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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / February 2005now Daimler is dragging down Chrysler
Just read Mercedes is now the brand that has seen profits plummet while the Chrysler end made 10x the profit of the Mercedes nameplate, with the hot selling Chrysler 300 etc. How times change... > Just read Mercedes is now the brand that has seen profits plummet while > the Chrysler end made 10x the profit of the Mercedes nameplate, with > the hot selling Chrysler 300 etc. How times change... I'm still upset about Chrysler selling out to Daimler. I can't believe the stockholders bought into it...after all the failed mergers out there too! > I'm still upset about Chrysler selling out to Daimler. I can't > believe the stockholders bought into it...after all the failed > mergers out there too! The stockholders were told (at the time) that it was a merger - not an acquisition as Daimler execs called it soon after. What ever happened to Kerkorian's law suit? I know that stockholders of record at the time of the "merger" were offered a settlement about a year ago (I posted details of the offer in this NG) by DC in an attempt to (I think) limit the dammages that they'd be liable for if Kerkorian wins his suit. Very strange. Punch "Kerkorian chrysler" into Google News search and you'll get ONLY 1 hit. Dodge goes retro with Charger Seattle Post Intelligencer, WA - 28 Jan 2005 http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/wheels/209515_road28.html Pretty recent article. Too bad the link doesn't work. Someone is going to very remarkable lengths to keep this story out of the news. A general web search turns up this article: http://www.ai-online.com/issues/article_detail.asp?id=674 Which briefly mentions the law as still pending. >> Just read Mercedes is now the brand that has seen profits plummet while >> the Chrysler end made 10x the profit of the Mercedes nameplate, with >> the hot selling Chrysler 300 etc. How times change... > >I'm still upset about Chrysler selling out to Daimler. I can't believe the >stockholders bought into it...after all the failed mergers out there too! Stock holders had no choice. ------------ Alex I do wonder how long the 300 will remain stylish and hot. PTCruiser was hot too once. > Just read Mercedes is now the brand that has seen profits plummet while > the Chrysler end made 10x the profit of the Mercedes nameplate, with > the hot selling Chrysler 300 etc. How times change... >I do wonder how long the 300 will remain stylish and hot. PTCruiser was >hot too once. It will remain hot until everyone that wants ones gets one, then the sales will trail off. I'm still waiting for the Suburban ^H Hummer H2 to stop being "stylish" Personally, I don't think either one is particularly hot. But, I'm obviously in the minority. >I do wonder how long the 300 will remain stylish and hot. PTCruiser was >hot too once. > >> Just read Mercedes is now the brand that has seen profits plummet while >> the Chrysler end made 10x the profit of the Mercedes nameplate, with >> the hot selling Chrysler 300 etc. How times change... > I do wonder how long the 300 will remain stylish and hot. PTCruiser was hot > too once. And had a nice long run, and still sells "OK." If the 300 exactly matches the PT's sales curve, it will be an unmitigated success. Nothing stays top-of-the-market for decades except a few bland, generic, rental-fleet people-movers like Camry and Taurus. >> I do wonder how long the 300 will remain stylish and hot. PTCruiser was >> hot too once. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > top-of-the-market for decades except a few bland, generic, rental-fleet > people-movers like Camry and Taurus. I bet there are a couple of companies out there that would love to make a bland car that sells like the Camry. On 10 Feb 2005 10:52:04 -0800, "frenchy" <mf101723@aol.com> >Just read Mercedes is now the brand that has seen profits plummet while >the Chrysler end made 10x the profit of the Mercedes nameplate, with >the hot selling Chrysler 300 etc. How times change... If you go down to your Chrysler dealership, they'll tell you how they now have "Mercedes technology" in the new models. I've also recently read some complaints about Mercedes quality declining. Apparently, they're putting Chrysler technology in Mercedes now. Don't tell my Sebring I posted this. Some suspension components and the crappy wiper stick has been incorporated into some new Chrylsers. > On 10 Feb 2005 10:52:04 -0800, "frenchy" <mf101723@aol.com> > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Don't tell my Sebring I posted this. Just a reminder that that is a personal opinion. I like the integrated wiper stick with indicator, as it happens (if that is what you mean). DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- > the crappy wiper stick has been incorporated [..] Do you have a 300? That has the Mercedes stick. > Just a reminder that that is a personal opinion. I like the integrated > wiper stick with indicator, as it happens (if that is what you mean). [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> the crappy wiper stick has been incorporated > [..] Please pardon my ignorance, but WTH is an "intergrated wiper stick"? Gramps > Do you have a 300? That has the Mercedes stick. > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >> the crappy wiper stick has been incorporated > > [..] To answer your and Art's queries: An integrated wiper stick is one on which the wiper functions and indicators (plus main headlight beam) are on the one stalk. My car is a Merc -- not Mercury :-) -- CLK Cabrio. (My other car is a Merc 190E with same type of stalk...) DAS For direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- > Please pardon my ignorance, but WTH is an "intergrated wiper stick"? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> >> the crappy wiper stick has been incorporated >> > [..] Thanks. After getting the thought of a self wiping oil dipstick out of my mind, your definition finally came to mind. Jim > To answer your and Art's queries: > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > >> >> the crappy wiper stick has been incorporated > >> > [..] Now that image sticks in MY mind... It brings to mind an April 1 advert that BMW once ran in the UK. It promoted the BMW badge with wiper. :-) DAS  SignatureFor direct contact replace nospam with schmetterling --- > Thanks. After getting the thought of a self wiping oil dipstick out of my > mind, your definition finally came to mind. [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] >> >> >> the crappy wiper stick has been incorporated >> >> > [..] > To answer your and Art's queries: > > An integrated wiper stick is one on which the wiper functions and > indicators (plus main headlight beam) are on the one stalk. I hate those combination "sticks". > Just read Mercedes is now the brand that has seen profits plummet while > the Chrysler end made 10x the profit of the Mercedes nameplate, with > the hot selling Chrysler 300 etc. How times change... Change? That's exactly how it was just prior to the merg^H^H^H^H rape and pillage. MB was sucking its own exhaust and desperate for Chrysler's modern and rapid design-to-production capabilities. Most pundits who actually understood engineering realized that Benz needed Chrysler a lot worse than Chrysler needed Benz. Too bad Chrysler management at the time didn't actually understand engineering... >Just read Mercedes is now the brand that has seen profits plummet while >the Chrysler end made 10x the profit of the Mercedes nameplate, with >the hot selling Chrysler 300 etc. How times change... Blame the dollar/euro exchange rate. ----------- Alex |
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