> THat's right. Damn near forgot I had the same thing happen to my 93 I had.
> Engine would act nuts and the tach would go crazy too.
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> >>> Ted
> >> ""What you have described so far isn't possible. Here's what I'm hearing
> Hey Ted
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> I?ve said nothing about NOT backfiring at full throttle.
Then in that case, the symptoms are consistent with a intermittent secondary
misfire.
Since only the plug wires and the coil itself are part of this system, and
you said
you replaced the plug wires, then the next suspect is the coil.
I had thought in one of your prior posts you had said you replaced the
coils.
And I am positive in a prior post you said you had replaced the plug wires.
> 2) We tested the ingnition with a timing strobe and it?s behaves
> correctly.
> I have replaced the wires and plugs, not the ignition coils.We
> measured them and they seems ok according to the values that i found
> on Allpars.com.
A resistance measurement for a coil is useless.
> 3) The cars emissions is ok. I dont know how you are doing the test in
> your country but here we test at idle and at what they call elevated
> idle (about 2500-3000rpm) and it passes that test.
OK, well then that kind of testing is garbage. Do you drive only at idle
speed and only at 2500-3000rpm when you are on the road?
I have a long sheet
> of paper with the result of the tests we made but they are at my
> friends workshop unfortunatley.
Here, 1995 and prior vehicles are tested on a dyno. The car is run from
idle up to around 4000rpm in a gradual curve, then back down. They have
to have the exact vehicle make/model/engine so I am of the opinion that
the curve used is different for each engine. It is probably optimized to
try
to make the vehicle fail, at least that is how I'd program it if I wrote it.
> We also tested the fuelpressure (OK)and the vacuum (OK)and alot of
> other things that were OK.
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> distance a couple of times and then floor it again and it accelerates
> just fine.
OK clarification then:, when you "floor it" your going at WOT right?
You see, this basically knocks out the intermittent secondary misfire
idea/coil failure diagnosis.
If it was a real ignition misfire such as coil or plug wires, it would do it
ALL the time
including the time that you are saying that it's "accellerating just fine"
regardless of
the pumping your doing.
> I think just as you do it must be one of the sensors, probably the TPS
> sensor that also works as a "acceleration pump" what i understand. I?m
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> with a caravan or a trailer, but it will always start to mess around
> at the same rpm.
could be. I know what you want me to say, you want me to say it's the
TPS so you can go waste more money shotgunning.
> As you said...it?s a impossible problem and i hope the scantool will
> help me otherwise i have to throw my motto away and go to the local
> Chrysler workshop with the tail between my legs....and i don?t like
> that, i tell you that!.
It's not an impossible problem - this is why they make scantools. This is
your own vehicle, right? Why are you so resistant to buying a scantool?!
Here's an example of one that would have worked perfectly for you,
check out the price!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=2495352522&ca
tegory=43989&sspagename=WDVW
> And Ted
> I have access to (almost)a fully equipped workshop with owner and that
> hasen?t helped me so far unfortunatley, but my hope lays on the
> scantool.
> Thank you for your help in this matter, you put some new id?as into my
> head to try if the scantool takes to long to get hold of.
You really need a factory service manual if your trying to DIY.
Ted