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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / October 2004

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Antifreeze?

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Richard - 14 Oct 2004 16:12 GMT
My book for my PT and Town & Country lists something like a G-02 type. But
the Chrysler only sells a 3 year and 5 year without any such type ID. Just
what is the recommended product at the Chrysler dealer?

Richard.
Daniel J. Stern - 14 Oct 2004 17:11 GMT
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> My book for my PT and Town & Country lists something like a G-02 type. But
> the Chrysler only sells a 3 year and 5 year without any such type ID. Just
> what is the recommended product at the Chrysler dealer?

G-O5. You can get it at a well-stocked parts store.
Richard - 14 Oct 2004 19:42 GMT
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> G-O5. You can get it at a well-stocked parts store.

You miss my point. What stuff at the Chrysler dealer is G-O5 since their
stuff does not carry that label?

Richard.
jdoe - 14 Oct 2004 20:37 GMT
If it's mopar "branded" than it should be fine.
Larry

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> Richard.
Bill Putney - 14 Oct 2004 23:09 GMT
>>On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, it was written:
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> Richard.

The Mopar 5/100 type should be the right stuff.  You should see "MS6769"
referenced somewhere on the container.

In the aftermarket, you will need to find it in Zerex brand - but make
sure it has the G-05 reference.  If it's Zerex brand and does not say
G-05 on it (prominently on the front of the container), it's not the
right type.  Not every auto parts store carries it, but enough do that
you should be able to find it.  Some carry Zerex, but not every type
that Zerex makes - so, again - look for the G-05.

Also, you can go to a Ford dealer and ask for their WSS-M97B51-A1.  Be
aware that, believe it or not, the color of what you get from Chrysler
will be orange, from Ford will be yellow - same thing chemically - Ford
just has theirs dyed yellow, Chrysler...orange.  Go figure!

Bill Putney
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Why won't any antifreeze work?
Bill Putney - 15 Oct 2004 00:14 GMT
> Why won't any antifreeze work?

Any will work - for a while.  The OAT-type (DexCool™/Prestone Extended
Life™) was supposed to be better than the green stuff - no phosphates
and no silicates.

Back in the 80's, the Japanese mfgrs. (Toyota, Subaru, maybe Honda) sold
there own antifreezes in the dealerships - claimed that you would have
problems if you used regular American green stuff.  People thought it
was a gimmick at over $10 a gallon.  However, the tubes in the Japanese
radiators were very small, and they definitely would clog up with green
antifreeze - American car radiator tubes were a lot fatter and weren't
so badly affected by a small buildup.  From hangin out on Subaru forums,
and having owned one for several years, I can tell you that there
actually was something to the Toyota/Subaru claims.  If you used green
antifreeze in your Subaru, you were guaranteed to need a new radiator by
150k miles.

People appear to have had some problems with the OAT type - some solders
apparently don't hold up well, and there can be corrosion problems in
the system.  Then someone figured out that a little silicate will solve
those problems, so the G-05 was developed.  I don't know if there are
other major chemical differences.

Here's an interesting article:
http://www.valvoline.com/downloads/DTurcotte_Mag_53_g.pdf
apparently written by a Valvoline/Zerex guy for a trade magazine.

Bill Putney
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Daniel J. Stern - 15 Oct 2004 01:01 GMT
> >>>>My book for my PT and Town & Country lists something like a G-02 type.

> >>>G-O5. You can get it at a well-stocked parts store.

> >> You miss my point. What stuff at the Chrysler dealer is G-O5 since their
> >> stuff does not carry that label?

> > The Mopar 5/100 type should be the right stuff.  You should see "MS6769"
> > referenced somewhere on the container.

> Why won't any antifreeze work?

Because "any antifreeze" isn't the correct fluid. G-O5 is. Next stupid
question?
Richard - 15 Oct 2004 13:51 GMT
>> >>>>My book for my PT and Town & Country lists something like a G-02
>> >>>>type.
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> Because "any antifreeze" isn't the correct fluid. G-O5 is. Next stupid
> question?

And you would think Chrysler would make it easy to find G-O5 type
anti-freeze, but noooo. They don't make any reference to it and the guys in
the parts departments have no information on G-O5, just Chrysler part
numbers for various anti-freeze products.

Richard.
Daniel J. Stern - 15 Oct 2004 20:43 GMT
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> And you would think Chrysler would make it easy to find G-O5 type
> anti-freeze

Why fart around asking for it from Chrysler? It's right on the shelf at
most every auto parts outlet. Hell, even Canadian Tire has it!
Ted Mittelstaedt - 17 Oct 2004 12:47 GMT
> And you would think Chrysler would make it easy to find G-O5 type
> anti-freeze, but noooo. They don't make any reference to it and the guys in
> the parts departments have no information on G-O5,

Why should they?  It's the responsibility of the aftermarket parts
manufacturers
to determine compatibility with their products and your vehicle.  It is not
the factory's responsibility to produce a cross reference to everyone elses'
part numbers.

If I buy a new burner for my electric stove that comes from FSP, I am
certainly not going to find the FSP number out by calling Amana.

Ted
Bob - 16 Oct 2004 17:40 GMT
Just go to Auto Zone. They have it.
> My book for my PT and Town & Country lists something like a G-02 type. But
> the Chrysler only sells a 3 year and 5 year without any such type ID. Just
> what is the recommended product at the Chrysler dealer?
>
> Richard.
Bill Putney - 17 Oct 2004 15:41 GMT
> Just go to Auto Zone. They have it.
>
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>>
>>Richard.

But he would need to know the G-05 designation and that it's only
available aftermarket from Zerex - otherwise, they're liable to sell him
anything they have on the shelf that has "Chrysler" mentioned anywhere
on the label (that's best case).

Bill Putney
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