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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / March 20052001 300m passenger door handle(inside)
Chrome plating peeling off and is very sharp, in fact I cut my hand on it. The dealer wants $140.00 to replace it. Seems like an awful lot to me, any suggestions? > Chrome plating peeling off and is very sharp, in fact I cut my hand on it. > The dealer wants $140.00 to replace it. Seems like an awful lot to me, any > suggestions? Are they maybe saying they have to replace the whole door panel just to get a new handle? I think I've seen posts on dodgeintrepid.net and the 300M Enthusiasts forums saying that, but also that if you're skillful, you can get one out of a panel in a junk yard and figure out how to reinstall it - the problem is that the pivot pin, rivet or whatever that holds it in the panel, is not made to be serviced (removed/replaced), but you can do it with a little ingenuity. Another option would be to find the whole panel in good shape out of a junk yard, but it would take a little luck to find one of the same color, etc. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') > > Chrome plating peeling off and is very sharp, in fact I cut my hand on it. > > The dealer wants $140.00 to replace it. Seems like an awful lot to me, any [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > adddress with the letter 'x') The handles were part of the door panel at one time, now they are available seperate, I beleive they were about 40.00, but dont quote me on it SUBJECT: Interior Front Door Handle/Bezel Replacement OVERVIEW: This bulletin provides information to allow replacement of interior front door handle/bezel instead of replacement of the door trim panel. MODELS: 1998 - **2004** (LH) LHS/300M/Concorde/Intrepid SYMPTOM/CONDITION: An interior front door handle/bezel requires replacement. **PARTS REQUIRED: Qty. Part No. Description AR 05102832AA Handle/Bezel, Left, Intrepid, Agate, Trim Codes AZ or D5 AR 05102833AA Handle/Bezel, Right, Intrepid, Agate, Trim Codes AZ or D5 AR 05102834AA Handle/Bezel, Right, Intrepid, Dk Camel, Trim Code K9 AR 05102835AA Handle/Bezel, Left, Intrepid, Dk Camel, Trim Code K9 AR 05102836AA Handle/Bezel, Right, Intrepid, Dk Slate, Trim Code DV AR 05102837AA Handle/Bezel, Right, Intrepid, Dk Sandstone, Trim Code T5 AR 05102838AA Handle/Bezel, Right, Intrepid, Dk Taupe, Trim Code L5 AR 05102839AA Handle/Bezel, Left, Intrepid, Dk Slate, Trim Code DV AR 05102840AA Handle/Bezel, Left, Intrepid, Dk Sandstone, Trim Code T5 AR 05102841AA Handle/Bezel, Left, Intrepid, Dk Taupe, Trim Code L5 AR 05102842AA Handle/Bezel, Right, LHS/300, Agate, Trim Codes AZ or NUMBE Qty. Part No. Description D5 AR 05102844AA Handle/Bezel, Left, LHS/300M, Agate, Trim Codes AZ or D5 AR 05102845AA Handle/Bezel, Left, LHS/300M, Dk Camel, Trim Codes K9 or FK AR 05102846AA Handle/Bezel, Right, LHS/300M, Dk Camel, Trim Codes K9 or FK AR 05102847AA Handle/Bezel, Right, LHS/300M/Concorde Limited, Dk Slate, Trim Codes DV, D2 or ZA AR 05102849AA Handle/Bezel, Left, LHS/300M/Concorde Limited, Dk Slate, Trim Codes DV, D2 or ZA AR 05102850AA Handle/Bezel, Right, LHS/300M/Concorde Limited, Dk Sandstone, Trim Code T5 AR 05102851AA Handle/Bezel, Left, LHS/300M/Concorde Limited, Dk Sandstone, Trim Code T5 AR 05102852AA Handle/Bezel, Right, LHS/300M/Concorde Limited, Dk Taupe, Trim Codes L5 or L2 AR 05102853AA Handle/Bezel, Left, LHS/300M/Concorde Limited, Dk Taupe, Trim Codes L5 or L2 AR 05102854AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Left, Concorde, Agate, Color Handle, Trim Codes AZ or D5 AR 05102855AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Right, Concorde, Agate, Color Handle, Trim Codes AZ or D5 AR 05102856AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Left, Concorde, Dk Camel, Color Handle, Trim Code K9 AR 05102857AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Right, Concorde, Dk Camel, Color Handle, Trim Code K9 AR 05102858AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Right, Concorde, Dk Camel, Chrome Handle, Trim Code K9 AR 05102859AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Left, Concorde, Dk Camel, Chrome Handle, Trim Code K9 AR 05102860AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Right, Concorde, Agate, Chrome Handle, Trim Codes AZ or D5 AR 05102861AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Left, Concorde, Agate, Chrome Handle, Trim Codes AZ or D5 AR 05102862AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Left, Concorde, Dk Slate, Chrome Handle, Trim Code DV AR 05102863AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Right, Concorde, Dk Slate, Chrome Handle, Trim Code DV AR 05102864AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Left, Concorde, Dk Sandstone, Chrome Handle, Trim Code T5 Qty. Part No. Description AR 05102865AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Right, Concorde, Dk Sandstone, Chrome Handle, Trim Code T5 AR 05102866AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Left, Concorde, Dk Taupe, Chrome Handle, Trim Code L5 AR 05102867AA Handle/Bezel Woodgrain, Right, Concorde, Dk Taupe, Chrome Handle, Trim Code L5 ** NOTE: Each kit contains one handle/bezel assembly, six pushnuts and an instruction sheet. SPECIAL TOOLS/EQUIPMENT REQUIRED: NPN 21/64 in. (8.3mm) Drill Bit REPAIR PROCEDURE: 1. Remove the front door trim panel using the procedures outlined on TechCONNECT or in Section 23 of the appropriate service manual. 2. After placing the door trim panel on a clean work surface, use a 21/64 in. drill bit to drill out the mounting boss heat stakes that attach the existing door handle/bezel to the trim panel. Take extra care to drill in the center of each heat stake, (Fig. 1). Fig. 1 DRILL 4 HEAT STAKES 3. Remove the existing handle/bezel from trim panel. 4. Clean the back of the trim panel of all plastic filings. 5. Seat the new handle/bezel into position. 6. Place the push nuts onto the handle/bezel bosses. 7. Use a 10mm socket to install the push nuts all the way down on the mounting bosses to secure the handle/bezel onto the door trim panel. Using a wiggling side to side motion may be helpful, >>>Chrome plating peeling off and is very sharp, in fact I cut my hand on > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > This bulletin provides information... That's good news. Sounds like the $140 they were quoted uses this replacement handle and includes the labor for the labor intensive replacement work. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') I didn't think you could get a door panel for $140. >>>>Chrome plating peeling off and is very sharp, in fact I cut my hand on >> [quoted text clipped - 41 lines] > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > adddress with the letter 'x') WARRANTY!!!! Be kewl with the service manager and they will do it as "good will" towards the customers. One thing I do is take my cars to the dealers and get my oil changed when they send me cheap coupons... so when I have problems they know me and do stuff for free for me. stan@hirise.com >I didn't think you could get a door panel for $140. > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my >> adddress with the letter 'x') > WARRANTY!!!! Be kewl with the service manager and they will > do it as "good will" towards the customers. > One thing I do is take my cars to the dealers and get my oil changed > when they send me cheap coupons... so when I have problems they > know me and do stuff for free for me. And end up with stripped out oil pan drain plug threads? No thanks. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') > > WARRANTY!!!! Be kewl with the service manager and they will > > do it as "good will" towards the customers. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > adddress with the letter 'x') Bill are you saying that the dealers are the only ones that strip plugs?? >>>WARRANTY!!!! Be kewl with the service manager and they will >>>do it as "good will" towards the customers. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Bill are you saying that the dealers are the only ones that strip plugs?? Not at all - the lube shops are good for it too. I can only speculate on exactly why it happens - incompetence, spite, or pressure to create more business are some possibilities in any given instance, and which is more prevalent would only be a guess. I know the pans are aluminum, but I also know that, even then, the amount of torque it would take to strip one out is enormous compared to what it reasonably takes to properly tighten a drain plug. We're talking Ø14 mm threads (over Ø1/2") with probably, at a minimum, 7 full threads of engagement. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') > >>>WARRANTY!!!! Be kewl with the service manager and they will > >>>do it as "good will" towards the customers. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > adddress with the letter 'x') no engineer here but I beleive alot of it is due to these oil changes coming in the door with extreme temperatures and removing the steel drain plug from an aluminum pan. I mean they always told us not to pull spark plugs from the hot aluminum heads... my opinion >>>Bill are you saying that the dealers are the only ones that strip > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > an aluminum pan. I mean they always told us not to pull spark plugs from the > hot aluminum heads... my opinion Maybe that's the explanation, although in the 3 years of hearing about the problem (and my '99 that I bought with 58k on it had the problem when i bought it - I discoverd that the first time I went to change the oil), this is the first time anyone has suggested that as the cause. I'm skeptical about it, but you may have a valid point there. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') My Chrysler dealer has never stripped the threads changing oil. They have spilled oil all over the place though and one time the smoke was so bad I had to pull over and make sure the engine wasn't on fire. >> WARRANTY!!!! Be kewl with the service manager and they will >> do it as "good will" towards the customers. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > adddress with the letter 'x') > My Chrysler dealer has never stripped the threads changing oil. They have > spilled oil all over the place though and one time the smoke was so bad I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > > adddress with the letter 'x') Yup your right, the dealers are the only ones that do that stuff, independent shops and garages dont spill oil or strip bolts.....get real!! I hear ya.. try a Jiffy Lube! Bill sounds like you had a bad experience... I go to my dealers for my Dodge truck, Chrysler 300 and Hyundai Elantra and never have any problems, plus with the coupons they send me it is cheaper than those discount places and like I said you get good service and when you need a break on something they will take care of you.... stan@hirise.com >> My Chrysler dealer has never stripped the threads changing oil. They >> have [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Yup your right, the dealers are the only ones that do that stuff, > independent shops and garages dont spill oil or strip bolts.....get real!! > I hear ya.. try a Jiffy Lube! > > Bill sounds like you had a bad experience... Not me personally, but I read plenty of experiences on various Chrysler forums. I wasn't targeting Chrysler dealers in my original comment, although I can see how it could have looked that way - although, when my mother was 80 years old, she took her brand new Concorde in for it's first service, which included an oil and filter change. They billed her for it - but guess what - when I checked behind them, the original factory filter and oil were still there. I was thinking more along the lines of the pan threads being stripped if you if you don't do it yourself (whether you take it to the dealer, Jiffy Lube, or whomever). Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') > > I hear ya.. try a Jiffy Lube! > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my > adddress with the letter 'x') much better statement, thanks for clarifying that with us >> My Chrysler dealer has never stripped the threads changing oil. They >> have [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Yup your right, the dealers are the only ones that do that stuff, > independent shops and garages dont spill oil or strip bolts.....get real!! Actually my Chrysler dealer service is pretty darn good but can be sloppy when it comes to oil changes. Lets face it they don't have ace mechanics doing oil changes. > >> My Chrysler dealer has never stripped the threads changing oil. They > >> have [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > when it comes to oil changes. Lets face it they don't have ace mechanics > doing oil changes. Acually they do and alot of it falls on the dealer, they push these 30 min oil changes or you get it free, if they put the blame on the technician doing the job and he only has a certain time to get the car back to the customer where to you think the short cuts will come into play, it wont be the part that the plug or oil gets put in!! So it has to be the clean up part.. Not to say the service advisors lining them up and pushing. My opinion Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech >> >> My Chrysler dealer has never stripped the threads changing oil. They >> >> have [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Glenn Beasley > Chrysler Tech Our Chrysler dealer does not do 30 minute changes. My Toyota dealer used to but no longer guarantees it being done on time. > I didn't think you could get a door panel for $140. You're right. Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my adddress with the letter 'x') |
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