adam  Frazier - 07 May 2005 16:11 GMT
Thanks for the suggestions, I will buy some injector cleaner and put it in,
I will be sure to buy the Chevron brand.
Another thing, if I do have to get the injectors cleaned I can buy the
cleaner in the can and hook it to the fuel rail myself probally, I know I've
done it on a few fords. The GM dealer may be different, they may not sell
the cleaner in cans.

> Adam,
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GMdude - 07 May 2005 22:40 GMT
Adam,

   You can attempt to clean them yourself, but there is always a chance
that the injector cleaner will make it back to the fuel tank. Injector
cleaner is pretty nasty stuff. It has to be, in order to get the injectors
clean. I have seen some issues with a vehicle needing a new fuel pump, after
injector cleaning (Usually on a higher mileage vehicle). Not too common, but
it dose happen.

   I have devised a plug that I insert in the return line, that doesn't
allow the cleaner to get back to the tank. There is no way to pinch-off a
return line on this vehicle.

   If you try cleaning them yourself, I suggest you have a full tank of
gasoline. This way,... any cleaner that gets back to the tank, gets diluted
well.

   As for the TCCM,... your out of luck. I don't know of any "easy way" to
shift the transfer case, without it. I suppose if I looked through the
schematics, I could find some way to make the transfer case shift, but it's
not worth the effort. This automatic transfer case is electronically
controlled. The TCCM is on a communication buss with the PCM (powertrain
control module). I have a spare module at home, but I'm not willing to part
with it. I know that one day, I might need it.

GMdude
Adam  Frazier - 08 May 2005 03:11 GMT
I put that Techron cleaner in our car tonite and a full tank of gas, still
hasnt made any difference but I will give it a tank of gas at least to run
through.

Do you think you could be able to find another TCCM for me? Around here they
are scarce actually I've called all salvage yards within 200 miles and no
one has them, because we have the 4 switch control. If you could find me one
I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

> Adam,
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> GMdude
Adam  Frazier - 11 May 2005 18:11 GMT
well, I tried ur suggestion of chevron fuel injector cleaner and it failed.
So what are my next options?

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> GMdude
JR - 11 May 2005 23:10 GMT
Adam, I seem to remember you stating that you added
one bottle of techron to a full tank of gas.
IF memory serves the large bottle will treat 12 gallons.
 It doesn't work overnight. You may need to run several
tanks of treated fuel through your injectors to clean them up.
I run a tank of treated fuel through my truck once a month or 6 weeks
just because.
 Regards,
    JR

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> well, I tried ur suggestion of chevron fuel injector cleaner and it
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Adam  Frazier - 12 May 2005 21:03 GMT
I filled up the tank, and I used 2 bottles, I know it was like 13 bucks for
both of them

And since that tank, I've ran almost 2 more tanks of gas and techron through
the truck.

I drive it everyday at least 100 miles, I'm lucky to get 100 miles on a tank
of gas right now. And I keep getting that damn misfire 4 code

> Adam, I seem to remember you stating that you added
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Adam  Frazier - 07 May 2005 16:13 GMT
Since your a GM tech answer me this, can I engage the 4x4 without the TCCM
being in place? Is it vaccum controled at all like the 80 - 90 models?
I have looked myself ragged and cant find the 4 switch  TCCM, everyone has
the three switch. Mine has auto 4x4.

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> GMdude
Bill - 12 May 2005 23:41 GMT
 Have you done a compression test?
Adam  Frazier - 13 May 2005 02:41 GMT
Nope, but its gonna be getting done soon.
That was next before the injector cleaning

>   Have you done a compression test?
 
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