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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Trucks / October 2006

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Maybe a stupid question... Ring gear sizes...

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Jon R. Pickens - 03 Oct 2006 17:50 GMT
I was just sitting in a very boring training class here at work, and my
mind started wondering.  I was thinking about the 292ci motor and how
its longer stroke helps increase the torque at lower RPMs.

I was just wondering if this would apply to differentials as well.

Think of it this way...  if you had two different theoretical axles,
equal in every single way except for the diameter of the ring gear,
would there be more or less leverage (torque) applied to the axle
shafts with a larger ring gear vs. a smaller one? (10.5" and a 8.5"
gear respectively, but with the same ratio)

I was just thinking that the outer edge of the larger gear would have
to be traveling faster than the smaller gear in order to make a
complete revolution in the same period of time...but would there be any
loss or gain because of the different diameter ring gears?

Again, this is assuming all other things being equal, where weight and
ground clearance and tire size are of no relavance, and the tests were
conducted on a rear-wheel Dyno setup.

Forgive me if this is completely asinine.  I'm just *really* bored
today ;-)

~jp
SnoMan - 03 Oct 2006 20:03 GMT
>I was just sitting in a very boring training class here at work, and my
>mind started wondering.  I was thinking about the 292ci motor and how
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>~jp

Your logic has merit but the problem with it is that a bigger ring
gear also has a bigger pinion diameter at tooth contact area with same
final drive ratio so the force applied to gear faces may be less but
the same net result is found on axle shafts vs a smaller ring and
pinion of same ratio and same input torque.  In theory the bigger gear
would be more efficent at same high axle torque load because the
contact area would have lower shearing forces on it because of reduced
pressure but then there is also a bit more surface area to shear too.
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Jon R. Pickens - 04 Oct 2006 04:14 GMT
Interesting...  I kinda started thinking along those same lines after
posting, but you put it into words where I could not.

I figured that in a real world application, any gains would be negated
by the larger mass of the gears and entire rotating assembly--hence my
"all other things being equal" disclaimer.

Still, good to hear it from someone else.  I learn more from the
discussions that go into theory than I do from the posts that just say
"do this and the problem will go away"... :-)

~jp

> Your logic has merit but the problem with it is that a bigger ring
> gear also has a bigger pinion diameter at tooth contact area with same
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