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ATTN: Beware of the Abominable Snoman!

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LMAO - 27 Oct 2006 17:21 GMT
The abominable Snoman is a large hairy bubba like creature associated
with the seldom snow covered regions of the Ohio between Indiana and
Pennsylvania. He is also known as Snojob, Snoboy, idiot, and many foul
names. One would think the sightings of the Abominable Snoman are rare
but sadly that is not the case. The Abominable Snoman avidly makes his
presents well known in many groups.

Some of these groups are:
alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks
alt.autos.dodge.trucks"
alt.trucks.ford
rec.autos.makers.saturn
rec.autos.4x4
alt.rv
alt.autos.toyota.trucks
alt.trucks.chevy
alt.autos.gm

  The Snoman can exceed 300 post in one months time. That's more than
10 post per day which one can conclude that the Snoman has no life
outside of the internet. One would think with such extensive amounts of
post in automotive related groups that the Snoman would have an
extensive background in automotive service and repair. However some
simple research into the Snomans background quickly proves otherwise.

  Taking the advice of the Abominable Snoman is done at your own risk.
You put your money, your vehicle, and your life on the line with a
creature that has no background in automotive technology. The Snoman
will often reference objects with little correlation to modern vehicles,
such as his 50+ year old John Deere tractor to back up his off the wall
claims on coolant. The Snoman has no regard for the pH balance, freeze
protection, or boiling point requirements for modern automobiles as the
Snoman simply relies on the visual appearance of the coolant in a 50+
year old tractor.

  The Snoman is also a big conundrum in the sense that the Snoman will
rant with claims of the oil industry price gouging but at the same time
pointlessly recommend the higher priced higher octane gas for vehicles
that do no require nor benefit from it. And where does the Snoman come
up with the facts that this will improve HP and gas mileage? From non
other than the Snoman himself. A simple Google search would turn up many
first hand sources clearly stating that higher octane gas has often hurt
their gas mileage and shown harder cold start issues in vehicles not
rated for it. (We still await his answer on where the knock sensor is on
a RAM V10.)

  The Snoman is a very dangerous beast. Just one example of the dangers
of the Snoman is his promoting the use of hydrocarbons in Mobile Air
Conditioning Systems. Anyone with real experience in the MACS field can
tell you how very dangerous the use of hydrocarbons can be. The
explosive state of hydrocarbons in the AC system can very well take
someone's life. But this has not deterred the Snoman the least bit as
his claims that tetrofluoroethane (only known as r134a to a layman such
as him) is somehow more hazardous to human health.

  The Snoman also continuously makes some interesting and clearly
hypocritical statements which make no sense at all.

Here is but one example of such a post
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.4x4.chevy-trucks/browse_thread/thread/5
81c43a7ef539df3/
QUOTE:
  "You are to only BoZo here. giving the wrong advise just
  because you  like to hear yourself talk. Get a life"
 
  Clearly the Snoman was wrong and for some reason wanted to remain
wrong instead of admitting his error. This flies in the face of what he
once said.

QUOTE :
  "When I am clearly in error I will admit it while others
   do not so they are never wrong in their mind anyway."

  That has yet to happen after a countless number of errors. One would
think that the Snoman has a severe case of alzheimer's or an advance
case of syphilis. If this were the case it would explain many things.

   In closing as long as the Snoman is not taken seriously the risk to
ones life is minimal. However great effort must be taken to ensure that
none of the Snomans statements are ever taken seriously. This would
sound like a great deal of work but the work is entertaining do to the
ever so slow dim-witted nature of the Snoman.

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PS. feel free to repost this where needed
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Roy - 27 Oct 2006 22:31 GMT
>   The abominable Snoman is a large hairy bubba like creature associated
> with the seldom snow covered regions of the Ohio between Indiana and
[quoted text clipped - 81 lines]
> PS. feel free to repost this where needed
> _________________________________________

This should be posted at every group the idiot show's up at. Sort of a
public service announcement.
Steve - 28 Oct 2006 08:30 GMT
Man, as I've said a thousand times over "everyone is entitled to their
opinion, including Snoman.

All points of view whether completely inane or sheer genius should be
welcomed without ridicule in here. It is up to the individual to
decide if any point of view has merit.

To mock an individual simply for having a different aspect on
automotive repair is lacking in good taste and is utterly demeaning.

If you don't agree with his opinions then agree to disagree and leave
it be. Kindness and respect of others, should be the order of the day.
Steve

>   The abominable Snoman is a large hairy bubba like creature associated
>with the seldom snow covered regions of the Ohio between Indiana and
[quoted text clipped - 81 lines]
>PS. feel free to repost this where needed
>_________________________________________
Roy - 28 Oct 2006 13:22 GMT
> Man, as I've said a thousand times over "everyone is entitled to their
> opinion, including Snoman.

A opinion is one thing. Constantly posting wrong misleading and at times
dangerous info is another!

> All points of view whether completely inane or sheer genius should be
> welcomed without ridicule in here. It is up to the individual to
> decide if any point of view has merit.

A novice may not know enough to decide.

> To mock an individual simply for having a different aspect on
> automotive repair is lacking in good taste and is utterly demeaning.

That is not the case, as has been pointed out numerous times.

> If you don't agree with his opinions then agree to disagree and leave
> it be. Kindness and respect of others, should be the order of the day.

Also, if one is not  informed on a issue it would be best if one were to
stay out of it.
LMAO - 28 Oct 2006 17:43 GMT
> Man, as I've said a thousand times over "everyone is entitled to their
> opinion, including Snoman.

Until it puts someone at risk of injury. Did you bother to read any of
that? Do some research.

> All points of view whether completely inane or sheer genius should be
> welcomed without ridicule in here. It is up to the individual to
> decide if any point of view has merit.

HC's in the ac system isnt inane, its insane!

> To mock an individual simply for having a different aspect on
> automotive repair is lacking in good taste and is utterly demeaning.

I didnt start this with snoman. Snoman came out of the blue one day and
started sh.t with every reg in the group I was in. He was trying to be
the alpha male or some sh.t which doesnt fly there. He tried to tear
down our post on proper repairs and such with his off the wall
disinformation. I can tell you this, the mocking and name calling did
NOT start from our end.

> If you don't agree with his opinions then agree to disagree and leave
> it be. Kindness and respect of others, should be the order of the day.
> Steve

Kindness and respect has to be earned in my book. The day Snoman showed
up he done a thorough job of bankrupting all of that by showing no
respect to anyone. He thought he had all of the answers...He had none to
speak of.
shiden_kai - 28 Oct 2006 19:01 GMT
> Man, as I've said a thousand times over "everyone is entitled to their
> opinion, including Snoman.
>
> All points of view whether completely inane or sheer genius should be
> welcomed without ridicule in here. It is up to the individual to
> decide if any point of view has merit.

As others are saying, an "opinion" is welcome.  Just state
that it's simply "an opinion" and all will be well.  But when
you answer posts and you answer with incorrect information,
that needs to be addressed.

> To mock an individual simply for having a different aspect on
> automotive repair is lacking in good taste and is utterly demeaning.

"simply a different aspect"?  Come on, it's incorrect information...not
quite the same thing.

Ian
Bill - 29 Oct 2006 00:08 GMT
I agree with Steve...
Everyone is entitled their opinion.
If what is being told is dangerous than I would agree. With brain surgery,
but that is not what we are talking here.

I value what everyone has to say. Except flamers, and after a few of those,
I just use the "Block Sender". Why can't you use it against Snoman if you
have such a problem with what is said.

Signature

please reply to  bargerw NO @ SPAM bellsouth.net and remove the NOSPAM

> Man, as I've said a thousand times over "everyone is entitled to their
> opinion, including Snoman.
[quoted text clipped - 95 lines]
>>PS. feel free to repost this where needed
>>_________________________________________
aarcuda69062 - 29 Oct 2006 15:18 GMT
> I agree with Steve...
> Everyone is entitled their opinion.

It is my opinion that Snoman should be flamed each and every time
he posts incorrect information.
It is also my opinion that flaming his spelling errors should be
optional.

> If what is being told is dangerous than I would agree. With brain surgery,
> but that is not what we are talking here.

Why, because you can't comprehend the potential for loss of life
or property?  Since when should whether something is potentially
dangerous be restricted to brain surgery only?

> I value what everyone has to say. Except flamers, and after a few of those,
> I just use the "Block Sender". Why can't you use it against Snoman if you
> have such a problem with what is said.

If you happen to look out the window and notice your neighbors
house on fire, do you;

a) Call the fire department and report it?
b) Close the curtains and hide under the bed?
c) Stand outside and cheer the person running away with a gas can                                              
and matches?
d) Pop open a Schlitz, stand on your front porch and holler to
the firemen "git-r-done?"

Before you choose an answer, remember, house fires aren't brain
surgery.
MikeG - 30 Oct 2006 14:37 GMT
I do have SnoMan blocked, however when someone responds to his stuff, his
"comments" are still there.

> I just use the "Block Sender". Why can't you use it against Snoman if you
> have such a problem with what is said.
Skylark - 15 Nov 2006 03:13 GMT
I'd trust Snoman more than any of you. Believe me I am writing all your
names down and do not expect any help from me if that is the way you
handle this site.

Karl
ajeeperman@comcast.net - 15 Nov 2006 05:43 GMT
I also read snowman as correct more than any of you and being and old timer,
we have forgotten more than you whiners have learned.
old john

> I'd trust Snoman more than any of you. Believe me I am writing all your
> names down and do not expect any help from me if that is the way you
> handle this site.
>
> Karl
shiden_kai - 15 Nov 2006 23:06 GMT
> I'd trust Snoman more than any of you. Believe me I am writing all
> your names down and do not expect any help from me if that is the way
> you handle this site.

Oh no!  Karl won't help me!  What ever will I do?  How will
I get any answers to the mechanical questions that I pose in
these forums!?

More Snoboys coming out of the woodwork!

Ian
Marsh Monster - 18 Nov 2006 05:32 GMT
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shiden_kai wrote in message:

> Oh no!  Karl won't help me!  What ever will I do?  How will
> I get any answers to the mechanical questions that I pose in
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>
> Ian

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I know this Dealer Tech you could ask.........he's a perty smart
feller........

seems to know his stuff........

:)

~:~
marsh
~drops a mushroom in Ians coffee cup~
~:~
Marsh Monster - 15 Nov 2006 06:44 GMT
marsh sips his mushroom tea......and researches the posters
history.........
(being as he's so damd adamant about how many posts others make.....ON
TOPIC)

:)

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LMAO wrote in message:
> The abominable Snoman is a large hairy bubba like creature associated
> with the seldom snow covered regions of the Ohio between Indiana and
> Pennsylvania. He is also known as Snojob, Snoboy, idiot, and many foul
> names. One would think the sightings of the Abominable Snoman are rare
> but sadly that is not the case. The Abominable Snoman avidly makes his
> presents well known in many groups.

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any whooooooooo.............

Dear Mr. ..........

L et
M e
A lluminate
O ff topic

.........it seems........unlike Sno.......you don't post at
ALL........unless
yer try'n to start a Flame War....

gutless scumbag allias use'n weirdo freekoid momma's boy..............

jmo

but then...........

we all got one....................

DON'T WE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~:~
MarshMonster
~adamantly accepts all responsibility for his language, his posting
style........
and ANY fishbait that rots on this line~
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websurfer - 15 Nov 2006 21:36 GMT
Hey Marsh!  Wassup man, haven't seen you post in a LONG time...  I
thought maybe you went on a little vacation somewhere...  Good to see you
back.

Later

> marsh sips his mushroom tea......and researches the posters
> history.........
[quoted text clipped - 80 lines]
> J
> ~:~
Marsh Monster - 18 Nov 2006 05:37 GMT
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> Hey Marsh!  Wassup man, haven't seen you post in a LONG time...  I
> thought maybe you went on a little vacation somewhere...  Good to see you
> back.
>
> Later

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I drove into a Holdem Poker site.........truck broke down.....been
try'n to
win enough to fix it.........

3 credit cards, a bad mushroom trip, and 897 all in"s  later..........

and here I am!!

^ ^
o o
L
O

~:~
marsh
~takes a hit off his pipe.......and ponders bankruptcy~
~:~
ajeeperman@comcast.net - 18 Nov 2006 06:29 GMT
now i see why you guys are short on brains, or at least act like it.
old john

Hello, Marsh!
You wrote  on 17 Nov 2006 21:37:04 -0800:

MM> =========
MM> =========
MM> websurfer wrote:
??>> Hey Marsh!  Wassup man, haven't seen you post in a LONG time...  I
??>> thought maybe you went on a little vacation somewhere...  Good to see
??>> you back.
??>>
??>> Later
??>>
MM> =========
MM> =========

MM> I drove into a Holdem Poker site.........truck broke down.....been
MM> try'n to
MM> win enough to fix it.........

MM> 3 credit cards, a bad mushroom trip, and 897 all in"s  later..........

MM> and here I am!!

MM> ^ ^
MM> o o
MM>  L
MM>  O

With best regards, ajeeperman@comcast.net.  E-mail: ajeeperman@comcast.net
shiden_kai - 18 Nov 2006 22:56 GMT
> now i see why you guys are short on brains, or at least act like it.
> old john

Marsh is a whole lot smarter then you think.....certainly
much smarter and far more likable then a certain
"frosty".

Ian
shiden_kai - 18 Nov 2006 23:03 GMT
> now i see why you guys are short on brains, or at least act like it.
> old john

Hey....Jeep...man!  Check out this thread and tell me
how great your Snoman is.

This one:  Re: 90 suburban, 5.7 tbi; hesitation with backfire

Wow!  He's the man when it comes to correct technical
knowledge, eh?

Ian
SnoMan - 19 Nov 2006 01:30 GMT
>This one:  Re: 90 suburban, 5.7 tbi; hesitation with backfire
>
>Wow!  He's the man when it comes to correct technical
>knowledge, eh?

How many have your owned???? I own a 89 since new wise a$$ which is
same as a 90 and I know how it works because I have had it apart. You
can beleive what you want but believing does not make it so.
-----------------
TheSnoMan.com
HeatWave - 19 Nov 2006 02:39 GMT
> >This one:  Re: 90 suburban, 5.7 tbi; hesitation with backfire
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> -----------------
> TheSnoMan.com

Are you for real? Throw your 1989 Chilton manual in the trash and stop
playing with the big boys here who have had EVERY SINGLE YEAR of chevy
trucks in their bays! TBI trucks do NOT have mechanical advance
distributors in them you moron! We dont give a sh.t what your 89 had! We
are talking about a 1990! They are not the same, pull your head out of
your a.s! They had both Carbs and TBI in 89 but in 1990 they had
THROTTLE BODY INJECTION only! Thats what TBI stands for you retard. Does
your truck have TBI? NOT LIKELY! Wow not the same now is it!?!?

Now admit you are wrong and admit you are a dumbass. If you dont every
post of yours I see I am going to reply to with a link to this thread!
Every thread you screw up on from here on out will be added to the list!
ENJOY!
aarcuda69062 - 19 Nov 2006 03:06 GMT
> >This one:  Re: 90 suburban, 5.7 tbi; hesitation with backfire
> >
> >Wow!  He's the man when it comes to correct technical
> >knowledge, eh?
>
> How many have your owned????

Irrelevant.

> I own a 89 since new wise a$$ which is
> same as a 90 and I know how it works because I have had it apart.

Oh, you've had it apart.  That explains it!
You couldn't get it running again so you shitcanned the EFI,
slapped a carburetor and mechanical distributor in it to get it
running but forgot to mention those subtle details.

> You
> can beleive what you want but believing does not make it so.

Anyone (even you) can find a picture of a TBI distributor online
and clearly see that there is no mechanical advance provision in
that distributor.
Here's one from NAPA online
<http://partimages2.genpt.com/partimages/82078.jpg>
Denny - 19 Nov 2006 13:14 GMT
>> >This one:  Re: 90 suburban, 5.7 tbi; hesitation with backfire
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Here's one from NAPA online
> <http://partimages2.genpt.com/partimages/82078.jpg>

Glad to see you guys are having fun with the SnowIdiot...  He doesn't come
over to play with us in the Dodge truck group any more. It was entertaining
there for awhile...   Have fun!!

Denny
shiden_kai - 15 Nov 2006 23:07 GMT
> .........it seems........unlike Sno.......you don't post at
> ALL........unless
> yer try'n to start a Flame War....

Oh geez.....please don't tell me that "you're" a
Snoboy too...Marsh!

Ian
Marsh Monster - 19 Nov 2006 17:32 GMT
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> Oh geez.....please don't tell me that "you're" a
> Snoboy too...Marsh!
>
> Ian

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I kinda look at this way.........

there's guys at work that don't know what they're do'n............

but .......
they're still nice guys....and sometimes.......

THEY.......buy lunch.

:)

~:~
marsh
~sips his crown n coke.......wonders who's gonna need to borrow a tool
tommorrow~
~:~
shiden_kai - 19 Nov 2006 19:27 GMT
> I kinda look at this way.........
> there's guys at work that don't know what they're do'n............
> but .......
> they're still nice guys....and sometimes.......
> THEY.......buy lunch.

And so they should....no doubt they are in your
bay every job asking "how do I do this".

It's the least they can do for you.

Ian
Marsh Monster - 19 Nov 2006 17:54 GMT
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> The abominable Snoman is a large hairy bubba like creature associated
> with the seldom snow covered regions of the Ohio between Indiana and
................
...........................<<yak yak yak>>........

<SNIPPED for impotence of content>>

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  I know this technician that has problems at times with the quality
of his work
and at times has what we consider "redo's", "comebacks", "cb's", or
otherwise
known as fk up.
   Anywhoo....this dude goes through life everyday do'n his job,
repair'n autos,
as he's done for almost 20 years now. (not me, i've got over 30 in :O
).  Anywhooo,
most of what he works on...and we'll jest say 99%, works out well for
him.  He does
his repair, the vehical leaves, the customer is happy, the price was
fair, all is well
with the world.
 However, on occasion one of these fk ups comes in.  He spends a
couple hours
pulling his hair, spittting, stomping the floor, then jumps in, tears
everything apart,
and eventually.......lol.......hours, days, weeks,
months....later.....finds the root
cause of the problematic fk up.
 Sometimes he attributes it to short cutting, distraction, bad parts,
the boss, etc..

BUT..........he DOES git the fk up repaired, tends to learn something
in the process
that may help him in the NEXT 20 years.    :)

Now...........
HERE"S.........what makes this dude worth the $60,000 + a year that
he's been
making for YEARS!!

 Every onced and a whilst.....
we'll git a vehical in that everyone in the shop jumps on to figure
out, jest cuz the
symptom is so weird, 10 other shops couldn't fix it, the customer will
think the
ONE that finally figures it out is a genious, the boss will git off
that guys assk for
a day or two, and other wise.........to gain a few BRAGGING rites
during lunch,
around the coffee pot, out back of the shop, in toilet, at the bar, or
.....jest so's
when we go home and the ole lady jumps our sheeeet.....we can at least
be
justified in knowing that we CAN do our jobs.
 Anywhoooo.......when one of these perplexed, overdiagnosed, can't be
fixed,
vehicals come in the shop.....I'll back away, let everyone jump in, and
wait.

because..........

I git this overwhelming since of fk you when my buddy let's them all
spend 3 days
on it........walks over.......plugs in a vac line, tightens a bolt,
kicks a fender, blows
boogers in the intake, pisses down the throttle body, or otherwise take
some
mundane action..........and FIXES.......it.

almost..........EVERYTIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

no if's, no ands, no buts.

jest...........20 years of spit'n, piss'n,
kick'n........and.............

comebacks.

it please's me to see him work.........

he's my buddy................................................
he's got his faults....................

i've got mine.......

and.........

even the Abominal Snowman..........
was misunderstood at first.

~:~
MarshMonster
~sips his mushroom tea...........wonders why the OP didn't bite on his
first baited line.........
pours a crown n coke..............for his buddy Sno~
~:~
 
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