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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / October 2004

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James C. Reeves - 19 Oct 2004 22:58 GMT
The HLDI released it's list of cars based on how likely they are to be stolen.
Among the top 5 are two Cadillac SUX/XUV models and the Nissan Maxima, which I
guess makes some sense.  The Cadillac's have expensive wheels and are often
recovered without the wheels and the Maxims has the HID headlamps that are a
perfect fit to the older Maximas.  But also on the list are the Dodge
Stratus/Chrysler Sebring (same basic car).  What is so special about those that
thieves are interested in?
James C. Reeves - 19 Oct 2004 23:54 GMT
| The HLDI released it's list of cars based on how likely they are to be stolen.
| Among the top 5 are two Cadillac SUX/XUV models and the Nissan Maxima, which I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
| Stratus/Chrysler Sebring (same basic car).  What is so special about those that
| thieves are interested in?

Here is the link to more information...

http://www.carsafety.org/news_releases/2004/pr101904.htm
Scott en Aztl?n - 20 Oct 2004 05:41 GMT
>Here is the link to more information...
>
>http://www.carsafety.org/news_releases/2004/pr101904.htm

LOL!!!

Why is it no surprise that a Saturn is at the BOTTOM of the list?

Nobody even wants to STEAL a Saturn!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!

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Dave Stone - 20 Oct 2004 06:23 GMT
> >Here is the link to more information...
> >
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>
> Nobody even wants to STEAL a Saturn!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!

Saturns were getting stolen like crazy near where I live, well for a period
of about 2 weeks or so. I thought I read that the 95 SL was near the top of
the theft list according to one report this past year..but I could be wrong.

http://www.detnow.com/wxyz/nw_local_news/article/0,2132,WXYZ_15924_3231530,00.html
Scott en Aztl?n - 20 Oct 2004 15:00 GMT
>Saturns were getting stolen like crazy near where I live, well for a period
>of about 2 weeks or so. I thought I read that the 95 SL was near the top of
>the theft list according to one report this past year..but I could be wrong.

I read the article; seems they were trivially easy to steal with some
kind of special device. But once the novelty wore off, even those
thefts stopped after only two weeks - probably no market for them, and
they are too boring for a joy ride. :)

>http://www.detnow.com/wxyz/nw_local_news/article/0,2132,WXYZ_15924_3231530,00.html

According to police, there is word on the street on how to steal
Saturns.

"Under normal circumstance," Sheriff Minzey continued, "the past
practice was to punch in the ignition, or pull it and try to figure
out how to bypass the ignition that's in there. They have figured out
how to take some type of device, and just stick it into the ignition,
and make the vehicle start and operate."

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Bill 2 - 21 Oct 2004 03:21 GMT
> >Saturns were getting stolen like crazy near where I live, well for a period
> >of about 2 weeks or so. I thought I read that the 95 SL was near the top of
> >the theft list according to one report this past year..but I could be wrong.
>
> I read the article; seems they were trivially easy to steal with some
> kind of special device.

"Skeleton key"? You can buy those off the internet for several makes. Easy
to unlock / start a car, and no damage done to the vehicle. It is cut on a
normal key so you can get copies made at any key cutting kiosk.

> But once the novelty wore off, even those
> thefts stopped after only two weeks - probably no market for them, and
> they are too boring for a joy ride. :)

Plymouth Acclaims are still frequently stolen around here (joyrides /
getaway vehicles). Just the other day someone driving a stolen Labaron hit
another car and killed the driver. It was the 20th time this teen stole a
car this year. Chances are a good number were Chryslers, because once a
joyrider learns how to steal a certain type of car, they will continue to do
so.

Oh, and as for our quality legal system. Two days prior to this recent
incident he was released from custody on another charge, even though the
parents were begging to have their son kept in the slammer, and he has a
looooooooooooooooooong record.

Today he was released under house-arrest on another charge.

Do they not get it? He will continue to commit crimes. Even after he has
killed someone, the public isn't being protected from him.

> "Under normal circumstance," Sheriff Minzey continued, "the past
> practice was to punch in the ignition, or pull it and try to figure
> out how to bypass the ignition that's in there.

One can use a pair of pliers. At least that's how the Chryslers work.
Andrew Szafran - 20 Oct 2004 14:38 GMT
In rec.autos.driving Scott en Aztlan <slothkills@noyahoospam.com> wrote:
> Nobody even wants to STEAL a Saturn!!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!

Although, if rumors are true, Saturn is coming out with a coupe and
possibly a sedan based on the Kappa space-frame RWD platform in 2006.  In
which case, I might want to stea^W buy one.

-Andrew
Daniel J. Stern - 20 Oct 2004 01:03 GMT
> The HLDI released it's list of cars based on how likely they are to be
> stolen.  Among the top 5 are two Cadillac SUX/XUV models and the Nissan
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> the list are the Dodge Stratus/Chrysler Sebring (same basic car).  What
> is so special about those that thieves are interested in?

Parts. Those spots on the list used to be occupied by Olds Cutlasses and
Chev Caprices.
Joe Bramblett, KD5NRH - 20 Oct 2004 01:58 GMT
> The HLDI released it's list of cars based on how likely they are to be
> stolen. Among the top 5 are two Cadillac SUX/XUV models and the Nissan
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> also on the list are the Dodge Stratus/Chrysler Sebring (same basic
> car).  What is so special about those that thieves are interested in?

I'd have to wonder how much the list is biased by the sorts of people who
leave the car running at the local quick stop.  One of these days, I'll
have to start watching this more closely in terms of make/model, but I see
both new and old cars running and unoccupied all the time.
223rem - 20 Oct 2004 02:07 GMT
> But also on the list are the Dodge
> Stratus/Chrysler Sebring (same basic car).  What is so special about those that
> thieves are interested in?

Two things:

1. It may be that they simply are very common cars, meaning
that they get stolen in large numbers even if the fraction
of stolen DS/CS is very small.

2. It may also be the case that the next most commonly stolen
car has a steal rate very close to that DS/CS. In other words,
there is nothing special about them.
Bill 2 - 20 Oct 2004 03:20 GMT
> The HLDI released it's list of cars based on how likely they are to be stolen.
> Among the top 5 are two Cadillac SUX/XUV models and the Nissan Maxima, which I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Stratus/Chrysler Sebring (same basic car).  What is so special about those that
> thieves are interested in?

Chrysler has traditionally had easily defeatable ignition systems making
them really easy to steal. Good for joyriders. Especially early 90's
Chryslers, but they're started to get less common. I'd estimate 50% of
Acclaims / Sundances / Voyagers owners use "The Club" because of this.
Jeff Falkiner - 20 Oct 2004 03:58 GMT
"Bill 2" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message news:NXjdd.150757>
> Chrysler has traditionally had easily defeatable ignition systems making
> them really easy to steal. Good for joyriders. Especially early 90's
> Chryslers, but they're started to get less common. I'd estimate 50% of
> Acclaims / Sundances / Voyagers owners use "The Club" because of this.

But our new 2004 Sebring has the *&^#   $70 key, so I think it would be
harder to steal.

Jeff Falkiner
Bill 2 - 20 Oct 2004 13:06 GMT
> "Bill 2" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message news:NXjdd.150757>
> > Chrysler has traditionally had easily defeatable ignition systems making
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> But our new 2004 Sebring has the *&^#   $70 key, so I think it would be
> harder to steal.

Yes, but a lot of older Statuses don't have a SKIM key, so all you need to
steal it is a screw driver, a hammer, and a pair of pliers. Or one of those
Skeleton keys.
Daniel J. Stern - 20 Oct 2004 20:27 GMT
> Chrysler has traditionally had easily defeatable ignition systems making
> them really easy to steal. Good for joyriders. Especially early 90's
> Chryslers, but they're started to get less common. I'd estimate 50% of
> Acclaims / Sundances / Voyagers owners use "The Club" because of this.

You've just jogged my memory -- I remember taking my old Valiant in for an
insurance adjustor inspection and seeing a direct-replacement
high-security ignition lock assembly for Chrysler vehicles with the
Accustar steering column (basically all '90-'95, with Jeeps and some
trucks going later than that). No idea who made it or where to get
one...sound familiar to anyone?
Joe - 21 Oct 2004 03:48 GMT
> > The HLDI released it's list of cars based on how likely they are to be
> stolen.
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> Chryslers, but they're started to get less common. I'd estimate 50% of
> Acclaims / Sundances / Voyagers owners use "The Club" because of this.

Sounds like you live in Boston. I didn't think 50% of anybody used the "the
club", let alone anybody driving a dull car. Even if you could easily steal
a sundance, why would you bother?
Bill 2 - 21 Oct 2004 04:10 GMT
> "Bill 2" <asdf@asdf.com> wrote in message

> > Chrysler has traditionally had easily defeatable ignition systems making
> > them really easy to steal. Good for joyriders. Especially early 90's
> > Chryslers, but they're started to get less common. I'd estimate 50% of
> > Acclaims / Sundances / Voyagers owners use "The Club" because of this.
> >
> Sounds like you live in Boston.

Halifax

> I didn't think 50% of anybody used the "the
> club", let alone anybody driving a dull car. Even if you could easily steal
> a sundance, why would you bother?

Joyride / getaway vehicle. Easy to steal and fairly popular. On my street
there are probably about 5 early 90's Chryslers waiting to be stolen.
Brian Barnson - 21 Oct 2004 17:17 GMT
   Heard on the news this morning that here in Canada the #1 stolen car is
the Subaru WRX.  One of the Caddies was #2.
                                                Brian, in Cedar

> The HLDI released it's list of cars based on how likely they are to be
> stolen.
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> that
> thieves are interested in?
Scott en Aztl?n - 22 Oct 2004 04:29 GMT
>    Heard on the news this morning that here in Canada the #1 stolen car is
>the Subaru WRX.  

Prolly because they're so good in the snow with their AWD. ;)

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