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Why won't any antifreeze work?
Bill Putney - 15 Oct 2004 00:14 GMT
> Why won't any antifreeze work?
Any will work - for a while. The OAT-type (DexCool™/Prestone Extended
Life™) was supposed to be better than the green stuff - no phosphates
and no silicates.
Back in the 80's, the Japanese mfgrs. (Toyota, Subaru, maybe Honda) sold
there own antifreezes in the dealerships - claimed that you would have
problems if you used regular American green stuff. People thought it
was a gimmick at over $10 a gallon. However, the tubes in the Japanese
radiators were very small, and they definitely would clog up with green
antifreeze - American car radiator tubes were a lot fatter and weren't
so badly affected by a small buildup. From hangin out on Subaru forums,
and having owned one for several years, I can tell you that there
actually was something to the Toyota/Subaru claims. If you used green
antifreeze in your Subaru, you were guaranteed to need a new radiator by
150k miles.
People appear to have had some problems with the OAT type - some solders
apparently don't hold up well, and there can be corrosion problems in
the system. Then someone figured out that a little silicate will solve
those problems, so the G-05 was developed. I don't know if there are
other major chemical differences.
Here's an interesting article:
http://www.valvoline.com/downloads/DTurcotte_Mag_53_g.pdf
apparently written by a Valvoline/Zerex guy for a trade magazine.
Bill Putney
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adddress with the letter 'x')
Daniel J. Stern - 15 Oct 2004 01:01 GMT
> >>>>My book for my PT and Town & Country lists something like a G-02 type.
> >>>G-O5. You can get it at a well-stocked parts store.
> >> You miss my point. What stuff at the Chrysler dealer is G-O5 since their
> >> stuff does not carry that label?
> > The Mopar 5/100 type should be the right stuff. You should see "MS6769"
> > referenced somewhere on the container.
> Why won't any antifreeze work?
Because "any antifreeze" isn't the correct fluid. G-O5 is. Next stupid
question?
Richard - 15 Oct 2004 13:51 GMT
>> >>>>My book for my PT and Town & Country lists something like a G-02
>> >>>>type.
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> Because "any antifreeze" isn't the correct fluid. G-O5 is. Next stupid
> question?
And you would think Chrysler would make it easy to find G-O5 type
anti-freeze, but noooo. They don't make any reference to it and the guys in
the parts departments have no information on G-O5, just Chrysler part
numbers for various anti-freeze products.
Richard.
Daniel J. Stern - 15 Oct 2004 20:43 GMT
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> And you would think Chrysler would make it easy to find G-O5 type
> anti-freeze
Why fart around asking for it from Chrysler? It's right on the shelf at
most every auto parts outlet. Hell, even Canadian Tire has it!
Ted Mittelstaedt - 17 Oct 2004 12:47 GMT
> And you would think Chrysler would make it easy to find G-O5 type
> anti-freeze, but noooo. They don't make any reference to it and the guys in
> the parts departments have no information on G-O5,
Why should they? It's the responsibility of the aftermarket parts
manufacturers
to determine compatibility with their products and your vehicle. It is not
the factory's responsibility to produce a cross reference to everyone elses'
part numbers.
If I buy a new burner for my electric stove that comes from FSP, I am
certainly not going to find the FSP number out by calling Amana.
Ted