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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / September 2004

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How do you reach rear spark plugs on a 3.8liter Chrysler VAN?

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cotton - 01 Sep 2004 20:30 GMT
Can anyone help? What do I need to remove to reach rear plugs. I don't
what Chrysler engineers were thinking on this one! Thanks
jdoe - 01 Sep 2004 20:59 GMT
THere are 2 methods. 1. go from the bottom, 2. r&r the intake plenum. (keep
in mind if you go that route do the VC gaskets at the same time). On the #1
method if you have a 96-2000 with rear a/c you have to move the alternator
too. I've done both and prefer to r&r th plenum.
Larry
> Can anyone help? What do I need to remove to reach rear plugs. I don't
> what Chrysler engineers were thinking on this one! Thanks
Bob Shuman - 01 Sep 2004 22:09 GMT
I've gotten to them on my 1999 3.8L without taking off the intake plenum.  I
won't say it was easy, but it can be done if you have the patience.  4 of
the plus are pretty easy.  The last two are a PITA.  One of the rear can be
gotten by removing only the alternator bracket (you do not need to take off
the alternator off -  I say this from experience on a vehicle that was
equipped with rear A/C).  The last one was from under the vehicle and took
about an hour for that one alone.  Given the difficulty and the fact that
you are likely to rip the connector off the wires, you should plan on
replacing the wires as well.  I used a variety of tools to get at them
including 3/8 ratchet, spark plug socket, various length extenders and a
universal swivel.

Good luck!

  Bob

> THere are 2 methods. 1. go from the bottom, 2. r&r the intake plenum. (keep
> in mind if you go that route do the VC gaskets at the same time). On the #1
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> > Can anyone help? What do I need to remove to reach rear plugs. I don't
> > what Chrysler engineers were thinking on this one! Thanks
jdoe - 02 Sep 2004 00:17 GMT
You gotta have some right skinny arms there. And loooooong too. ;-) Getting
the plenum off is really very easy. Lots easier than trying to snake around
all over the back of the motor etc. BTW Alt. doesn't need to come "off" just
moved back is all (if you don't r&r the plenum. Besides by the time you rack
up 100k plus it's probably not a bad idea to get the vc gaskets anyway.
Larry
> I've gotten to them on my 1999 3.8L without taking off the intake plenum.  I
> won't say it was easy, but it can be done if you have the patience.  4 of
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> > > Can anyone help? What do I need to remove to reach rear plugs. I don't
> > > what Chrysler engineers were thinking on this one! Thanks
Bob Shuman - 02 Sep 2004 14:51 GMT
As to having skinny arms, I don't think they are "large" or "heavy", but I'd
like to think they are about average/normal for a middle aged male!  (I'm
5'11" tall and weigh about 185 pounds).

I think that because I jack up and support the frame of the vehicle and not
lift from the wheels/axle/engine, that the spacing at the rear exhaust area
opens up quite a bit.  As I recall, the driver side plug was extremely easy
to access using a simple ratchet, extension, and socket.  The other two
rears were the problem.  As I said, I got at the one from the top by
removing the upper alternator bracket (2 easily accessible bolts IIRC).
Since the alternator is secured by a bottom mount bolt, it did not move and
I did not even remove the alternator belt.  The plug was accessible from the
top with the bracket removed.

As to only needing to do this at 100K miles intervals, I was not so lucky.
My 1999 3.8L T&C Limited developed a rough idle at about 45K miles.  Since I
was a previous owner of a 3.3L Grand Caravan, I first tried using a bottle
of Techron in the tank, followed by replacing the fuel filter, air filter,
and cleaning the throttle body, but none of these solved the problem.  As a
last resort, I changed the plugs and wires and it smoothed right out and we
haven't seen the problem in the nearly 18K miles we've driven it since then.
I don't know if the problem was the plugs or the wires and frankly I don't
care since the effort involved to do either dictates doing both in my book.

I hope this helps explain how I was able to get to the rear plugs so others
may benefit from my experience.

Bob

> You gotta have some right skinny arms there. And loooooong too. ;-) Getting
> the plenum off is really very easy. Lots easier than trying to snake around
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> > Good luck!
> >    Bob
cotton - 03 Sep 2004 00:19 GMT
 Four down, two to go. The front three plugs and wires took about ten
minutes. The driver side rear plug about an hour. THe other two are going
to be hell I know it, especially the rear middle. I'll have to up my life
insurance to get to the middle one! I thought about bringing it to
Chrysler but after spending six bills last week for my Durango, I don't
think so! Can anyone tell me the best way to get at the middle rear plug
without taking off the plenum and risking life and limb underneath?
I gave up being a contortionist in my late teens!

RPhillips47 - 02 Sep 2004 07:07 GMT
>THere are 2 methods. 1. go from the bottom, 2. r&r the intake plenum.

There are actually 3 - and I chose #3!

RP
Nomen Nescio - 01 Sep 2004 21:30 GMT
I don't know how and I'm an expert mechanic.  Maybe you do it from below or
behind and use a bent tool or a rubber hose extension.

Next time, take a look under the hood.  If you cant see the plugs, starter,
battery, generator, steering gear, water pump and anything else you might
want to R & R someday, don't buy it.

Vans should have a conventional hood sort of like '20s buses. Then you can
service them like ordinary trucks instead of being a bottom instead of a
top.
Dax1295 - 07 Sep 2004 00:26 GMT
It's a tight squeeze however all except #1 can be reached fom the top.  #1
(pass.side ) needs to have the alternator out of the way.  Dissconnect battery,
drop 2 bolts on alternator and leave the alternator wired.
 
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