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99 GMC Jimmy Misfire problem
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Adam Frazier - 06 May 2005 13:40 GMT I've got a 99 Jimmy 4.3l v6, I've got a misfire code on cylinder 4, I've replaced all plugs, wires, dist. cap, I've still got that damn misfire code and 10 mpg on the highway, can someone please give me some suggestions as to what to do. If this helps this all started when my old lady ran the truck out of gas about two weeks ago.
GMdude - 06 May 2005 23:47 GMT Adam,
I'm a GMC tech., and I also own a '99 Jimmy. The 4.3L engine has had many issues with the injector poppet nozzles sticking. You can try adding a bottle of Chevron's fuel injection system cleaner (buy at K-mart, Wal-mart, or local auto supply), added to your gas tank. GM dealers also sell this stuff, but they re-label it and give it a GM part number, and then charge more cash. If this dosn't help, take the truck in to have the injectors cleaned. They will run the cleaner directly into the injector fuel rail. As a last resort, the injector need's to be replaced.
GMdude
GMdude - 07 May 2005 00:38 GMT Adam,
One more thing,.... Make sure you purchase the "Chevron" injection system cleaner. For some reason, this stuff works. It has an additive called "Techron". This Techron additive is also available in "top-tier" gasoline. Major fuel suppliers, are starting to add the Chevron additive directly into the gasoline you get at the pump, but progress is slow.
When you run your fuel system dry, and oxygen is introduced, corrosion sets-in. Injectors have microscopic holes/orifices. You just need a tiny speck of rust to plug an injector.
Gasoline is a corrosive. As long as a steel fuel component is submerged/filled with gasoline, corrosion will be at a minimum to none. Once the steel components are exposed to atmosphere, they start to rust. This can take less than an hour.
Don't blame wifey for this problem, ... She didn't know.
GMdude
Adam Frazier - 07 May 2005 16:11 GMT Thanks for the suggestions, I will buy some injector cleaner and put it in, I will be sure to buy the Chevron brand. Another thing, if I do have to get the injectors cleaned I can buy the cleaner in the can and hook it to the fuel rail myself probally, I know I've done it on a few fords. The GM dealer may be different, they may not sell the cleaner in cans.
> Adam, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > GMdude GMdude - 07 May 2005 22:40 GMT Adam,
You can attempt to clean them yourself, but there is always a chance that the injector cleaner will make it back to the fuel tank. Injector cleaner is pretty nasty stuff. It has to be, in order to get the injectors clean. I have seen some issues with a vehicle needing a new fuel pump, after injector cleaning (Usually on a higher mileage vehicle). Not too common, but it dose happen.
I have devised a plug that I insert in the return line, that doesn't allow the cleaner to get back to the tank. There is no way to pinch-off a return line on this vehicle.
If you try cleaning them yourself, I suggest you have a full tank of gasoline. This way,... any cleaner that gets back to the tank, gets diluted well.
As for the TCCM,... your out of luck. I don't know of any "easy way" to shift the transfer case, without it. I suppose if I looked through the schematics, I could find some way to make the transfer case shift, but it's not worth the effort. This automatic transfer case is electronically controlled. The TCCM is on a communication buss with the PCM (powertrain control module). I have a spare module at home, but I'm not willing to part with it. I know that one day, I might need it.
GMdude
Adam Frazier - 08 May 2005 03:11 GMT I put that Techron cleaner in our car tonite and a full tank of gas, still hasnt made any difference but I will give it a tank of gas at least to run through.
Do you think you could be able to find another TCCM for me? Around here they are scarce actually I've called all salvage yards within 200 miles and no one has them, because we have the 4 switch control. If you could find me one I would greatly appreciate it.
Thanks
> Adam, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > GMdude Adam Frazier - 11 May 2005 18:11 GMT well, I tried ur suggestion of chevron fuel injector cleaner and it failed. So what are my next options?
> Adam, > [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > GMdude JR - 11 May 2005 23:10 GMT Adam, I seem to remember you stating that you added one bottle of techron to a full tank of gas. IF memory serves the large bottle will treat 12 gallons. It doesn't work overnight. You may need to run several tanks of treated fuel through your injectors to clean them up. I run a tank of treated fuel through my truck once a month or 6 weeks just because. Regards, JR
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> well, I tried ur suggestion of chevron fuel injector cleaner and it > failed. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> >> GMdude Adam Frazier - 12 May 2005 21:03 GMT I filled up the tank, and I used 2 bottles, I know it was like 13 bucks for both of them
And since that tank, I've ran almost 2 more tanks of gas and techron through the truck.
I drive it everyday at least 100 miles, I'm lucky to get 100 miles on a tank of gas right now. And I keep getting that damn misfire 4 code
> Adam, I seem to remember you stating that you added > one bottle of techron to a full tank of gas. [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > >> > >> GMdude Adam Frazier - 07 May 2005 16:13 GMT Since your a GM tech answer me this, can I engage the 4x4 without the TCCM being in place? Is it vaccum controled at all like the 80 - 90 models? I have looked myself ragged and cant find the 4 switch TCCM, everyone has the three switch. Mine has auto 4x4.
> Adam, > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > GMdude Bill - 12 May 2005 23:41 GMT Have you done a compression test?
Adam Frazier - 13 May 2005 02:41 GMT Nope, but its gonna be getting done soon. That was next before the injector cleaning
> Have you done a compression test?
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