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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / October 2004

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Stratus Engine Swap?

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Ed Dreistadt - 23 Oct 2004 14:47 GMT
I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled
to a 5-speed.

Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in its
place while keeping the 5-speed?  This combo wasn't offered when I
bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
2.0.

I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the Kidney
Foundation.

-Ed Dreistadt
maxpower - 23 Oct 2004 15:56 GMT
If it wasnt offered before......how are you gonna get the engine controller
that will make the 2.4 run??
> I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled
> to a 5-speed.
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>
> -Ed Dreistadt
Cirrus99x - 23 Oct 2004 16:06 GMT
>Ed Dreistadt wrote:

>I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled
>to a 5-speed.
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>
>-Ed Dreistadt

Ed,
  Check out http://www.stratusphere.us/ I'm sure someone over there has done
that swap.

   LG
Daniel J. Stern - 24 Oct 2004 00:39 GMT
> I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled to
> a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in
> its place while keeping the 5-speed?  This combo wasn't offered when I
> bought the car back in '95, but sure would be a lot more fun than the
> 2.0. I'm debating between making a project car or donating it to the
> Kidney Foundation.

ED-

Bolt pattern's the same, as are the engine mounts, etc. The sticking point
would be the engine control module. The 2.0 module wouldn't happily run a
2.4, but a module for a 2.4 with automatic transmission would be less than
happy running in front of a manual. If I had to pick, I'd use a 2.4/auto
module and deal symptomatically with whatever effects might show up.

Of course, there are bound to be 2.4 litre engines and control modules
available out of crashed PT Cruisers, by now... www.car-part.com is your
friend!

-DS
maxpower - 24 Oct 2004 11:39 GMT
If that was not offered  back then ,,,, then there was no module back then
either, you can interchange the modules from apllication to application such
as pt cruiser to stratus, the harness are different, the same with needeing
to   know if it is an automatic trans or manual, assuming you are in an area
that requires a state emmission program.....u may have  serious problems

> > I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled to
> > a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in
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>
> -DS
mic canic - 24 Oct 2004 16:37 GMT
actually the module may work and i say that because  a friend in cali. has a
300m with a 3.5 and i put in a salvage yard pcm from a year earlier car with a
3.2 and used a drb to reset the module and even progamed a new skim into  and
it's been running fine since
he even passed emissions there
i believe there is a car club called the 12th element  who hop up neon's and
that some of the things they have been doing if i remember correctly

> If that was not offered  back then ,,,, then there was no module back then
> either, you can interchange the modules from apllication to application such
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> >
> > -DS
maxpower - 24 Oct 2004 18:35 GMT
the word "MAY WORK" thats a big may to swap out an engine to find out it
wont work or wont pass emissions, keep in mind that if the engine doesnt
match the emissions label under the hood it will never pass anyhow...... if
checked by an emissions inspector, not to mention anything about tampering
also
> actually the module may work and i say that because  a friend in cali. has a
> 300m with a 3.5 and i put in a salvage yard pcm from a year earlier car with a
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> > >
> > > -DS
Ed Dreistadt - 26 Oct 2004 12:32 GMT
Dan:

I have a 2.2 turbo '85 LeBaron and the folks who mess with those
motors have put together some amazing things.  Mine has an Omni GLHS
engine control module with an overlay harness that lets the car run
the intake system from a '90 2.5.

Figured there might be someone out there who has figured out how to
hot rod a Stratus.

I wonder if the head from the Stratus would swap on to a 2.4, allowing
me to keep all the current controls?

Probably way too much work, but fun to think about.

Also, shoot me an email when you get a chance.  I still have your
Slant 6 clock.

-Ed

>> I have a '95 Stratus with 186,000 miles and a very tired 2.0L coupled to
>> a 5-speed. Anyone know how much of a hassel it would be to put a 2.4L in
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>
>-DS
Daniel J. Stern - 26 Oct 2004 16:37 GMT
> I wonder if the head from the Stratus would swap on to a 2.4, allowing
> me to keep all the current controls?

No, the problem with running the 2.0 computer is that its spark and fuel
curves are set up for the 2.0, not the 2.4. It would probably run, just
probably somewhere between "not optimally" and "not very well".

DS
Daniel J. Stern - 26 Oct 2004 21:13 GMT
> Dan:

> shoot me an email when you get a chance.  I still have your Slant 6
> clock.

Tried, but e-mail bounces "no such user" even when I delete the "NOSPAM".
Go hit danielsternlighting.com and send me mail from there?

DS
 
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