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Programming New Remote

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Jonathan - 21 Oct 2005 01:34 GMT
Greetings,

I recently lost my #2 remote for my 2004 Chevy 2500HD and will be purchasing
a replacement on eBay soon. I still have my #1 remote.  My question is can I
program the new remote myself without any special (expensive) tools or do I
need to go to the dealer to have it done?

Any sage words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks - Jonathan
Kevin - 21 Oct 2005 03:49 GMT
Good luck, I asked the same thing and nothing yet for my 05 Colorado.
Dealer wants 75.00 Total rip off.

> Greetings,
>
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>
> Thanks - Jonathan
Jonathan - 21 Oct 2005 04:02 GMT
Greetings,

I found some instructions for a 2003 Silverado on the net but am unsure if
they will work.  If you have a 2005 Colorado and need your remote
programmed, the dealer should do it under warranty - just tell them the
remote stopped working and you don't know why.  Remember to give them both
remotes however, because both need to be programmed at the same time.

We purchased a Pontiac Vibe for my wife recently that is still under
warranty and the former owner only had one remote.  I bought a new one off
eBay and went to the dealer with both.  They programmed both for free no
questions asked.

Cheers - Jonathan

> Good luck, I asked the same thing and nothing yet for my 05 Colorado.
> Dealer wants 75.00 Total rip off.
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>>
>> Thanks - Jonathan
Robert Ball - 21 Oct 2005 05:41 GMT
We bought a replacement at the dealer for about $50, programming was
included free.  Many dealers have decided to be competitive, they do
alignments and oil change for same price as discount chains.  I couldn't
beat the price on remote after I paid shipping from an on-line source.

>Greetings,
>
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>
>  
shiden_kai - 22 Oct 2005 19:13 GMT
> I found some instructions for a 2003 Silverado on the net but am
> unsure if they will work.  If you have a 2005 Colorado and need your
> remote programmed, the dealer should do it under warranty - just tell
> them the remote stopped working and you don't know why.  Remember to
> give them both remotes however, because both need to be programmed at
> the same time.

Jonathan, did you manage to get your remote programmed with those
instructions?  If not, let me know, and I'll copy and paste the 2004
instructions for you.  2004 full size trucks can be programmed manually.

Ian
Jonathan - 22 Oct 2005 20:00 GMT
Ian,

I haven't yet received the new remote - it'll be here in a few days.  If
it's not too much trouble please post the instructions anyway as I'd like to
keep them on hand. Not only that, but I trust you as a source.

Cheers - Jonathan

>> I found some instructions for a 2003 Silverado on the net but am
>> unsure if they will work.  If you have a 2005 Colorado and need your
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>
> Ian
shiden_kai - 22 Oct 2005 21:09 GMT
> Ian,
>
> I haven't yet received the new remote - it'll be here in a few days. If
> it's not too much trouble please post the instructions anyway as
> I'd like to keep them on hand. Not only that, but I trust you as a
> source.

Thanks for the vote of confidence....here you go:

Method 1 - No Tools Required, Program All Transmitters

Important
All transmitters which are to be recognized by the PDM must be programmed in
a single programming sequence. When using this program method, all
previously programmed transmitters will be erased upon the receipt of the
programming signal from the first transmitter.

The order in which the transmitters are programmed will determine its
numbering position within the PDM memory. The first transmitter programmed
will be transmitter #1, and the second transmitter programmed will be
transmitter #2. The number stamped on the transmitter case is for reference
only; #2 can be programmed as #1, or vice versa. Additional unnumbered
transmitters are also available.

 1.. Close all the vehicle doors.
 2.. Insert the ignition key into the ignition lock cylinder.
 3.. Press and hold the door unlock switch.
 4.. While holding the door lock switch in the unlock position, cycle the
ignition ON, OFF, ON, OFF.
 5.. Release the door unlock switch. The doors will lock and unlock to
confirm the program mode.
 6.. Press and hold the LOCK button and the UNLOCK button simultaneously on
one transmitter. After a delay of approximately 15 seconds, the doors will
lock and unlock to confirm the programming of that transmitter.
 7.. Repeat the previous step to program up to 4 transmitters.
 8.. Turn the ignition switch to the RUN position in order to exit the
keyless entry transmitter programming mode.
 9.. Operate the transmitter functions in order to verify correct system
operation.

Ian
Commentator - 21 Oct 2005 15:18 GMT
> Good luck, I asked the same thing and nothing yet for my 05 Colorado.
> Dealer wants 75.00 Total rip off.

Nothing yet?

I already replied to you that it can only be done at the dealer.

As to the price, yes, he is ripping you off.  So call around and find
another dealer.

>> Greetings,
>>
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>>
>> Thanks - Jonathan

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Adam - 21 Oct 2005 15:55 GMT
Doesn't any of you know that you can buy those key fabs at Autozone for a
lot less than the dealer and they will do the same thing for you? And they
can program them too.

> > Good luck, I asked the same thing and nothing yet for my 05 Colorado.
> > Dealer wants 75.00 Total rip off.
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> --
> I am 3 of 10.  Prepare to be assimilated.
HLS@nospam.nix - 21 Oct 2005 16:13 GMT
> Doesn't any of you know that you can buy those key fabs at Autozone for a
> lot less than the dealer and they will do the same thing for you? And they
> can program them too.

That is what the sign on the front door at Autozone promises.  There is also
a website where new
remote fobs and programming can be done.  It was a bit pricey, about $60-70,
at this website but IS
possible, and not only the dealer can do it.

Does anyone know what Autozone charges?  We are missing one of our remotes,
and it is a PITA
not to have it available, but not worth $70 either.
Commentator - 21 Oct 2005 16:19 GMT
>> Doesn't any of you know that you can buy those key fabs at Autozone
>> for a lot less than the dealer and they will do the same thing for
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> remotes, and it is a PITA
> not to have it available, but not worth $70 either.

<sigh>

We were talking about programming, not the best place to buy a remote.

(I paid $22 on eBay, dealer wanted > $100)

As to programming on a website - for the vehicle in question, cannot be
done.  Period.

If AutoZone can do it great, I did not know that, but the fact remains you
cannot do it yourself and must pay someone who has the right equipment to do
it.  Specific HARDWARE is required to program this remote.

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Adam - 21 Oct 2005 18:31 GMT
I bought a remote for our 99 jimmy and I programmed it, all I did was put in
the batteries and got in the truck and pressed the unlock and lock buttons
and held them untill the truck beeped, dont know how this will work for
anyone else.

> >> Doesn't any of you know that you can buy those key fabs at Autozone
> >> for a lot less than the dealer and they will do the same thing for
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> --
> I am 3 of 10.  Prepare to be assimilated.
Mike Levy - 22 Oct 2005 00:06 GMT
>I bought a remote for our 99 jimmy and I programmed it, all I did was put in
>the batteries and got in the truck and pressed the unlock and lock buttons
>and held them untill the truck beeped, dont know how this will work for
>anyone else.

I did the same for my 2000 S-10.  However, the procedures change from
model to model and year to year as electronics vary and are improved
upon through the course of a design.  I now have a 2006 Grand Prix and
must take the car to the dealer if a new remote must be programmed.  I
verified this by looking in the GM Service Info system, the only
procedure listed involves using a GM scan tool.

>> >> Doesn't any of you know that you can buy those key fabs at Autozone
>> >> for a lot less than the dealer and they will do the same thing for
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>> I am 3 of 10.  Prepare to be assimilated.
no one - 22 Oct 2005 00:45 GMT
>>I bought a remote for our 99 jimmy and I programmed it, all I did was put in
>>the batteries and got in the truck and pressed the unlock and lock buttons
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> verified this by looking in the GM Service Info system, the only
> procedure listed involves using a GM scan tool.

Thats why I donnot buy a newer Vehicle..
Buying one LOCKS u into Going to the DEALER ..
I'll Stick with my 89 s10.

When I want to fix a Vehicle , I DONNOT want to Have to DEPEND on a
DEALER , Especially A GM DEALER ..  What happens if ALL of GM does as
DELPHIA is doing But CANNOT be SAVED from Bankruptcy...The Consumer is
Goingto Be stuck with Vehicles that CANNOT be fixed, Because all the
DEALERS will be gone ALSO !

NO DEALER= No Getting a NEW Chipped KEY MADE!

>>>>>Doesn't any of you know that you can buy those key fabs at Autozone
>>>>>for a lot less than the dealer and they will do the same thing for
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>>>I am 3 of 10.  Prepare to be assimilated.
Jonathan - 22 Oct 2005 01:31 GMT
Greetings,

First off, it would be a cold day for everyone in this country if a company
as large a GM went down - if a company that large went south this country
would have more problems across the board than just where to get our cars
fixed.  There is no way that any consumer who purchases a new vehicle these
days isn't going to be reliant to some extent on the manufacturer no matter
what make or model.  Not everyone wants to drive around in a clunker that
they have to keep running with a coat hanger and duct tape.  Also, what are
you giving up for the perceived ability to be able to fix your '89 S10?
Fuel economy, lower emissions, power and safety come to mind.

Sorry but Delphi is no longer a part of GM and hasn't been for a while.  In
fact, one reason why they filed for bankruptcy is because they got saddled
with the pay structure that was negotiated when GM was their parent.  Delphi
is also an extremely large company as well so don't expect to see them
shuttering all of their operations anytime soon either.

As for your chipped key, I've gotten spares made at independent locksmiths
before with no problem.  It's just a matter of finding a place that has the
machine to read the codes and the blanks to receive the programming - not
everyone has them but not impossible to find either.  And when it comes to
service, I must be the one and only SOB in the entire country that has
consistently gotten great service from every Chevy dealer I've been to.
I've been driving GM products continually since 1988 and have never had a
problem with any of my dealers' service departments.  I can't tell you if
it's the same at the corporate level because frankly I've never had to
contact GM in order to settle any issue that a dealer I've used has been
unable or unwilling to handle.  Others may not be that lucky, but from my
perspective I can't possibly see where their service could be any better.

Cheers - Jonathan

> Thats why I donnot buy a newer Vehicle..
> Buying one LOCKS u into Going to the DEALER ..
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>
> NO DEALER= No Getting a NEW Chipped KEY MADE!
no one - 22 Oct 2005 05:38 GMT
> Greetings,
>
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> you giving up for the perceived ability to be able to fix your '89 S10?
> Fuel economy, lower emissions, power and safety come to mind.

Purchased it NEW in NOV 1988  ( $8,246.98 )

28 MPG

No payments

4.3 is powerful enough for me 225,000 miles

Been plowing Snow with it since 1995.

Same Automatic Tranny As when I bought it in 1988  ( Same Fluid)

Not Rusted out

This Model Truck HAS NEVER been in a RECALL

Low Insurance RATE !

> Sorry but Delphi is no longer a part of GM and hasn't been for a while.  In
> fact, one reason why they filed for bankruptcy is because they got saddled
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> consistently gotten great service from every Chevy dealer I've been to.
> I've been driving GM products continually since 1988

I've had Chevy's since 1958

 and have never had a
> problem with any of my dealers' service departments.  I can't tell you if
> it's the same at the corporate level because frankly I've never had to
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>>
>>NO DEALER= No Getting a NEW Chipped KEY MADE!
Charles Bendig - 22 Oct 2005 15:48 GMT
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> NO DEALER= No Getting a NEW Chipped KEY MADE!

    Not True. A local (Dayton Ohio) area locksmith I deal with has the
"Chip" keys. That "Chip" is nothing more then a simple resistor.

    The keys have to have the value read. Then matched to the proper blank
with the correct resistor value.

    For some items I perfer to buy them OEM from a GM dealer then
aftermarket stuff. Lock cylinders & key switches are one of those items.
Although a Good locksmith can Code your locks to your exsisting code, as
well as cut you a key basied on the code on the cylinder.

    As for Remote Programing. Anyone with the proper tools can do it. Yet
very few Non-Dealer shops invest in the equpiment to do it. Give it 5 to
8 years and they will.
Charles
Adam - 22 Oct 2005 16:47 GMT
I know a former friend of mine used to run his own shop out of his garage,
he was an ASE Ford Mechanic, he used to be able to program key fabs. He
showed me once on his handheld.

> <snip of majority of quoted text>
> > NO DEALER= No Getting a NEW Chipped KEY MADE!
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> 8 years and they will.
> Charles
HLS@nospam.nix - 22 Oct 2005 18:39 GMT
Ive bought the GM resistor keys in Houston at several lockshops.  No
problem.
There are other keys with more secure systems, and I dont know how difficult
they are to replace.
HLS@nospam.nix - 21 Oct 2005 20:15 GMT
> As to programming on a website - for the vehicle in question, cannot be
> done.  Period.

Well, they say they can.  The fob and programming was about $70.  You order,
give them the required information, and you get your remote in the mail.

The individual cannot do it over a website, true.  The company offering the
service provides everything.

Now, I would venture to say that the electronics behind the fobs is not so
very complicated, and it probably wouldn't be any hill for a climber to
BECOME
ABLE to do it.   I'll have to look into this (but I dont care enough one way
or
the other to try it myself.)
William R. Walsh - 21 Oct 2005 23:16 GMT
Hi!

> Now, I would venture to say that the electronics behind the fobs is not so
> very complicated, and it probably wouldn't be any hill for a climber to
> BECOME ABLE to do it.   I'll have to look into this (but I dont care
enough one way
> or the other to try it myself.)

I'd have to agree. If you get the remote open (as if you were going to
change the battery) then you should be able to see the model and possibly
even the maker of the IC inside.

I was able to find a data sheet for the IC used in my 2003 S-10's key
fobs...in that case there was no description about how do any needed
"programming" to the IC. Nor is there anything on the circuit board to which
a programmer might connect. Maybe it's done via the onboard radio
transceiver?

It doesn't matter very much to me any longer. One remote went bonkers and
the other has gone missing. I don't care to get them replaced.

William
Bob - 22 Oct 2005 02:25 GMT
> Hi!
>
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> a programmer might connect. Maybe it's done via the onboard radio
> transceiver?

Generally the vehicle is programmed to accept the remote, not the other way
around.
                                     Bob
HLS@nospam.nix - 21 Oct 2005 20:21 GMT
> We were talking about programming, not the best place to buy a remote.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> cannot do it yourself and must pay someone who has the right equipment to do
> it.  Specific HARDWARE is required to program this remote.

Here is an example of a keyless remote site, offering both aftermarket and
OEM type
fobs and programming assistance.  I dont believe this is the site I
originally found, but
it illustrates the claims anyway.

http://www.keylessride.com/products/default.asp
Mike Levy - 22 Oct 2005 00:03 GMT
>> We were talking about programming, not the best place to buy a remote.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
>http://www.keylessride.com/products/default.asp

I was able to buy a new remote for my 2000 S-10 and program it myself.
I now have a 2006 Grand Prix and it must be taken to a dealer to be
programmed using a scan tool.  The programming changes from vehicle to
vehicle, but the fact still remains, the manufacturer is making it
harder for the DIY to DIY...
Tim & Linda - 24 Oct 2005 04:44 GMT
AutoZone was no help for me.
I reprogrammed my 98 GMC Jimmy the same way shiden_kai said.

1.. Close all the vehicle doors.
 2.. Insert the ignition key into the ignition lock cylinder.
 3.. Press and hold the door unlock switch.
 4.. While holding the door lock switch in the unlock position, cycle the
ignition ON, OFF, ON, OFF.
 5.. Release the door unlock switch. The doors will lock and unlock to
confirm the program mode.
 6.. Press and hold the LOCK button and the UNLOCK button simultaneously on
one transmitter. After a delay of approximately 15 seconds, the doors will
lock and unlock to confirm the programming of that transmitter.
 7.. Repeat the previous step to program up to 4 transmitters.
 8.. Turn the ignition switch to the RUN position in order to exit the
keyless entry transmitter programming mode.
 9.. Operate the transmitter functions in order to verify correct system
operation.

>> Doesn't any of you know that you can buy those key fabs at Autozone for a
>> lot less than the dealer and they will do the same thing for you? And
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> and it is a PITA
> not to have it available, but not worth $70 either.
 
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