Hey, all, trying to help out my folks here. They're 64/65 and spend a
LOT of time in their T&C, think it's a 2001. They just put over 500
miles on it this week going to their grandkid's sporting events.
(Central Nebraska - <everything> is an hour's drive away, at least!)
The thing is quickly approaching 100K miles, and they think it's time
for something else.
They really like the one they have, particularly the seats. They've
looked at new ones, but it seems the big thing nowadays is seats that
fold away. They couldn't care less about that, they just want seats
that are comfortable! My Dad has tried them, and says it's a
night-and-day difference, not comfy at all.
I heard a story today of a dealer who said there was no difference, but
then admitted under pressure that a different company was making the
seats, and doing it cheaper to counteract the expense of the fold-away
thing.
1. Any "insiders" out there know anything about the seats? Did they
really change manufacturers?
2. Any way to get "old style" seats, preferably to the 2001?
3. Any recommendations, strictly looking for similar vehicles with
comfy seats?
Thanks, all!
Mike
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James C. Reeves - 19 Dec 2004 20:55 GMT
Don't know much about the seats, but I know a lot of folks that have gotten
good service out of their Chrysler vans well in excess of 100K miles.
Art - 20 Dec 2004 04:26 GMT
I believe low end models in 2004 did not have the fold away seats so you
might check out left overs on the lot. Note that the cushioning is thinner
but higher quality. Although the foam may initially feel hard it might
actually prove more comfortable on a longer trip. Try sitting in it for
several minutes before giving up. It is similar to the expensive pillows
sold at Brookstone. Body heat softens it so you have to sit on it for a
while to judge it. We like the pillows.
> Hey, all, trying to help out my folks here. They're 64/65 and spend a
> LOT of time in their T&C, think it's a 2001. They just put over 500
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> Mike
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Art - 20 Dec 2004 17:13 GMT
I meant low end models in 2005.
>I believe low end models in 2004 did not have the fold away seats so you
>might check out left overs on the lot. Note that the cushioning is thinner
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>> Mike
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Jeff Wieland - 21 Dec 2004 15:37 GMT
>I meant low end models in 2005.
The short wheelbase Town & Country, and the long wheelbase Town &
Country Signature Series do not have the Stow 'n Go seating. The SWB
model still has the middle bench seat. My wife and I have been looking
at replacing our '95 Voyager SE, and since she wants an SWB model with
a middle bench seat and a V6, we're looking at the base model Town &
Country. Why the SWB Caravan can only be had with the 2.4L is beyond
me.
It's too bad that the colors are so rotten this year. If Chrysler had
a decent shade of green (a forest green, or maybe even a jade green --
not that putrid "Magnesium Pearl Coat"), we would have a 2 ton
Christmas present on the way!
--
Jeff Wieland
jdoe - 20 Dec 2004 11:07 GMT
I"ve sat in 04 and 05 side by side. Once you get the headrest adjusted on
the 05 if someone blindfolded you and put you in one or the other you would
not tell the difference. They LOOK thin and because they look that way the
belief is they're not as comfortable. But they are every bit as comfortable.
The one suprise I got (since we have been looking at possiblity of a new LTD
or Touring ourselves) is the lack of headroom in the front passenger seat.
If you get the side curtain bags (especially if you get the sunroof) I
cannot sit in the passenger seat at all. Without the sunroof there is a
protrusion at the top for the side bag that I hit too but it's not as bad.
NOw I'm fairly large but not a giant size 6'1" and about 195 lb FWIW. Is
that what they're comparing? Or the rear seats. Like I said once you get
over the visual of the rear seats they really are fine.
Larry
> Hey, all, trying to help out my folks here. They're 64/65 and spend a
> LOT of time in their T&C, think it's a 2001. They just put over 500
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> Mike
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mdmarshall@my-deja.com - 20 Dec 2004 14:55 GMT
Well, like I said, I <think> it's an '01, definitely not newer. Don't
know if 01 differs from 04 or not.
Another dealer whom my Dad trusts said flat out they weren't as good.
Mike
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RPhillips47 - 20 Dec 2004 20:54 GMT
>Another dealer whom my Dad trusts said flat out they weren't as good.
That dealer really has some great salesmanship there! Will he make more money
selling used, rather than new, vehicles?
jdoe - 20 Dec 2004 21:09 GMT
Why would he trust someone who is stupid enough to bite the hand that's
feeding him?!
> Well, like I said, I <think> it's an '01, definitely not newer. Don't
> know if 01 differs from 04 or not.
>
> Another dealer whom my Dad trusts said flat out they weren't as good.
> Mike
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Lin - 20 Dec 2004 18:43 GMT
I recently purchased a 2005 T&C, SWB with Quad Seats (bucket), which
are comfortable and easily removed.
Geoff - 20 Dec 2004 19:19 GMT
> Date: 19 Dec 2004 12:38:18 -0800
> From: mdmarshall@my-deja.com
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> seats, and doing it cheaper to counteract the expense of the fold-away
> thing.
Ever hear the thing about an 'expert' being little more than the
combination of an ex- (has been) and a -spurt (a drip under pressure)?
> 1. Any "insiders" out there know anything about the seats? Did they
> really change manufacturers?
I *think* Magna makes these in SW Ontario. If I'm right about that,
they've been the same supplier for awhile now.
> 2. Any way to get "old style" seats, preferably to the 2001?
Sure, visit any late-model scrap yard.
> 3. Any recommendations, strictly looking for similar vehicles with
> comfy seats?
No minivan will be as inexpensive to own as the one they already have.
--Geoff
James C. Reeves - 20 Dec 2004 23:56 GMT
"Geoff" <geoff_gariepy@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message >>
> Ever hear the thing about an 'expert' being little more than the
> combination of an ex- (has been) and a -spurt (a drip under pressure)?
Last time I heard that saying was from an old acquaintance of mine that used
to play running back for the Baltimore Colts, Howard Stevens.
Alex Rodriguez - 21 Dec 2004 17:09 GMT
>Hey, all, trying to help out my folks here. They're 64/65 and spend a
>LOT of time in their T&C, think it's a 2001. They just put over 500
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>3. Any recommendations, strictly looking for similar vehicles with
>comfy seats?
The drivers seat does not fold away, so I don't see why they would be
any different than the seats from the 2001 model.
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Alex
mdmarshall@my-deja.com - 21 Dec 2004 17:53 GMT
I can't imagine making a radical change to all the other seats,
including changing the manufacturer, but still leaving one seat the
same.
Mike
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