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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Trucks / January 2006

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Opinions on TBI to Quadrajet manifold adapter...

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Jon Pickens - 27 Jan 2006 19:34 GMT
Anyone use one of these things?

See it here:
http://69.20.110.81/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=126093

It appears to line up the blades on the throttle body with the
secondaries on the Quadrajet intake manifold.  Using one would be
easier than changing the manifold obviously, but I'm wondering if
anyone's tried this and can give feedback one way or another.

Thanks,
~jp
TheSnoMan - 27 Jan 2006 20:31 GMT
> Anyone use one of these things?
>
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> Thanks,
> ~jp

It should work, They use secondary bores because primarys are too small
for TBI unit.

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David Johnson - 27 Jan 2006 22:59 GMT
It will probably work but I would think a TBI manifold would be best suited
for the job. A boneyard or ebay manifold would probably be cheaper than the
adaptor.
> Anyone use one of these things?
>
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> Thanks,
> ~jp
Whitelightning - 27 Jan 2006 23:03 GMT
> It will probably work but I would think a TBI manifold would be best suited
> for the job. A boneyard or ebay manifold would probably be cheaper than the
> adaptor.

My thoughts as well
I would be worried about lean mix on the front cylinders. under light
loads and idling,

Whitelightning
TheSnoMan - 28 Jan 2006 04:04 GMT
>> It will probably work but I would think a TBI manifold would be best
> suited
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> Whitelightning

How do you figure that? They are all on a common phlenum and the 4bbl
manifold will flow better than the TBI one that is pretty retrictive. I
would use 4bbl manifold and a oversized TBI unit too because a bigger
TBI will add little flow to a stock TBI intake.

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Charles Bendig - 28 Jan 2006 02:19 GMT
> Anyone use one of these things?
>
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> Thanks,
> ~jp

    If you don't want to use a TBI manifold, use the GM 454 Adapter. Their
is no Small block vs Big Block carb mounting differences. Only Spread
bore (Q-jet intakes) and Sqaure Bore (Real Mans Intakes). GM used
Adapters on 88 and up 454 TBI engines with a old carbureted intake
manifold on them.

    I have one such adapter and I aint coming off it. it's off a 93 3500
Cab & Chassis with Dual Real Wheels. Had a 454 TBI engine, a 4L80E
transmission, still has a Dana 70 rear axle.
Charles
Jon Pickens - 28 Jan 2006 16:34 GMT
I'm actually watching a throttle body w/ adapter from an '89 GMC 454 on
eBay right now.

My only concern was that it doesn't split into 4 distinct holes for the
manifold, it just mirrors the outer shape of the carb's bore pattern.
Wouldn't air flowing straight down and hitting that 'wall' in the
center of the bore cause some sort of problem?

My manifold has 4 holes, 2 smaller ones for the primaries, and 2
biggers ones for the secondaries, which is the way all the Quadrajet
manifolds I've seen are.

When I was shopping for the adapter to put the Edelbrock (AFB) on the
manifold, I found 2 different types.  The 'open' type, which takes the
square bore and opened it up to match the Quad pattern, was cheaper and
that's what I bought.  Then after I bought it I found one that in my
mind was better.  It actually had 4 holes in it that smoothly angled
away and got bigger to perfectly match the Quadrajet pattern.  The
second type would have to be better for smooth, turbulence free
airflow, although I don't know how much of a difference it'd make at my
RPM range (rarely above 3000 I'm guessing, haven't hooked up the tach
yet).  I suppose it might not really be a problem unless I was racing,
but you probably know better than me.

~jp
Charles Bendig - 30 Jan 2006 04:45 GMT
> I'm actually watching a throttle body w/ adapter from an '89 GMC 454 on
> eBay right now.
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> ~jp

    Get a Torqurer II Intake use the 454 adapter, install, enjoy.
You will thank me later.
Charles
Jon R. Pickens - 30 Jan 2006 13:04 GMT
I just checked one out.  Looks like what you referred to as a "Real
Mans Intake" :-)

I trust your opinion, but I'm curious as to why it says "Not for heavy
vehicles (trucks, vans etc.); use Performer EPS #2701" on the
description.  I checked both manifolds, and the Performer is supposed
to be good from Idle to 5500rpm whereas the Torker II is rated to make
most its power from 2500 to 6500rpm.

Never heard of an intake not being used for heavy vehicles...

~jp
TheSnoMan - 30 Jan 2006 14:54 GMT
> I just checked one out.  Looks like what you referred to as a "Real
> Mans Intake" :-)
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> ~jp

Manifolds like Torkers are not the best choice for heavy vehicle because
they lack low speed response and power because of their design. You want
a manifold that has a lower RPM range for better power and responce in a
heavy vehicle.

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Whitelightning - 30 Jan 2006 15:37 GMT
> I just checked one out.  Looks like what you referred to as a "Real
> Mans Intake" :-)
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>
> ~jp

Lots of times. The key is the Idle to 5500 vs. the 2500 to 6500
The first is going to give you power at the bottom end though out the
mid range
where a heavy truck or any vehicle towing needs, it but limit upper
rpm.  The second
is designed for drag racing with a high stall torque converter.

Whitelightning
Jon R. Pickens - 30 Jan 2006 15:56 GMT
Yeah, I kinda answered my own statement after reading what I typed,
LOL...

This head cold is making me loopy.

~jp
Jon Pickens - 28 Jan 2006 16:36 GMT
I did find this:

http://www.customefis.com/pod.html

Scroll down to the 4BBL and Quadrajet-style throttle bodies this guy is
making.  Very cool.

~jp
 
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