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Car Forum / Chrysler Cars / March 2005car wont start
"I have a 94 plymouth sundance and it wont start. i disconected the battey for a few hours to reset the computer and now it wont start. i don`t think that there is any spark could i have fried something. all the lights work the car just wont turn over i know its not a fuel problem i`ve tried some engine starter in to the carbaratior and it wont work still." > "I have a 94 plymouth sundance and it wont start. i disconected the > battey for a few hours to reset the computer and now it wont start. i > don`t think that there is any spark could i have fried something. all > the lights work the car just wont turn over i know its not a fuel > problem i`ve tried some engine starter in to the carbaratior and it wont > work still." First step, check for computer codes. To check the computer codes: With the engine off, switch the ignition key on-off-on-off-on, leaving it "ON". Do not go to "start", just "on" during this procedure. Watch the "Check Engine" or "Power Loss" light. It will turn on, then go off, then will begin to flash-out any trouble codes that have been stored. For instance, if it flashes: flash <pause> flash flash <long pause> flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash <long pause> flash flash flash flash flash <pause> flash flash flash flash flash Then you have a 12 (one flash followed by two) a 35 (three and five) and a 55 (five and five). 55 means "end of codes" or, if by itself, "No codes stored. Check the codes and report what you find. > > "I have a 94 plymouth sundance and it wont start. i > disconected the [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > "No codes > stored. Check the codes and report what you find. i got it to start it was the spark plugs they were bad very bad. now it takes forever to get going i press the acceltior all the way to the floor and it takes for ever to get going it moves slowley ti`ll it gets to about 30 then acts normally If the plugs were that bad, did you do the wires, cap and rotor as well? I just bought a 91 Sundance to drive as a work car, the plugs and everything associated with them were shot. Major improvement in running after all were changed. >If the plugs were that bad, did you do the wires, cap and rotor as well? I >just bought a 91 Sundance to drive as a work car, the plugs and everything >associated with them were shot. Major improvement in running after all were >changed. Have to agree. The no-power-until-about-30-mph sounds very much like the problem I was having. Replaced plugs and wires at the same time (no rotor). Problem solved. -- Christian Save Darfur -- http://www.savedarfur.org/ World Vision (Darfur) -- http://donate.wvus.org/OA_HTML/xxwvibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?section=10025&item=1072182 ICC (Sudan) -- http://www.persecution.org/Countries/sudan.html "newsgroupinky1" wrote: > >If the plugs were that bad, did you do the wires, cap and > rotor as well? I [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > http://donate.wvus.org/OA_HTML/xxwvibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?section=10025&item=1072182 > ICC (Sudan) -- http://www.persecution.org/Countries/sudan.html planing on doing the plugs and the disdriputer tommorw let you know how it works >"newsgroupinky1" wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] >planing on doing the plugs and the disdriputer tommorw let you know >how it works And the wires. Right? -- Christian Save Darfur -- http://www.savedarfur.org/ World Vision (Darfur) -- http://donate.wvus.org/OA_HTML/xxwvibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?section=10025&item=1072182 ICC (Sudan) -- http://www.persecution.org/Countries/sudan.html "newsgroupinky1" wrote: > >"newsgroupinky1" wrote: > > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 19:37:28 GMT, "b.clausen" [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > http://donate.wvus.org/OA_HTML/xxwvibeCCtpItmDspRte.jsp?section=10025&item=1072182 > ICC (Sudan) -- http://www.persecution.org/Countries/sudan.html i ment the wires ant the distrupiter. already did the plugs > i ment the wires ant the distrupiter. already did the plugs replaced the spark plug wires and now the car runs like a bat out of he** checked the computer codes i got 12 21 41 55 > replaced the spark plug wires and now the car runs like a bat out of > he** checked the computer codes i got 12 21 41 55 12: Start of codes 21: Oxygen sensor reading doesn't change 41: Alternator field control circuit open or shorted 55: End of codes The 21 means that the car will run even better (and get much better mileage) when you replace the Oxygen sensor, which is not difficult or expensive to do. The 41 means your battery is either being undercharged or overcharged; better get this fixed pronto or you'll get stranded. DS > > replaced the spark plug wires and now the car runs like a bat out of > > he** checked the computer codes i got 12 21 41 55 [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > DS Thats incorrect info again. The first thing you need to do is fix the charging problem. If it is overcharging or undercharging the sensor values could be incorrect. With the sensor values working on 5 volts and a charging system malfunctioning, this could cause all kinds of problems including rich/lean problems. Daniel, are you having people throw parts at cars again? Thats not like you pal!! Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech > > replaced the spark plug wires and now the car runs like a > bat out of [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > DS i used to have a overheating problem with the car and it used to spray hot coolant all over the alternatior. i think thats what damaged that. > > On Tue, 22 Mar 2005, 94sundance wrote: > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > i used to have a overheating problem with the car and it used to spray > hot coolant all over the alternatior. i think thats what damaged that. Before you throw parts at it make sure the charging system is working correctly "damnnickname1" wrote: > > > > > > > replaced the spark plug wires and now the [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > working > correctly the charging system seems fine ive never had a problem with it. > > Before you throw parts at it make sure the charging system is > > working > > correctly > > the charging system seems fine ive never had a problem with it. No... you've got a code saying that you've got a problem with your charging system. That means it doesn't seem fine at the moment, no matter how little trouble you've had with it up until now. It's time to find out if it's still fine.  SignatureJoseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D. Phone -- (505) 646-1605 Department of Computer Science FAX -- (505) 646-1002 New Mexico State University http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffer > > > Before you throw parts at it make sure the charging > system is [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > It's time > to find out if it's still fine. i just checked the computer agian and it only had a code 21 now and its not running as well as it was. > i just checked the computer agian and it only had a code 21 now and its > not running as well as it was. Oxygen sensor > > 94sundance <DoNotEmail@AutoForumz.com> writes: > > > > Before you throw parts at it make sure the charging [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > i just checked the computer agian and it only had a code 21 now and > its not running as well as it was. Yup, replace the 02 sensor, but if you ever have a charging problem, be it over or undercharging, thats the first thing you need to correct before anything else. > > i ment the wires ant the distrupiter. already did the plugs > > replaced the spark plug wires and now the car runs like a bat out of > he** checked the computer codes i got 12 21 41 55 Thats incorrect info again. The first thing you need to do is fix the charging problem. If it is overcharging or undercharging the sensor values could be incorrect. With the sensor values working on 5 volts and a charging system malfunctioning, this could cause all kinds of problems including rich/lean problems. Daniel, are you having people throw parts at cars again? Thats not like you pal!! Glenn Beasley Chrysler Tech |
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