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Vilfrard8 - 27 Jan 2005 12:17 GMT
For all who what a 300c what the brains blowin out hip hop for convertible,from
the people who brought us pimp my ride.How come they can do it but chrysler
can't. It looks nice but i don't trust the
quality.http://westcoastcustoms.com/Home/Pages/index.htm
N8N - 27 Jan 2005 13:49 GMT
> For all who what a 300c what the brains blowin out hip hop for convertible,from
> the people who brought us pimp my ride.How come they can do it but chrysler
> can't. It looks nice but i don't trust the
> quality.http://westcoastcustoms.com/Home/Pages/index.htm

I wouldn't even park my car on the same street as WCC after watching
that show a couple times.  Too bad those guys haven't a clue what
proper bodywork is; I wonder how all those kids feel who have had their
rides "pimped" after a year or two when the big chunks of bondo start
falling out.

nate
General Schvantzkoph - 27 Jan 2005 14:06 GMT
>> For all who what a 300c what the brains blowin out hip hop for
> convertible,from
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> nate

They've just been sued by the DOT for replacing a drivers side airbag with
a TV screen. You've got to give them credit for that one, if you're going
to be irresponsible don't do it in a little way, do something
fantastically idiotic.
Alex Rodriguez - 27 Jan 2005 17:37 GMT
>They've just been sued by the DOT for replacing a drivers side airbag with
>a TV screen. You've got to give them credit for that one, if you're going
>to be irresponsible don't do it in a little way, do something
>fantastically idiotic.

Huh?  I for one would not miss the explosive device in my steering wheel.
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Alex
Daniel J. Stern - 27 Jan 2005 18:41 GMT
> >They've just been sued by the DOT for replacing a drivers side airbag
> >with a TV screen. You've got to give them credit for that one, if
> >you're going to be irresponsible don't do it in a little way, do
> >something fantastically idiotic.

> Huh?  I for one would not miss the explosive device in my steering
> wheel.

Well, of course, and you as a vehicle owner have the right to remove,
deactivate or disable the airbag(s) in your own vehicle(s), unless your
state has a law against same. But, it's FEDERALLY illegal for any
professional (=mechanic, bodyman, TV network exec, etc.) to remove,
disable, modify in such a way as to render noncompliant, or render
inoperative any device, system or design feature required by Federal Motor
Vehicle Safety Standards.

Civil penalties are up to $5k per violation up to a max of $15m *plus*
another up-to-$15m for company principals who ought to have known better.
N8N - 27 Jan 2005 18:51 GMT
> > >They've just been sued by the DOT for replacing a drivers side airbag
> > >with a TV screen. You've got to give them credit for that one, if
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Civil penalties are up to $5k per violation up to a max of $15m *plus*
> another up-to-$15m for company principals who ought to have known better.

Well, since they're clearly not professionals I bet this suit will get
thrown out.

nate
maxpower - 30 Jan 2005 15:12 GMT
> > > >They've just been sued by the DOT for replacing a drivers side
> airbag
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
> nate

Nope,,    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/
Two vehicle customizing firms agreed to pay a total of $21,000 for removal
of drivers' side air bags. NHTSA charged both West Coast Customs of
Inglewood, CA, and Unique Autosports of Uniondale, NY, with removal of air
bags to install video monitors in the steering wheel. Federal law prohibits
companies from removing mandated safety equipment
NJ Vike - 01 Feb 2005 23:12 GMT
Makes you wonder if the insurance company won't pay for injuries should the
individual require medical attention.

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>> >They've just been sued by the DOT for replacing a drivers side airbag
>> >with a TV screen. You've got to give them credit for that one, if
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Civil penalties are up to $5k per violation up to a max of $15m *plus*
> another up-to-$15m for company principals who ought to have known better.
Daniel J. Stern - 27 Jan 2005 18:27 GMT
> > Pimp My Ride West Coast Customs

> They've just been sued by the DOT for replacing a drivers side airbag
> with a TV screen. You've got to give them credit for that one, if you're
> going to be irresponsible don't do it in a little way, do something
> fantastically idiotic.

Oh, beautiful. Beautiful! That one's gonna cost 'em.
Daniel J. Stern - 27 Jan 2005 18:24 GMT
> a 300c convertible,from the people who brought us pimp my ride.

> I wouldn't even park my car on the same street as WCC after watching
> that show a couple times.

It took you a *couple* of times?

Pimp My Ride: Reason number 3,990,390 why I do not watch television.
N8N - 27 Jan 2005 18:50 GMT
> > a 300c convertible,from the people who brought us pimp my ride.
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Pimp My Ride: Reason number 3,990,390 why I do not watch television.

Yeah, it sucks, but for a nice counterexample watch "Overhaulin'" a
couple times.  While there's only so much that can be done to a car in
a week - the standard build there seems to be shave the locks, tuck the
bumpers in, drop in a "crate" drivetrain and spray a custom paint job
on it - I've been consistently impressed with the quality of work.
Rust is cut out and new sheetmetal welded in, frames are powdercoated,
and suspensions and brakes are usually upgraded with good quality
parts.  Not to mention the fact that you usually end up seeing Chip
Foose aligning body panels, grinding away rust, etc. which only
increases my respect for him.  I wouldn't mind one bit if Chip were to
overhaul one of my cars (although the thought of trying to source a
"crate" Studebaker engine in a week is amusing... and let's not even
contemplate the ubuquitous SBC/THM350 swap, ugh...)

nate
TNKEV - 27 Jan 2005 16:00 GMT
I think it looks like a sebring with the front and rear of a 300.
> For all who what a 300c what the brains blowin out hip hop for convertible,from
> the people who brought us pimp my ride.How come they can do it but chrysler
> can't. It looks nice but i don't trust the
> quality.http://westcoastcustoms.com/Home/Pages/index.htm
KaWallski - 29 Jan 2005 02:54 GMT
After I followed that link and discovered the pix for the convert....I gotta
say, that chrysler's marketing people are going to miss the mark big time if
they don't offer that to the public.

That body was MADE to be offered as a ragtop.

> I think it looks like a sebring with the front and rear of a 300.
> > For all who what a 300c what the brains blowin out hip hop for
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > can't. It looks nice but i don't trust the
> > quality.http://westcoastcustoms.com/Home/Pages/index.htm
MoPar Man - 29 Jan 2005 03:24 GMT
> After I followed that link and discovered the pix for the convert..
>
> That body was MADE to be offered as a ragtop.

Not as much as this was:

http://tinyurl.com/46mlc
http://tinyurl.com/4w75h
http://tinyurl.com/56gt9
http://tinyurl.com/4fqz2
http://tinyurl.com/6lrlm
http://tinyurl.com/6t4ce
http://tinyurl.com/3rrfp
KaWallski - 29 Jan 2005 06:01 GMT
NAh still like the current 300

> > After I followed that link and discovered the pix for the convert..
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> http://tinyurl.com/6t4ce
> http://tinyurl.com/3rrfp
vilfrard - 30 Jan 2005 14:13 GMT
I won't to see one done buy the overhauling team. I like the Lexus
IS430 they made for lexus, Chrysler should let them make a 300c
convertible without all the TV's and bondo. I can't believe people with
all that money go to this cheap body shop to do work on there cars.
Alex Rodriguez - 27 Jan 2005 17:38 GMT
>For all who what a 300c what the brains blowin out hip hop for convertible,from
>the people who brought us pimp my ride.How come they can do it but chrysler
>can't. It looks nice but i don't trust the
>quality.http://westcoastcustoms.com/Home/Pages/index.htm

No doubt the car looks good.  I don't like the tacky chrome grill and
chrom wheels, but the rest looks pretty good.
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Alex
Daniel J. Stern - 27 Jan 2005 18:42 GMT
> > It looks nice but i don't trust the
> > quality.http://westcoastcustoms.com/Home/Pages/index.htm

> No doubt the car looks good.  I don't like the tacky chrome grill and
> chrom wheels, but the rest looks pretty good.

...and the black spray-painted taillamps and sidemarker lights, and the
dumb speakers in the doors and elsewhere, and the 57 TV screens...
Steve - 27 Jan 2005 19:30 GMT
>>>It looks nice but i don't trust the
>>>quality.http://westcoastcustoms.com/Home/Pages/index.htm
>
>>No doubt the car looks good.  I don't like the tacky chrome grill and
>>chrom wheels, but the rest looks pretty good.

I like the fine-mesh grille, HATE the wheels and rubber-band no-traction
tires. HATE HATE HATE HATE.

> ...and the black spray-painted taillamps and sidemarker lights, and the
> dumb speakers in the doors and elsewhere, and the 57 TV screens...

Agreed on the tail lamps, but blacked out side-markers just follows in
the hot-rod tradition of "shaved" door handles and such.

TVs don't belong in cars, PERIOD.
Alex Rodriguez - 28 Jan 2005 18:05 GMT
>TVs don't belong in cars, PERIOD.

Spoken like someone who does not have young children.  TV's are appropriate
when used by passengers, not the driver.
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Alex
N8N - 28 Jan 2005 18:31 GMT
> >TVs don't belong in cars, PERIOD.
>
> Spoken like someone who does not have young children.  TV's are appropriate
> when used by passengers, not the driver.
> -------------
> Alex

that's possibly true... but ISTM that kids raised watching TV in the
car have a completely different perspective than those without...  when
I was growing up, the family car was a '67 Cutlass hardtop, without
even air conditioning or FM radio...  a road trip in the summer was
obviously windows down, you got all the sounds, smells, etc. of
everything going on around you, today's cars are much more insulated
from the driving experience both for the drivers and passengers... does
this mean that the sports car or basic, no-frills (yet still fun to
drive) car will be completely dead in another generation, or relegated
to occasional weekend short trips only (and therefore an expensive,
niche market?) because people won't have the same associations that I
have with riding around in the family ride?  I sure hope not!  But
really, sometime in the late 60's or early 70's it seems that cars
really blew up into something more than they'd been before - instead of
simple transportation appliances that just did their job and took you
where you wanted to go they became something like extensions of the
home, insulating one from all the nasty outdoors around you - and while
apparently most people like that, I still enjoy driving with the
windows down, top off, etc. drinking in my surroundings, and I could
care less if my car has anything more than rudimentary climate control,
any power amenities, etc - as long as it still runs, handles, and stops
well I'm happy with it.

Man, I wish my dad hadn't scrapped that car.  I understand why he did
it (frame was rusting out after 13ish years and 300K+ miles of
year-round western PA use) but still... like it or not, they don't make
'em like that anymore...  more on topic to this group, I'd probably
prefer, say, an old Dart GT convertible, but those old Olds drivetrains
were actually some of GM's best... another proud name that's not with
us anymore...

Dang, I have no idea where that came from, but I can't wait to get the
convertible put together now!  I need an open-air road trip bad!  (I
can almost imagine it now...  that "old car" smell of various hot
automotive fluids, warm breeze, the sound of that nice old V-8 through
duals behind me, the feel of that big Hurst shifter knob...  the "giant
sucking sound" of a four-barrel through an open element air cleaner...
ah, I feel better now...)

nate

(proudly driving my beat-up old 944 every day, while I still can!)
Steve - 28 Jan 2005 20:13 GMT
>>TVs don't belong in cars, PERIOD.
>
> Spoken like someone who does not have young children.  TV's are appropriate
> when used by passengers, not the driver.

Actually, I do. But having passengers read a book is a lot less
distracting than a prattling TV in the back seat.
Alex Rodriguez - 14 Feb 2005 22:08 GMT
>>>TVs don't belong in cars, PERIOD.
>> Spoken like someone who does not have young children.  TV's are appropriate
>> when used by passengers, not the driver.
>
>Actually, I do. But having passengers read a book is a lot less
>distracting than a prattling TV in the back seat.

Newer units have wireless headsets, so you would not be distracted by
kids watching movies in the back seat.  Reading is also a great way to
keep kids occupied, but having more than one option is a good idea.
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Alex
Daniel J. Stern - 27 Jan 2005 18:21 GMT
> For all who what a 300c what the brains blowin out hip hop for
> convertible,from the people who brought us pimp my ride.How come they
> can do it but chrysler can't. It looks nice but i don't trust the
> quality.http://westcoastcustoms.com/Home/Pages/index.htm

Hey, look, it's a 300C done up by/for the coke dealer/user set.
Geoff - 29 Jan 2005 03:02 GMT
>> For all who what a 300c what the brains blowin out hip hop for
>> convertible,from the people who brought us pimp my ride.How come they
>> can do it but chrysler can't. It looks nice but i don't trust the
>> quality.http://westcoastcustoms.com/Home/Pages/index.htm
>
> Hey, look, it's a 300C done up by/for the coke dealer/user set.

Ab-so-frickin'-lutely!  Such horrid taste, these 'pimp my riders' have.
Such a premium is placed on sound and video equipment, wheels and chrome and
fiberglass.  Why have these kids all got such a watered-down idea of what a
performance car should be?  All style..(poor style)...no substance.

Awful.  Truly awful.  It hurts to look at it.  Yuck.

--Geoff
lab~rat - 10 Feb 2005 19:04 GMT
>For all who what a 300c what the brains blowin out hip hop for convertible,from
>the people who brought us pimp my ride.How come they can do it but chrysler
>can't. It looks nice but i don't trust the
>quality.http://westcoastcustoms.com/Home/Pages/index.htm

BTW, conspicuous by its absence was a picture of the top up.  I'm
guessing there is none...

--
lab~rat  >:-)
The less you care, the more it doesn't matter.
 
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