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Michelin HydroEdge on 99 Cirrus LXi - Good Idea?

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Gregory N. Latiak - 06 Oct 2004 04:00 GMT
Anyone have experience with Michelin HydroEdge tires on a Cirrus or Stratus?
Am contemplating these to replace the factory MX4s that are getting close to
the end. Interested in snow, rain and road/tire noise issues in particular
as I live/work in southern ontario, canada.

thanks,

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Steve Driska - 07 Oct 2004 05:13 GMT
> Anyone have experience with Michelin HydroEdge tires on a Cirrus or Stratus?
> Am contemplating these to replace the factory MX4s that are getting close to
> the end. Interested in snow, rain and road/tire noise issues in particular
> as I live/work in southern ontario, canada.
>
> thanks,

No experience with that tire.  I asked the tire guy I trust for a
recommendation to replace the MX4's on my stratus.  He said the MX4 has a
reputation for losing it's wet traction in the last half of the tire
life.  I think I see what he means.
He was recommending a Bridgestone but I forgot the model.

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Art - 08 Oct 2004 02:29 GMT
> > Anyone have experience with Michelin HydroEdge tires on a Cirrus or Stratus?
> > Am contemplating these to replace the factory MX4s that are getting close to
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> life.  I think I see what he means.
> He was recommending a Bridgestone but I forgot the model.

Most tires do according to Consumer Reports.  Tires should be dumped much
earlier than is legally required.
Arthur Alspector - 08 Oct 2004 04:14 GMT
I have a set of Hydroedge tires on my 99 Intrepid, and although I find they
give me a very secure ride, I think they have an issue with going out of
balance frequently.  I was told by a tire dealer (although Michelin thinks
he's nuts), that the tires should be re-balanced every other rotation or
20,000 km.  Well, Michelin thinks it's nuts, but I had to have the front two
re-balanced after the last rotation with less than 8,000 km on them.  I'm
not sure how good they are in snow because I bought them last spring in dry
weather, but I do know they are very good on wet pavement.  I live in
southern Ontario and I feel that these tires will do very well in city
conditions, but would be inadequate anywhere north of Toronto after a snow.
They are definitely not snow tires.

>> > Anyone have experience with Michelin HydroEdge tires on a Cirrus or
> Stratus?
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> Most tires do according to Consumer Reports.  Tires should be dumped much
> earlier than is legally required.
Matt Whiting - 08 Oct 2004 11:46 GMT
>>>Anyone have experience with Michelin HydroEdge tires on a Cirrus or
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> Most tires do according to Consumer Reports.  Tires should be dumped much
> earlier than is legally required.

I disagree.  The performance of a tire changes through-out its life and
you simply need to be aware of that and accomdate it.  Dry, hard surface
traction is typically better after at least half of the tread is gone
whereas wet weather traction gets worse with wear typically.  If you
want optimum performance, you will have 50% of the tread shaved off your
new tires, drive them 5,000 miles and then get a new set.  Most of us
can't afford that, so we simply adjust our driving style as the tires
wear and don't try to drive 90 MPH in standing water with 3/32" of tread
left.  I routinely run my tires to the wear bars with no problems.

Matt
Richard - 08 Oct 2004 20:39 GMT
I have a set on my 04 Limited Town & Country and recommend them highly. No
balance issue at all. Far superior to the junk Bridgestone's Chrysler now
fits to those vehicles. Also look at the Goodyear Triple Tread; new on the
market this year.

Richard.
Dan - 23 Oct 2004 21:59 GMT
Also look at the Goodyear Triple Tread; new on the
> market this year.
>
> Richard.

Another great 3 in 1 product that can't do any of the 3.  Winter tires
are winter tires, and summer tires are summer tires.
Richard - 23 Oct 2004 22:20 GMT
> Also look at the Goodyear Triple Tread; new on the
>> market this year.
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> Another great 3 in 1 product that can't do any of the 3.  Winter tires
> are winter tires, and summer tires are summer tires.

And the basis for your statement (on products you have not used) is what?

Richard.
Dan - 25 Oct 2004 03:19 GMT
> And the basis for your statement (on products you have not used) is what?
>
> Richard.

All season tires.
Richard - 25 Oct 2004 11:51 GMT
>> And the basis for your statement (on products you have not used) is what?
>>
>> Richard.
>
> All season tires.

I agree that summer tires don't work in the cold. Example, Michelin's MXV
would not go in the snow.

Real snow tires are best in snow and ice, especially for the first 10,000
miles or so of tread life.

But Goodyear and Michelin now have long wearing all season tires that seem
to do it all. I had good experience with the Hydroedge  tires last winter in
upstate NY. They were at least as good as my now 4/32 Michelin snow tires.
Not all season tires are worth their salt on snow and ice.

Richard.
Dan - 26 Oct 2004 22:56 GMT
> I agree that summer tires don't work in the cold. Example, Michelin's MXV
> would not go in the snow.
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>
> Richard.

Yeah, my summer tires are shot so I will be buying a new set come
spring.  I  am lookng at the Hydroedge.  Where I live we have -30 and
colder temps in the winter.  So a soft compound tire make a huge
difference.
Richard - 27 Oct 2004 01:29 GMT
>> I agree that summer tires don't work in the cold. Example, Michelin's MXV
>> would not go in the snow.
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> colder temps in the winter.  So a soft compound tire make a huge
> difference.

To tell you the truth, I love the Hydroedge tire, but intend to stick new
snows on the van for the winter because perhaps once or twice this winter I
expect they will make a big difference. It can get very rough here in the
north country of  NYS.

Richard.
Dan - 28 Oct 2004 02:45 GMT
To tell you the truth, I love the Hydroedge tire, but intend to stick new
> snows on the van for the winter because perhaps once or twice this winter I
> expect they will make a big difference. It can get very rough here in the
> north country of  NYS.
>
> Richard.

For sure, better on the road than in the ditch.
 
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