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Car Forum / Chevrolet / Chevrolet Trucks / November 2006

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95 GMC Sirerra 4X4 Inconsistent brake pedal

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TomC - 04 Nov 2006 17:31 GMT
Bought the truck used with 155,000miles. The brake pads were replaced all
around. Brake hardware on rear was replaced and drums turned. Master
cylinder was replaced. ABS module was replaced. System bled several times.
I continue to experience inconsistent brake pedal. Sometimes the pedal has
very little travel and other times it goes halfway to the floor. No lights
on panel suggesting a problem with the system. Sometimes I get a feeling
that something is out of round beacuse I detect a wobble/hop when braking,
but that doesn't happen all the time either. All wheels/tires are tight.
Need suggestions as to the cause/fix. TIA.
TomC
diablo - 05 Nov 2006 13:29 GMT
> Bought the truck used with 155,000miles. The brake pads were replaced all
> around. Brake hardware on rear was replaced and drums turned. Master
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> Need suggestions as to the cause/fix. TIA.
> TomC

Could be that the rear drums were turned past they're maximum diameter, and
are a little out of round because of this.

Brian
TomC - 05 Nov 2006 14:27 GMT
diablo <nomail@spam.not> wrote in article
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> > Bought the truck used with 155,000miles. The brake pads were replaced all
> > around. Brake hardware on rear was replaced and drums turned. Master
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>
> Brian

Rear drums were turned at a parts/machine shop because they were out of
round; plenty of metal left; but, thanks for the input.
TomC
89GMC - 06 Nov 2006 14:15 GMT
I had a somewhat similar problem on my truck not quite as severe, but
have you made sure your rear brakes are adjusted properly?  When I
first looked at mine, there was literally a 1/4" btwn the shoe and the
drum.

Do you have hydroboost or vacuum brakes?  If hydroboost make sure you
have enough power steering fluid. Have you had any power steering
issues at the same time?

> diablo <nomail@spam.not> wrote in article
> <XtednQAX1dDNetDYnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.com>...
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> round; plenty of metal left; but, thanks for the input.
> TomC
TomC - 06 Nov 2006 14:31 GMT
89GMC <dziarcak@gmail.com> wrote in article
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> I had a somewhat similar problem on my truck not quite as severe, but
> have you made sure your rear brakes are adjusted properly?  When I
> first looked at mine, there was literally a 1/4" btwn the shoe and the
> drum.

When I replaced the rear hardware, I adusted the shoes as close as
possible. Once the drums are on, there's no access to the adjuster (Weird
setup); so, I have to rely on the self-adjuster to tighten them up.
I recently had the truck inspected (Pa.) and the mechanic adjusted the
parking brake for some unkown reason. Seems like there's more free play in
that now, but I don't think it should affect normal braking.

> Do you have hydroboost or vacuum brakes?  If hydroboost make sure you
> have enough power steering fluid. Have you had any power steering
> issues at the same time?

Vacuum brakes. They're kind of hissy when applying the brakes. Normal??
TomC

> diablo <nomail@spam.not> wrote in article
> <XtednQAX1dDNetDYnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.com>...
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> round; plenty of metal left; but, thanks for the input.
> TomC
Nonya Beez - 07 Nov 2006 01:50 GMT
> 89GMC <dziarcak@gmail.com> wrote in article
> <1162822524.323844.180970@h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>...
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>> round; plenty of metal left; but, thanks for the input.
>> TomC

Sometimes when I encounter this problem I am able to 'cure' it by making
several ABS assisted stops. You can do this on a wet road or better yet on a
dirt road. get some speed up and slam the brakes on till you stop, oh, make
sure you take all of the potential flying objects out of the truck :-0!
Seems that some gunk can get caughtup in the  valves and what not. Some
trucks take more than 20 ABS assisted stops to 'fix'.
TomC - 07 Nov 2006 23:13 GMT
> Sometimes when I encounter this problem I am able to 'cure' it by making
> several ABS assisted stops. You can do this on a wet road or better yet on a
> dirt road. get some speed up and slam the brakes on till you stop, oh, make
> sure you take all of the potential flying objects out of the truck :-0!
> Seems that some gunk can get caughtup in the  valves and what not. Some
> trucks take more than 20 ABS assisted stops to 'fix'.

Yes, I did that last winter on the ice. I understood that to be a fix to
get air out of the ABS system. Worked for awhile but, it didn't last. :-(
 
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