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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / September 2004

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83 Chrysler with 2.6 mitsubishi engine- chain noise

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louis heylen - 23 Sep 2004 22:43 GMT
I have a 83 chrysler T&C with 2.6 Mitsubishi engine.  I bought the car
new, exported the car to Europe 5 years later and used it ever since
(as a second car).  The car has driven more than 150.000 miles without
problem, until a few days ago.  First a small rattling noise (timing
chain??), the next day engine warning light on (after cold start
indicating probably oil pump failure?)
This car, although common in the US, is a one of a kind in Europe.
Hence my attempt to keep it running for another 20+ years.  No dealer
or repair shop in Belgium has ever seen an engine like this.  So I'm
on my own to repair this myself (with the help of a friend of mine).
I have a Chilton repair manual (not very helpful for this), but no
detailed factory repair manual.
Can anyone help me with more detailed info on the timing chain or oil
pump chain?  How to replace it?  Would replacement of chain guides
only be sufficient? How to get access?  Are there some shortcuts or
pitfalls?  Pictures?  Schematics?
I've been trying to locate a factory service manual on ebay, but this
would take 2-3 weeks to receive it in Belgium.
Can anyone help me with a digital copy of relevant pages of factory
manual on timing chain and oil pump change?
If anyone could help me with this, I would really appreciate this.
Thanks
mic canic - 24 Sep 2004 01:44 GMT
the best way to change the chain if it is still availble from d.c is to
drop the motor and trans out the bottom

> I have a 83 chrysler T&C with 2.6 Mitsubishi engine.  I bought the car
> new, exported the car to Europe 5 years later and used it ever since
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> If anyone could help me with this, I would really appreciate this.
> Thanks
louis heylen - 25 Sep 2004 17:01 GMT
Thanks everybody.  This group is quite something.  I never expected
this outstanding support and help.  Thanks.  I started to strip the
engine and found the balancing shaft chain (the one that seems to
drive the oil pump??) to be broken.  Timing chain seems not too bad,
although... .  I now need to order the parts (chain,tensioners,... and
gaskets.  I found a few suppliers in the US, all selling different
brands (sealed power,melling, clevite,...).  Any recommendations?  I
don't want to do this twice and intend only to go for the best?
Also; Any suggestions on what else not to forget, while I'm in there?
regards
Daniel J. Stern - 25 Sep 2004 17:40 GMT
> Thanks everybody.  This group is quite something.  I never expected this
> outstanding support and help.  Thanks.  I started to strip the engine
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> a few suppliers in the US, all selling different brands (sealed
> power,melling, clevite,...).  Any recommendations?

Sealed Power, Perfect Circle, Melling, Clevite, TRW, Cloyes all sell
excellent internal parts. In all likelihood, only one company produces the
parts for the Mitsu 2.6 engine and it is simply bought into the product
lines of the others -- this engine is widely regarded in North America as
a poorly-engineered junkbox not worth rebuilding or repairing, and parts
demand is low.

Fel-Pro and Victor-Reinz make good gaskets.

DS
nospam.clare.nce@snyder.on.ca - 25 Sep 2004 18:47 GMT
>Thanks everybody.  This group is quite something.  I never expected
>this outstanding support and help.  Thanks.  I started to strip the
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Also; Any suggestions on what else not to forget, while I'm in there?
>regards

You DEFINITELY want to check the balance shafts, which are also driven
by the Oil Pump chain. Having them tighten up makes short work of the
chain.. There are mods to be made to the oiling of the rear bearings
on the countershafts.
 
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